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paul1962 said:
TOV!E, I asked a similar question about a company I was thinking of using (not car related) and got a few public replies and considerably more PMs telling me to avoid them.
Since then, whenever a question like this appears, I always wonder what replies the op gets.
Fair point Mr Arnold, no one has an 100% record within this industry as TVR's have a mind of their own sometimesSince then, whenever a question like this appears, I always wonder what replies the op gets.
Hi Tony
Don't forget the 12 odd months of HELL that I have also gone through. Will NOT mention the chaps name as I do still respect that he has to earn a living and there are always two sides to every story!!!!!!!!
Not so in this case, but anyway. Feel free to email me fella and I can pass on a few points for you if required. My website on the story of my F1 SAG is still not complete as yet, may be able to finish it one day, which I am sure will be of huge interest to all TVR owners. S & D seem to have very happy customers and I have spoken to the guys in detail and i believe this will probably be my next call to sort out my SAG!!!!!!
Good luck either way fella.
Don't forget the 12 odd months of HELL that I have also gone through. Will NOT mention the chaps name as I do still respect that he has to earn a living and there are always two sides to every story!!!!!!!!
Not so in this case, but anyway. Feel free to email me fella and I can pass on a few points for you if required. My website on the story of my F1 SAG is still not complete as yet, may be able to finish it one day, which I am sure will be of huge interest to all TVR owners. S & D seem to have very happy customers and I have spoken to the guys in detail and i believe this will probably be my next call to sort out my SAG!!!!!!
Good luck either way fella.
V8 GRF said:
DJR 7 said:
Ironically negative remarks are often removed by the moderators.
Some that know me will know that my car was painted by Surface & Design ...... I'm not raving about them!!
They didn't do the bulk of the fibreglass it was painted on though did they....?Some that know me will know that my car was painted by Surface & Design ...... I'm not raving about them!!
And your point is?
DJR 7 said:
V8 GRF said:
DJR 7 said:
Ironically negative remarks are often removed by the moderators.
Some that know me will know that my car was painted by Surface & Design ...... I'm not raving about them!!
They didn't do the bulk of the fibreglass it was painted on though did they....?Some that know me will know that my car was painted by Surface & Design ...... I'm not raving about them!!
And your point is?
that is incredibly over priced unless a insurance jobOverpriced compared to what though? A standard respray or accident repair?
12k is 10k plus vat, so they get 10k. Materials costs say 4-5k? (fillers, stoppers, solvents, primers, discs, filters, topcoats, polishes, masks etc etc) so they get max 6k. Presumably they have a decent sized workshop and large running costs for ovens and compressors working .. my big workshop was 1k a week to run all in (rent, electric, insurance, rates, telephone, etc etc). Presumably they want some wages too .. so if they turn the job around in 4 weeks they break even with 250/wk wages for each of them. Hardly seems expensive to me. sound about right?
12k is 10k plus vat, so they get 10k. Materials costs say 4-5k? (fillers, stoppers, solvents, primers, discs, filters, topcoats, polishes, masks etc etc) so they get max 6k. Presumably they have a decent sized workshop and large running costs for ovens and compressors working .. my big workshop was 1k a week to run all in (rent, electric, insurance, rates, telephone, etc etc). Presumably they want some wages too .. so if they turn the job around in 4 weeks they break even with 250/wk wages for each of them. Hardly seems expensive to me. sound about right?
scotty_d said:
DJR 7 said:
V8 GRF said:
DJR 7 said:
Ironically negative remarks are often removed by the moderators.
Some that know me will know that my car was painted by Surface & Design ...... I'm not raving about them!!
They didn't do the bulk of the fibreglass it was painted on though did they....?Some that know me will know that my car was painted by Surface & Design ...... I'm not raving about them!!
And your point is?
that is incredibly over priced unless a insurance jobDJR7, have you told them about your disappointment?
Even if the materials are half what i've said (i doubt it ..) it still doesn't sound expensive to me.
I must e foolish then .. I'm about to have the bodywork on my Stag refurbished and I'm fully expecting that to cost 10k. I had a conversation with a garage that had done a car in slightly worse condition and that was 13k. And fibreglass is worse to work with than steel cars of course. I think the generally very positive comments about the other work S and D have done , and the many happy customers, suggests they're not in the habit of ripping people off or doing shoddy work ..
edited to add .. this was in repsonse to scottyd's reply which has now disappeared ??
I must e foolish then .. I'm about to have the bodywork on my Stag refurbished and I'm fully expecting that to cost 10k. I had a conversation with a garage that had done a car in slightly worse condition and that was 13k. And fibreglass is worse to work with than steel cars of course. I think the generally very positive comments about the other work S and D have done , and the many happy customers, suggests they're not in the habit of ripping people off or doing shoddy work ..
edited to add .. this was in repsonse to scottyd's reply which has now disappeared ??
Edited by spitfire4v8 on Thursday 4th December 11:51
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