New TVR Parts launched...
Discussion
chris watton said:
Too me, it seems like Powers Performance have been shunned by the 'new order' - I don't understand this, as I would have thought that they have been more responsible than any other outfit for keeping TVR's on the road and improving the performance, both for the RV8's and S6's.
I think it's more than shunned .... The new TVR owner has already claimed the TVR Power name, next it will be the use of the name "TVR" and then negotiatated "sole" supply contacts with suppliers for TVR parts . They state on their website that new contacts are under negotiation.A Powers Performance rebuild were one of the reasons I was confident to buy an S6 engined car.
The fact that the TVR brand has any kind of positive connotation today has a lot to do with a small group of suppliers like TVR Power who comprehensively fixed the S6 engine sufficient to offer a 100k mile warranty. Not to mention their support of the RV8.
I wish TVR nothing but the best but I hope they acknowledge the part others have played in giving TVR any kind of positive image it has today.
The fact that the TVR brand has any kind of positive connotation today has a lot to do with a small group of suppliers like TVR Power who comprehensively fixed the S6 engine sufficient to offer a 100k mile warranty. Not to mention their support of the RV8.
I wish TVR nothing but the best but I hope they acknowledge the part others have played in giving TVR any kind of positive image it has today.
swisstoni said:
A Powers Performance rebuild were one of the reasons I was confident to buy an S6 engined car.
The fact that the TVR brand has any kind of positive connotation today has a lot to do with a small group of suppliers like TVR Power who comprehensively fixed the S6 engine sufficient to offer a 100k mile warranty. Not to mention their support of the RV8.
I wish TVR nothing but the best but I hope they acknowledge the part others have played in giving TVR any kind of positive image it has today.
They were also the reason why I bought my second Tamora, after being out of the loop for a few years, I did some research regarding parts supply and possible upgrades. It seemed better to buy now, because of what can be done to the S6 and the support offered, than back when TVR were still in business!The fact that the TVR brand has any kind of positive connotation today has a lot to do with a small group of suppliers like TVR Power who comprehensively fixed the S6 engine sufficient to offer a 100k mile warranty. Not to mention their support of the RV8.
I wish TVR nothing but the best but I hope they acknowledge the part others have played in giving TVR any kind of positive image it has today.
I have spoken to Dom quite a few times about the new TVR and Les Edgar did speak to Dom and as I understand it Dom is happy carrying on the way he is and that is the short version, I would be more than happy to carry on using Dom as his reputation is now second to none and not being a TVRCC member I can now get a discount from him which is impossible but not now so a good bit of competition is good as "Powers Performance" have stated, looking forward to new TVR though
Time will tell as ever.
Dom rebuilt the engine in my 450 SE in the early '90's and in the Cerb in '12, both great jobs. I would certainly use him again for any engine rebuild work.
I have used Power, Racetech, Clever Trevor, ACT, Leven, RG and I'm sure several others for parts over the years and I sincerely hope they all find a place in the new order.
But I'm also really pleased that the new TVR management seem to be making moves to protect their loyal customer base by ensuring parts supply before announcing new models. That is exactly the way to underpin any resurrected business in any domain. I wish them well and will be along for a test drive when a new model is ready!
Dom rebuilt the engine in my 450 SE in the early '90's and in the Cerb in '12, both great jobs. I would certainly use him again for any engine rebuild work.
I have used Power, Racetech, Clever Trevor, ACT, Leven, RG and I'm sure several others for parts over the years and I sincerely hope they all find a place in the new order.
But I'm also really pleased that the new TVR management seem to be making moves to protect their loyal customer base by ensuring parts supply before announcing new models. That is exactly the way to underpin any resurrected business in any domain. I wish them well and will be along for a test drive when a new model is ready!
ThePrisoner said:
Good Grief, new born TVR are damned if they Don't and damned if they do. Words fail me. 
No one likes uncertainty and change generates uncertainty. Let the dust settle first but TBH when I saw the e-mail with the RG address on it it sounds like just a re-branding attempt. Maybe the problem is communication as it seems the people with an opportunity to talk to those involved are more positive.Not really sure what all the fuss is about. Its a business decision, its not a case of "who was everyones favorite engine builder", or "hes always nice to me when I phone".
