New TVR spec

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WolfyJones

Original Poster:

945 posts

131 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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What would you like?

Me,


Price around 80k
Ltd edition modern hardcore track version of a Sagaris
Bespoke TVR speed six engine (420/450 Bhp) (380/400 lbft)
Better protected chassis
Lightweight, max 1100 kg
Proper welded cage
6 pot brakes
Adjustable dampers
Bigger rubber
Mech LSD

That would have me putting down a deposit smile

NailedOn

3,114 posts

234 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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Plus a five year warranty underwritten by a major bank.
Plus three years servicing for £99.

I had TVRs for 12 years and what saddens me is that even their last technology is now so outdated. The V8 generation of superb cars are now practically vintage and anything with an SP6 in it is just a hole in the ground to throw money at.
If we look at the F-type and BMW i8 we are looking at the technology of today and tomorrow. TVR is yesterday. A genteel world of MGBs and XKRs.

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

209 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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WolfyJones said:
What would you like?

Me,


Price around 80k
Ltd edition modern hardcore track version of a Sagaris
Bespoke TVR speed six engine (420/450 Bhp) (380/400 lbft)
Better protected chassis
Lightweight, max 1100 kg
Proper welded cage
6 pot brakes
Adjustable dampers
Bigger rubber
Mech LSD

That would have me putting down a deposit smile
Move on.

Price around 80k yes
Ltd edition modern hardcore track version of a Sagaris New Design, leave the Sag where it is things have moved on.
Bespoke TVR speed six engine (420/450 Bhp) (380/400 lbft) Reliable, cheaper, more powerful engine
Better protected chassis yes
Lightweight, max 1100 kg yes
Proper welded cage New, modern chassis design.
6 pot brakes yes
Adjustable dampers yes
Bigger rubber Maybe, modern tyre tech has moved on
Mech LSD yes

alphaone

1,019 posts

172 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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At 80K I wouldnt be getting one weeping

I agree it is time to move on, forget the speed 6, tubular chassis and fiberglass.

BuzzBillsberry

1,306 posts

230 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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Not this again....

WolfyJones

Original Poster:

945 posts

131 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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V8 GRF said:
Move on.

Price around 80k yes
Ltd edition modern hardcore track version of a Sagaris New Design, leave the Sag where it is things have moved on.
Bespoke TVR speed six engine (420/450 Bhp) (380/400 lbft) Reliable, cheaper, more powerful engine
Better protected chassis yes
Lightweight, max 1100 kg yes
Proper welded cage New, modern chassis design.
6 pot brakes yes
Adjustable dampers yes
Bigger rubber Maybe, modern tyre tech has moved on
Mech LSD yes
What kind of chassis design?

m4tti

5,426 posts

154 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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WolfyJones said:
What would you like?

Me,


Price around 80k
Ltd edition modern hardcore track version of a Sagaris
Bespoke TVR speed six engine (420/450 Bhp) (380/400 lbft)
Better protected chassis
Lightweight, max 1100 kg
Proper welded cage
6 pot brakes
Adjustable dampers
Bigger rubber
Mech LSD

That would have me putting down a deposit smile
You've just described this.

http://www.radicalsportscars.com/uk/rxc/

Tvr won't build anything that will touch it.

WolfyJones

Original Poster:

945 posts

131 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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m4tti said:
You've just described this.

http://www.radicalsportscars.com/uk/rxc/

Tvr won't build anything that will touch it.
Apart from the fact it's got a body only it's mother would love, crate engine and I wouldn't fancy driving it on the road.

macdeb

8,492 posts

254 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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Forget S6, it sank TVR.
Mud sticks.

DJR 7

1,413 posts

256 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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macdeb said:
Forget S6, it sank TVR.
Mud sticks.
I can't disagree with this statement but in defence of the speed 6 I've had mine rebuilt to the spec that TVR should have followed and what a wonderful engine it is.

D

natben

2,743 posts

230 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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The Speed Six did not sink TVR that is a far to simplistic point of view. Many, many things were wrong with TVR in it's final years the poor quality SP6 engines didn't help but not the cause completely.
and as DJC has said a rebuilt SP6 by Power or Str8six is a hell of an engine.

macdeb

8,492 posts

254 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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^^^^ Absolutely agree with the great work Dom and the like have done to it since, some fantastic developments that should have been done by the factory in the first instance. But it's reputation stays with it and even many existing TVR owners would still not have one.

Edited by macdeb on Monday 28th July 08:21


Edited by macdeb on Monday 28th July 08:21

WolfyJones

Original Poster:

945 posts

131 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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BuzzBillsberry said:
Not this again....
Turning into another engine bashing debate unfortunately,

I was more interested in what type of new TVR other TVR owners wanted,

2/4 seats, convertible, muscle car, cruiser, hardtop, track car, race car, sturdy heavier, lightweight, tc, abs, V8, S6, V6, turbo, electric, etc


smile


WolfyJones

Original Poster:

945 posts

131 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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macdeb said:
^^^^ Absolutely agree with the great work Dom and the like have done to it since, some fantastic developments that should have been done by the factory in the first instance. But it's reputation stays with it and even many existing TVR owners would still not have one.

]
Talking of engines again wink
I disagree, the engines being built now by the independents are unique and a definite selling point,

Nice 4 litre doing the business,

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


V8 GRF

7,294 posts

209 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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WolfyJones said:
What kind of chassis design?
Bonded composites, extrusions, alloy panels etc

Similar theory to the Morgan Aero chassis.


GT6k

856 posts

161 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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I think you will find it already exists, try searching for a TVR spelt N.O.B.L.E

m4tti

5,426 posts

154 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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V8 GRF said:
Bonded composites, extrusions, alloy panels etc

Similar theory to the Morgan Aero chassis.

That looks horrific.. Like the foundations to a boat.. looks like they've taken the wood concept and just glued metal together instead.

It needs to be more like this


Don1

15,936 posts

207 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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That's a pic of a hypercar costing £100,000. Not really the price bracket.... wink

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

209 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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Don1 said:
That's a pic of a hypercar costing £100,000. Not really the price bracket.... wink
Exactly. I gave the Morgan chassis as an example of what I meant, not an example of best practice.

That said, so you think a pile of scaffolding tubes welded together looks better?

ETA interestingly I just checked and the base price of an Agera is now $1.3million so even further out of the price range! That tub alone probably costs £100k



Edited by V8 GRF on Monday 28th July 12:18

900T-R

20,404 posts

256 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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NailedOn said:
If we look at the F-type and BMW i8 we are looking at the technology of today and tomorrow. TVR is yesterday. A genteel world of MGBs and XKRs.
You're missing the point by a country mile. We're so bored of overweight, over-teched, overhyped cars that are very efficient at going around a certain mountain road in the Eifel but mainly because every single input of the driver is being doctored and meddled with, as is the feedback (in case of the latest 911 - what feedback?) to the driver. The F-Type superficially does a nice impression of good old extrovert TVR but it's a 1.7 ton slushbox auto FFS!

The 'purist' alternative on the current market is just as unattractive - stripped-out track specials that look like they are designed by a 12 year old boy, have no interior to speak of and dynamically are best left on the track.

That leaves Morgans (a bit quaint and drafty/claustrophobic with the hood up), and 'reimagined' old Porsches and E-types that cost 4x what a new TVR would cost, and have all the basic '60s compromises as a starting point as genuine alternatives...