Right or wrong / Good or Bad at Neil Garner Open Day
Discussion
V8 GRF said:
This wasn't an official sanctioned TVRCC event, it was an event organised and hosted by a separate commercial entity namely Neil Garner themselves
It was heavily supported by the local TVRCC region but as it was NOT a TVRCC organised event as the event's organisation didn't fall under any of the auspices of the TVRCC.
It might have been subtle but the official TVRCC logo was not used in the piece promoting the event so there is no need to place any comment with regard to the event's organisation on the TVRCC private forum, diect them to Neil Garner.
Well forgive me for being misled by the way the event was described in the Events section on the TVRCC site - I believe the words were something like "This is the event season closer and will ensure the TVR event season goes out with a bang."It was heavily supported by the local TVRCC region but as it was NOT a TVRCC organised event as the event's organisation didn't fall under any of the auspices of the TVRCC.
It might have been subtle but the official TVRCC logo was not used in the piece promoting the event so there is no need to place any comment with regard to the event's organisation on the TVRCC private forum, diect them to Neil Garner.
Here on PH in the events section the first two sentences of the "Wiltshire TVRCC/Neil Garner Open Day 27/09/14" thread are:
"TVRCC Wiltshire/Neil Garner Open Day The third annual TVRCC Wiltshire Region/Neil Garner Open Day takes place this year on Saturday 27th September. This event is the largest TVRCC event specifically aimed at members who like to wander around and browse the myriad of stalls provided by traders who are specialists in the field of TVR’s."
The words "largest TVRCC event" are fairly unambiguous.
Oh, and while we're at it I would direct you to the Future Events section on page 19, September 2014 issue of Sprint - the same words appear "This event is the largest TVRCC event ...."
If it walks like a Duck .......
V8 GRF said:
The appropriate words are TVRCC Wiltshire. I will agree with what you say about the wording but regardless of that it wasn't a central TVRCC organised event and more importantly not an official event as there wasn't an event form lodged with the TVRCC office.
The club is often accused of hijacking events when they are in fact TVRCC events but this is most definitely a Neil Garner event with support from the local region.
Anyway all irrelevant as it's obviously a great local event and as suggested before all suggestions as to it's form next year should be sent to Neil Garner.
The club is often accused of hijacking events when they are in fact TVRCC events but this is most definitely a Neil Garner event with support from the local region.
Anyway all irrelevant as it's obviously a great local event and as suggested before all suggestions as to it's form next year should be sent to Neil Garner.
marz92 said:
In order to learn and improve always for the following year, as one of the co organisers...
I remember why I stay off TVRCC forums now...Do we have to get all parochial now Local event for local people, you're not from around here are you...
Yes it benefits Neil Garner with publicity but he works hard to provide the site and other input. For those extra miles he goes for the TVR owners whose vehicle he works on I'm glad to help. Just don't all book your cars in when I need work done please.
Yes it benefits the other traders who turn up, most of which have come some distance and I thank them for that.
Yes the organisers work bloody hard, not just on the day but for weeks before - thanks.
Believe it or not it benefits the TVRCC as I pointed at least 4 people to the stand who wanted to join that day and suggested to others they join.
Yes it's a bloody good day out to meet similar minded people and put faces to names from the forum.
Win/Win all around
Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 30th September 16:12
V8 GRF said:
I will agree with what you say about the wording but regardless of that it wasn't a central TVRCC organised event and more importantly not an official event as there wasn't an event form lodged with the TVRCC office.
Don't I feel the fool, it clearly was not a TVRCC event as there was no "event form lodged with the TVRCC office".Do you realise, that's one of the most ridiculous statements you have ever made.
Whether you like it or not, it was in the Future Events section of the Club's website and magazine with the words "TVRCC event" - club members are rightly going to assume therefore that it is a TVRCC Event!!
sgrimshaw said:
Don't I feel the fool, it clearly was not a TVRCC event as there was no "event form lodged with the TVRCC office".
Do you realise, that's one of the most ridiculous statements you have ever made.
Whether you like it or not, it was in the Future Events section of the Club's website and magazine with the words "TVRCC event" - club members are rightly going to assume therefore that it is a TVRCC Event!!
No it's not a ridiculous statement. That's the reason it wasn't an official event as it wasn't officially adopted. No you wouldn't know the detail and I'm not suggesting you should so likewise no embarrassment anywhere.Do you realise, that's one of the most ridiculous statements you have ever made.
Whether you like it or not, it was in the Future Events section of the Club's website and magazine with the words "TVRCC event" - club members are rightly going to assume therefore that it is a TVRCC Event!!
When this was discussed at a committee meeting and it was stated that there was no 'official' involvement I suggested that it would cause confusion especially after the piece that we'd run in Sprint. I was just putting the facts out here, as always as the messenger I'm the one who gets shot.... :/
As above:
OK Post edited as apparently I was talking out of my 'b
e. Not the first time and probably not the last . 