The effective owner or chairman of Racing Green has a track record of starting, and developing medium scale enterprises with a value in excess of 15 million. The managing director is a qualified engineer with strong ties to wider automotive parts suppliers, who has resourced or developed solutions to maintain the existing models. In addition to this RG had a very strong global web presence on the parts side.
If you were resurrecting a brand and wanted to ensure that you have a decent supply chain in place for your existing model portfolio and upcoming models ,and that going forward, the supply of both the global trade and private individual alike is met, this is a no brainer in the current TVR market as it stands. No other participant in the TVR market has these attributes to bring you this level of confidence, expertise and fast entry into the market place. Thats business...
The effective owner or chairman of Racing Green has a track record of starting, and developing medium scale enterprises with a value in excess of 15 million. The managing director is a qualified engineer with strong ties to wider automotive parts suppliers, who has resourced or developed solutions to maintain the existing models. In addition to this RG had a very strong global web presence on the parts side.
If you were resurrecting a brand and wanted to ensure that you have a decent supply chain in place for your existing model portfolio and upcoming models ,and that going forward, the supply of both the global trade and private individual alike is met, this is a no brainer in the current TVR market as it stands. No other participant in the TVR market has these attributes to bring you this level of confidence, expertise and fast entry into the market place. Thats business...
Edited by m4tti on Friday 21st November 14:32
swisstoni said:
Don't think anyone is making a "fuss".
I think theres plenty of fuss on here...glow worm said:
I think it's more than shunned .... The new TVR owner has already claimed the TVR Power name, next it will be the use of the name "TVR" and then negotiatated "sole" supply contacts with suppliers for TVR parts . They state on their website that new contacts are under negotiation.
m4tti said:
swisstoni said:
Don't think anyone is making a "fuss".
I think theres plenty of fuss on here...glow worm said:
I think it's more than shunned .... The new TVR owner has already claimed the TVR Power name, next it will be the use of the name "TVR" and then negotiatated "sole" supply contacts with suppliers for TVR parts . They state on their website that new contacts are under negotiation.
Of course I'm concerned..
2004 bought first TVR (Chim 400) from HL Gorner,2006 ordered new Tuscan Convertible (£50k) from HL Gorner..March'06 HL Gorner go into Administration.
Tuscan becomes "Factory car", then supplied by Cicely Continental Apr'2006 5 year warranty.
Jan'07 TVR in Administation, June '07 Ciclely Continental cease to trade.
Since 2007, I've had the two best TVR mechanics in the UK look after my cars(X-Works),supplied by Dom and Multipart. I've had the best body shop (Surface and Design),the best trimmer (Trim Technican) and best engine developer (Power Performance) look after my cars.
I've got circa £140K invested in my TVRs and the service I've received in the last 7 years is far far better and far far cheaper than the £82/hour TVR dealer fixed rate before the factory closure.
I'm more than happy for thing to continue as they are now .
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Also had good service from Leven,PPC,ACT,SC Power,Clever Trevor,D&C Trim and Racing Green. (don't want to miss anyone out )
2004 bought first TVR (Chim 400) from HL Gorner,2006 ordered new Tuscan Convertible (£50k) from HL Gorner..March'06 HL Gorner go into Administration.
Tuscan becomes "Factory car", then supplied by Cicely Continental Apr'2006 5 year warranty.
Jan'07 TVR in Administation, June '07 Ciclely Continental cease to trade.
Since 2007, I've had the two best TVR mechanics in the UK look after my cars(X-Works),supplied by Dom and Multipart. I've had the best body shop (Surface and Design),the best trimmer (Trim Technican) and best engine developer (Power Performance) look after my cars.
I've got circa £140K invested in my TVRs and the service I've received in the last 7 years is far far better and far far cheaper than the £82/hour TVR dealer fixed rate before the factory closure.
I'm more than happy for thing to continue as they are now .
.Also had good service from Leven,PPC,ACT,SC Power,Clever Trevor,D&C Trim and Racing Green. (don't want to miss anyone out )
Edited by glow worm on Friday 21st November 17:55
It's a very good bit of news in several fronts.
