Opinions on surface & design

[clive f]

I went to Blackpool once..........never again, 14 months ago, and have given up on the £250 refund they insisted on giving me, so I told them to donate it to my just giving account for Rally For Heroes, as I didn't want to be labelled as one of these customers that rant and rave just to try it on, that was forgotten as well.

[QBee]

I am reading this and thinking that I live on a different planet.

I was quoted about £3500 for a full Chimaera respray, including all the preparation and polishing. Ok, so no roof to paint, but........where does £12k come from? Solid gold door handles? Flip paint that is sterling silver/24 carat gold?

Anyway, it"s only a track day Chimaera, so I had a full 8-coat Plastidip in flip purple/blue for £750 because it should be more stone chip resistant and I don't need to polish it.. Yay!! More money for horsepower!!

[portzi]

clive f said:

I went to Blackpool once..........never again, 14 months ago, and have given up on the £250 refund they insisted on giving me, so I told them to donate it to my just giving account for Rally For Heroes, as I didn't want to be labelled as one of these customers that rant and rave just to try it on, that was forgotten as well.

Your lucky Clive I was dragged up there, its a dump, luckily I went to work for the Queen when I was 17, never looked back. I am fortunate to work at DMRC Headley Court now.

[DJR 7]

The Surveyor said:

I've seen pictures of DJR7's car and it wasn't a simple prep and respray like most projects, this is a modified Tuscan with a Sagaris front and rear added and jolly nice it looks too. For the work to have been estimated at £12k, there must have been much more prep to do than a normal re-paint, however it's sad to see that he isn't happy with the results as I would have thought that with such a unique project, and for such a cost they should have pulled out all the stops to ensure the result was flawless. If they accepted the project, they should have ensured the fibreglass was 100% before applying any paint, after that they should take 100% responsibility for the finish.

DJR7, have you told them about your disappointment?

The car is currently with S&D , it's the 2nd time it's been returned since it's completion 12 months ago. It's now been with them for almost 3 months. I received a call from them today to say it's now in primer.
I personally found the staff extremely helpful but the management have been difficult to communicate with to say the least.
Fingers crossed they will get it right this time!

[Hoover.]

I've seen paint blisters........ issues with inverted angles, and poor taping up lines....... all on work with the industry TVR goto body shop

I've seen a lot better

[m4tti]

This is why I'm tempted to drop by kds keltec who have history painting composite parts on enzos etc. there must be more than one place In the country that is good at composites.

There are other composite cars out there ferrari, real gt40s,lotus, corvettes

Edited by m4tti on Thursday 4th December 23:22

[sheel]

Looking at DJR7 car I would say he has been very restrained with his comments ref paintwork on here !!!!
Rich

[chris watton]

I think the best thing to do if you're not happy with the work, and to circumnavigate the mods deleting your post, is to simply post pictures of the work without any comment. After all, a picture is worth a thousand angry words, and people can then judge for themselves, leaving little room for doubt.

This is what I did when I was less than happy with some aspects of work that was done on my car (Not S&D, BTW)

[MrChips]

I haven't caught up with Darren since the summer but sorry to hear the car's had to go back again and sound now like its a full strip and repaint.

Ignoring any obvious Cowboys where there is dust in the paint and shut/masking lines are rubbish, or colour matches are poor, I think one of the problems is simply that painting fibreglass has a slight inherent instability so even with decent prep, blisters can come to light after a few months and the difference is that a good bodyshop will take it back and re-do it again.
I had a full respray and whilst there were a couple of blisters that appeared after 2month, they came and picked the car up, and re-painted it without question. Where I wasn't happy with some of the finished bits, they did a snagging list and on the whole just re-did anything I raised.

Whilst I don't agree that it must always be the case, it seems that to get respray done to a high standard does require some patience, and willingness to let a bodyshop try again if it's not quite right.

[TA14]

QBee said:

I am reading this and thinking that I live on a different planet.

I was quoted about £3500 for a full Chimaera respray, including all the preparation and polishing. Ok, so no roof to paint, but........where does £12k come from? Solid gold door handles? Flip paint that is sterling silver/24 carat gold?

Anyway, it"s only a track day Chimaera, so I had a full 8-coat Plastidip in flip purple/blue for £750 because it should be more stone chip resistant and I don't need to polish it.. Yay!! More money for horsepower!!

