Gearbox dead - where from here ?
Discussion
I've had my 4.0L engine upgraded to 5.0L using the V8D package which has been running very nicely, but it looks like my gearbox has let go. It's a V8S so has the same LT77 as the early Chimearas and Griffiths ( I think). It makes a horrible grinding noise in all gears, related to road speed. I assume the extra torque has been too much for it.
What are my options from here ? Should a rebuilt standard LT77 be OK or should I be upgrading something in the gearbox or even switching to another gearbox ? Any suggestions who could do this ?
Thanks
Note - I've posted in general rather than S Series as I believe some of the options may come from the Chim/Griff
What are my options from here ? Should a rebuilt standard LT77 be OK or should I be upgrading something in the gearbox or even switching to another gearbox ? Any suggestions who could do this ?
Thanks
Note - I've posted in general rather than S Series as I believe some of the options may come from the Chim/Griff
I would have thought a recon LT77 will be fine.
These things were built to move a large Range Rover around and occasionally up steep inclines, with loads of torque, so unless you are spanking the car around permanently I would think another LT77 should be fine. The only reason TVR moved to the T5 was that Rover stopped producing the LT77.
These things were built to move a large Range Rover around and occasionally up steep inclines, with loads of torque, so unless you are spanking the car around permanently I would think another LT77 should be fine. The only reason TVR moved to the T5 was that Rover stopped producing the LT77.
Oldred_V8S said:
I would have thought a recon LT77 will be fine.
These things were built to move a large Range Rover around and occasionally up steep inclines, with loads of torque, so unless you are spanking the car around permanently I would think another LT77 should be fine. The only reason TVR moved to the T5 was that Rover stopped producing the LT77.
+1 - the LT77 was fitted to the early 430 Chims, which produce not far short of 500 power/torque, so should be well capable of handling the power of your V8D lump.These things were built to move a large Range Rover around and occasionally up steep inclines, with loads of torque, so unless you are spanking the car around permanently I would think another LT77 should be fine. The only reason TVR moved to the T5 was that Rover stopped producing the LT77.
Nice, aren't they? The V8D lump, I mean.
Thanks. I was planning to do a lot more track days next year so it will be in for quite a bit of spanking. In fact it was a bit of spankage this year that caused the issues with this gearbox. Is there a weak point in the box that could be improved while it is being refurbished ? Any recommendations for specialists ?
You will need advice as to whether it will fit etc, but this may be the sort of thing you need?
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QBee said:
+1 - the LT77 was fitted to the early 430 Chims, which produce not far short of 500 power/torque, so should be well capable of handling the power of your V8D lump.
Nice, aren't they? The V8D lump, I mean.
It was a real pain getting it running with the megasquirt but very nice now. Checking the dyno plot, it says 314/328 peak bhp/torque so that's well below those 430 Chims you mention although 500bhp sounds a lot from a 4.3L, no ?Nice, aren't they? The V8D lump, I mean.
From this thread : http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=125...
"The LT 77 was last used in 1994 and has a Suffix H - this is a bullet proof box capable of running 300 Hp and 280 Ft Lbs. It has widened gears, larger diameter layshaft and has a dual syncro on 1st & 2nd. The oil pump was also increased in width. The H was also known as the LT77S.
Go search for the lettering of at least G but preferably H on the box."
My engine exceeds this spec ??
I'm looking to get mine done next year and have been recommended these guys
http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk
http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk
gifdy said:
It was a real pain getting it running with the megasquirt but very nice now. Checking the dyno plot, it says 314/328 peak bhp/torque so that's well below those 430 Chims you mention although 500bhp sounds a lot from a 4.3L, no ?
I think he meant Griff / Chim 500 ie 5 the litre V8 engine - TVR 'stated' 340 Bhp from memory so yours sound healthy!peteA said:
gifdy said:
It was a real pain getting it running with the megasquirt but very nice now. Checking the dyno plot, it says 314/328 peak bhp/torque so that's well below those 430 Chims you mention although 500bhp sounds a lot from a 4.3L, no ?
I think he meant Griff / Chim 500 ie 5 the litre V8 engine - TVR 'stated' 340 Bhp from memory so yours sound healthy!brett84 said:
I'm looking to get mine done next year and have been recommended these guys
http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk
Thanks - from their website they look like they know what they're talking about. I'll give them a ringhttp://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk
gifdy said:
QBee said:
+1 - the LT77 was fitted to the early 430 Chims, which produce not far short of 500 power/torque, so should be well capable of handling the power of your V8D lump.
Nice, aren't they? The V8D lump, I mean.
It was a real pain getting it running with the megasquirt but very nice now. Checking the dyno plot, it says 314/328 peak bhp/torque so that's well below those 430 Chims you mention although 500bhp sounds a lot from a 4.3L, no ?Nice, aren't they? The V8D lump, I mean.
Edited by QBee on Thursday 2nd October 20:41
Noise as described doesn't hold much hope, however....try diff lock gear box oil. I had a LT77 gearbox and on my first track day with the car, the synchro's crunched badly once the oil got hot. Changed to diff lock oil and much better gear change and a quieter gearbox!
http://www.difflock.com/evolution1
http://www.difflock.com/evolution1
gifdy said:
It makes a horrible grinding noise in all gears
I'm guessing 5th is an overdrive gear in the LT77 so "normally" things should be a bit quieter in 4th because the drive goes straight through, lot less load on the bearings/gears?Have you tried draining the oil to see if it looks "very metallic" or maybe a tooth or two will fall out (some gearbox's have a built in magnet to hold metal particles)?
phillpot said:
gifdy said:
It makes a horrible grinding noise in all gears
I'm guessing 5th is an overdrive gear in the LT77 so "normally" things should be a bit quieter in 4th because the drive goes straight through, lot less load on the bearings/gears?Have you tried draining the oil to see if it looks "very metallic" or maybe a tooth or two will fall out (some gearbox's have a built in magnet to hold metal particles)?
Thanks for advice so far.
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