I have been informed that it t was indeed an official TVRCC event and the 'form' was signed and returned to the office so 'mea-culpa' on that one.
It was discussed at the July committee meeting and post that meeting it was subsequently adopted as a TVRCC event but as events isn't my area I was out of the loop on that one.
So I apologise for any confusion caused, I'd still suggest any comments are posted here rather than the TVRCC forum as that's open to more attendees.
Edited by V8 GRF on Tuesday 30th September 17:57
Byker28i said:
I remember why I stay off TVRCC forums now...
Do we have to get all parochial now Local event for local people, you're not from around here are you...
Yes it benefits Neil Garner with publicity but he works hard to provide the site and other input. For those extra miles he goes for the TVR owners whose vehicle he works on I'm glad to help. Just don't all book your cars in when I need work done please.
Yes it benefits the other traders who turn up, most of which have come some distance and I thank them for that.
Yes the organisers work bloody hard, not just on the day but for weeks before - thanks.
Believe it or not it benefits the TVRCC as I pointed at least 4 people to the stand who wanted to join that day and suggested to others they join.
Yes it's a bloody good day out to meet similar minded people and put faces to names from the forum.
Win/Win all around
Top man! Couldn't of worded it better my self!!Do we have to get all parochial now Local event for local people, you're not from around here are you...
Yes it benefits Neil Garner with publicity but he works hard to provide the site and other input. For those extra miles he goes for the TVR owners whose vehicle he works on I'm glad to help. Just don't all book your cars in when I need work done please.
Yes it benefits the other traders who turn up, most of which have come some distance and I thank them for that.
Yes the organisers work bloody hard, not just on the day but for weeks before - thanks.
Believe it or not it benefits the TVRCC as I pointed at least 4 people to the stand who wanted to join that day and suggested to others they join.
Yes it's a bloody good day out to meet similar minded people and put faces to names from the forum.
Win/Win all around
Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 30th September 16:12
Back on topic;
GOOD = decent turnout, 'some' interesting cars, catch up with friends, excuse for a drive, bagged a prize!
BAD = Parking details given out were incorrect and frankly disappointing, lack of interesting cars that didn't show, some traders I was hoping to see didn't show.
Overall, will go again and appreciate volunteers time.
GOOD = decent turnout, 'some' interesting cars, catch up with friends, excuse for a drive, bagged a prize!
BAD = Parking details given out were incorrect and frankly disappointing, lack of interesting cars that didn't show, some traders I was hoping to see didn't show.
Overall, will go again and appreciate volunteers time.
Edited by macdeb on Wednesday 1st October 07:47
macdeb said:
Girls, girls, put your handbags away. I can't fail to be amazed by the 'you said this' and 'who said what' that appears.
One BIG point that is missed is the fact that if your Pro-PH or pro-TVRCC [ I'm both, does that make me 'bi'? ] there is one common interest, and that is keeping TVR's on the road which for me is what it's about.
It's this sort of bickering that loses PH it's wealth of knowledge and free help/advice and many well respected people no longer post here because of the pointless bickering. I don't blame them and it's our loss.
Back on topic;
GOOD = decent turnout, 'some' interesting cars, catch up with friends, excuse for a drive, bagged a prize!
BAD = Parking details given out were incorrect and frankly disappointing, lack of interesting cars that didn't show, some traders I was hoping to see didn't show.
Overall, will go again and appreciate volunteers time.
BAD - We would like to know more about the BAD parking details = perhaps you would like to email me and I will pass it on. Remember, there is only so much space we have on the day. One BIG point that is missed is the fact that if your Pro-PH or pro-TVRCC [ I'm both, does that make me 'bi'? ] there is one common interest, and that is keeping TVR's on the road which for me is what it's about.
It's this sort of bickering that loses PH it's wealth of knowledge and free help/advice and many well respected people no longer post here because of the pointless bickering. I don't blame them and it's our loss.
Back on topic;
GOOD = decent turnout, 'some' interesting cars, catch up with friends, excuse for a drive, bagged a prize!
BAD = Parking details given out were incorrect and frankly disappointing, lack of interesting cars that didn't show, some traders I was hoping to see didn't show.
Overall, will go again and appreciate volunteers time.
Interesting cars..... Yeah we welcome more. However, Again we only have a certain amount of room during the peak hours - and if we invite more cars and they can't park - rightly so they would not be happy coming from a great distance - mainly that is why we have kept it a TVR event as much as we welcome unusual and interesting cars on the day - For example the Hot Rod which turned up totally unannounced and was after all a great crowd puller, especially on the rolling road, (perhaps something to think about in the future) . As said, before the most disappointing thing for me as organising the traders, were the traders who promised that they would come and either didn't communicate towards the date or simply just didn't turn up when we had them booked in. In this modern technical world, it would of been nice for a phone call or an email to simply let us know.
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