Good call.

Edited by TA14 on Friday 5th December 15:40

[Byker28i]

QBee said:

I am reading this and thinking that I live on a different planet.

I was quoted about £3500 for a full Chimaera respray, including all the preparation and polishing. Ok, so no roof to paint, but........where does £12k come from? Solid gold door handles? Flip paint that is sterling silver/24 carat gold?

Anyway, it"s only a track day Chimaera, so I had a full 8-coat Plastidip in flip purple/blue for £750 because it should be more stone chip resistant and I don't need to polish it.. Yay!! More money for horsepower!!

Three places have all quoted me in the £5-6k price range to full paint a Cerbera with Rosso pearl. Did you have a simple colour as some of the paints are very expensive. Add to that, to do a proper full job requires some significant strip down

[m4tti]

Zippee said:

Believe me that is what I'll be doing with mine once I've managed to sort the wranglings out with my insurers and the scum that did the work on mine (obviously no names). Trouble with mine is it's a silver car so it hides a multitude of sins that don't photograph very well but I'll get me point across.
With regards to S&D it would appear a mixed bag, the main difference being they do appear to be willing to take a car back to resolve issues. I've also been forwarded a couple of other recommendations (KDS being one) that I'm going to look into.

From another thread.... if you own the car pictured below your not going to p1ss about with it, and hope for the best..


kds keltec said:

It is correct that we paint to , not just detailing.

Only last week we painted a Z4mc , while in for wheels brakes to be refurbed and then lastly all completely detailed.
To add to this the previous Z4mc before the one above was in for wheel refurb / detail and new front discs and pads

And this i guess answer the carbon paint question






kelly

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Edited by m4tti on Friday 5th December 14:57

Edited by m4tti on Friday 5th December 15:38

[stain]

I had a full respray carried out on my Griff by S and D. The car did have to have part of it done again but it looks amazing now. The cost was as quoted on their website for a standard metallic paint.

[chris watton]

stain said:

I had a full respray carried out on my Griff by S and D. The car did have to have part of it done again but it looks amazing now. The cost was as quoted on their website for a standard metallic paint.

I just looked at their website, thinking they'd be molto-expensive, having seen some of the numbers bandied around on here, but a full colour change re-spray for my car (Tamora) is around £3600+paint, so perhaps £4.5k all inclusive (unless you go for a really expensive colour)

How the hell do people get it up to £12k!

[stain]

And I will add that although mine wasn't a colour change, they had to do a heck of a lot of prep work thanks to original TVR body quality. This was evidenced every step of the way with photos and was not charged as extra.

[TV8]

Byker28i said:

Three places have all quoted me in the £5-6k price range to full paint a Cerbera with Rosso pearl. Did you have a simple colour as some of the paints are very expensive. Add to that, to do a proper full job requires some significant strip down

I saw Anthony's car on Tuesday. I thought it had been wrapped on first view, due to the depth of the finish. The colour is a flip, two-tone one and it looks well done. I would be interested in see other colours in this paint style (matt) as it's very good value for money!

[DJR 7]

chris watton said:

stain said:

I had a full respray carried out on my Griff by S and D. The car did have to have part of it done again but it looks amazing now. The cost was as quoted on their website for a standard metallic paint.

I just looked at their website, thinking they'd be molto-expensive, having seen some of the numbers bandied around on here, but a full colour change re-spray for my car (Tamora) is around £3600+paint, so perhaps £4.5k all inclusive (unless you go for a really expensive colour)

How the hell do people get it up to £12k!

The point of this thread was to determine the quality of work produced by S&D and customer satisfaction.
Whether you pay 6k or 12k isn't the issue, whatever works they agree to undertake should be carried out to the highest standard.
Chris you stated earlier that a picture says more than a thousand angry words, when eventually my car is returned I will give that course of action some considerable thought.

[iac60]

I had a full respray at S&D and a full Retrim at D&C trim last year.

.... But I wouldn't give any advice to that tosser zeberdee

[glow worm]

iac60 said:

I had a full respray at S&D and a full Retrim at D&C trim last year.

.... But I wouldn't give any advice to that tosser zeberdee

My best advice to S&D would be to refuse to take on the work .

[MrChips]