Firstly, the new owners of the TVR brand have brought the most significant TVR parts suppliers together by merging their assets with Multipart and RG. This shows clear intent to underpin the values of older cars via the much needed centralised parts network.
Having TVR parts split amongst several entities does not benefit us through competition because the client market is so small. None of the entities can achieve any economies of scale to pass on. Putting them all together will allow for items like clutches, windscreens, brakes, radiators, etc to all sit on shelves in the UK and at sensible prices.
At the same time, it creates an efficient outlet for 'sanctioned' partners. If an entity designs and builds a TVR part they just have to go to one group for the deal than the current farce of getting involved in a retarded catfight that has blighted the brand for too many years.
So as well as underpinning the market it is going to vastly improve parts range, efficiency and quality.
It shows that the owners seem to have a grasp on what needs to be done and I think their oversight will, over the next 24 months, deliver a significant improvement to an issue that was seeing more and more of our cars having to be fitted with s
tty quality parts as the money wasn't there to invest in getting the proper firms to make them or bodge repaired/recon parts.
Their target has to be to reach the point that you can arrive at Heritage Parts and leave with everything needed to build a new Chimp/Griff etc.
Finally, one suspects that a further catalyst to doing this is probably to try and use existing parts for the new car where logical to keep costs down.
Firstly, the new owners of the TVR brand have brought the most significant TVR parts suppliers together by merging their assets with Multipart and RG. This shows clear intent to underpin the values of older cars via the much needed centralised parts network.
Having TVR parts split amongst several entities does not benefit us through competition because the client market is so small. None of the entities can achieve any economies of scale to pass on. Putting them all together will allow for items like clutches, windscreens, brakes, radiators, etc to all sit on shelves in the UK and at sensible prices.
At the same time, it creates an efficient outlet for 'sanctioned' partners. If an entity designs and builds a TVR part they just have to go to one group for the deal than the current farce of getting involved in a retarded catfight that has blighted the brand for too many years.
So as well as underpinning the market it is going to vastly improve parts range, efficiency and quality.
It shows that the owners seem to have a grasp on what needs to be done and I think their oversight will, over the next 24 months, deliver a significant improvement to an issue that was seeing more and more of our cars having to be fitted with s
tty quality parts as the money wasn't there to invest in getting the proper firms to make them or bodge repaired/recon parts. Their target has to be to reach the point that you can arrive at Heritage Parts and leave with everything needed to build a new Chimp/Griff etc.
Finally, one suspects that a further catalyst to doing this is probably to try and use existing parts for the new car where logical to keep costs down.
Lots of interesting thoughts and opinions in this thread. The good news is that the TVR name is being brought back to life under new ownership and they have gone and put together a supply chain for the "Heritage" cars as part of the start up process. To me this acknowledges the need to keep the current owners "on side" as part of their business model. How they license the TVR name going forward is down to them and we should allow the business to role this out and evolve before we make any judgements.
I will be keeping an eye on the process and who is able to use the TVR name as clearly the new owners want the right people involved with them to cover existing models and the new ones they are planning. However, regardless of being able to use the TVR name in their business profile my car will always be going up to see Dom and his brilliant team. I trust them and their work and Dom has total faith in his products based on 25+ years of knowledge and development.
The bad news.............I can't see any to be honest. The new owners appear to be covering all bases for "Heritage" cars and their proposed new models. Existing specialists will continue to offer their great service and knowledge, albeit possibly not with the TVR logo in their business signage.
I will be keeping an eye on the process and who is able to use the TVR name as clearly the new owners want the right people involved with them to cover existing models and the new ones they are planning. However, regardless of being able to use the TVR name in their business profile my car will always be going up to see Dom and his brilliant team. I trust them and their work and Dom has total faith in his products based on 25+ years of knowledge and development.
The bad news.............I can't see any to be honest. The new owners appear to be covering all bases for "Heritage" cars and their proposed new models. Existing specialists will continue to offer their great service and knowledge, albeit possibly not with the TVR logo in their business signage.
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