IT Contracting is nearly dead!

IT Contracting is nearly dead!

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wighty

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261 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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zippy500, please don't tar us all with the same brush

I left permanent employment in 1994, and the big difference between myself and many IT contractors is that (unless the client has no requirements specification) I work on a fixed price (job) basis, ie the risk is with me. Also I have built up my own clients and have never used agencies (to find work or for contact staff). I have never had no work to do and currently have several contractors (also on fixed price arrangements) working for me so that larger jobs can be facilitated for clients.

You make your own way through life and those who rely on third parties (agencies) to find their income, should get out more and be preapred to work for a fixed price... or is that just too risky?

davidy




I agree! I have found my own work, but I have also worked through many agencies! I still get called by agencies quite often! Some are good, some are bad! But you have to make your own success story! That job is not just sitting waiting for you to full it! It has about 200 other guys waiting to full it too! I truly feel sorry for contractors that have been out of work for 8,9,10 months! I have 12 years experience, out of that time I have contracted for 6 of those years! I have left a job on a Friday and started one on the Monday! But not any more! It is a case of not what you know but who now!

JonRB

74,584 posts

272 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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PC,IT, BBC its all greek to me.
You must be very proud of that.
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You must all earn too much or you wouldnt have flash cars.
I'm so sorry. I didn't realise that I had to hide the fruits of my labours so as not to offend green-eyed jealous types who talk out of their arse.

Perhaps I shouldn't have bothered slogging my guts out for 14 years since leaving school in order to afford my dream car?

Haven't you got anything more constructive to say?

>> Edited by JonRB on Friday 2nd August 13:56

wighty

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57 posts

261 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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PC,IT, BBC its all greek to me. You must all earn to much or you wouldnt have flash cars. The majority of people on PH are in IT. Thats based on a recent post.


So you like it Greek then!

wighty

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261 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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PC,IT, BBC its all greek to me.
You must be very proud of that.
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You must all earn too much or you wouldnt have flash cars.
I'm so sorry. I didn't realise that I had to hide the fruits of my labours so as not to offend green-eyed jealous types who talk out of their arse.

Perhaps I shouldn't have bothered slogging my guts out for 14 years since leaving school in order to afford my dream car?

Haven't you got anything more constructive to say?

>> Edited by JonRB on Friday 2nd August 13:56



Jon,

You are so right!

scruff400

3,757 posts

261 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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The majority of people on PH are in IT.



I'm not - The majority of people on PH have computers.
The majority of people in IT post on topics to do with IT.


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zippy500

1,883 posts

269 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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PC,IT, BBC its all greek to me.
You must be very proud of that.
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You must all earn too much or you wouldnt have flash cars.
I'm so sorry. I didn't realise that I had to hide the fruits of my labours so as not to offend green-eyed jealous types who talk out of their arse.

Perhaps I shouldn't have bothered slogging my guts out for 14 years since leaving school in order to afford my dream car?

Haven't you got anything more constructive to say?

>> Edited by JonRB on Friday 2nd August 13:56



What planet are you on.
I too have worked hard for 12 years to afford mine. So how can I be Jealous. When did I say I was green eyed.

raceboy

13,103 posts

280 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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Glad I'm not paying you boys by the hour, the amount of time you spend on here!

davidy

4,459 posts

284 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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No' I'll do it for a fixed price!!!

davidy

wighty

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57 posts

261 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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Glad I'm not paying you boys by the hour, the amount of time you spend on here!



My rate is quite low now! It's only took me 5 minutes to type my response to you, so I've emailed you my invoice!

"Four professionals - an engineer, a chemist, an accountant and an IT contractor - were all boasting about how clever their dogs were.

The engineer said that his dog could do something pretty impressive, so the others asked him to show them. "Setsquare, come here" shouted the engineer, "do your stuff." The dog walked over, picked up a ruler and a pencil and drew a perfect square on a piece of paper that was on the floor. The others agreed that this was pretty impressive.

The chemist also said that his dog was very intelligent, and offered to show the others. "Prescrption, come here, do your stuff". Prescrption ran over and went to the fridge, where he took out a bottle of milk. Then he took a 10ml glass and poured the milk into the glass, right up to the top of the rim, without spilling any. Again everyone thought this was pretty cool.

Then the accountant called his dog over. "Spreadsheet, get to work". Spreadsheet ran into the kitchen and brought out a box of twelve biscuits. He then opened the box and divided the biscuits into four equal piles of three each. The four professionals were suitably impressed.

They turned to the IT contractor and said "What can your dog do?" The IT contractor called his dog over. "Chargeable, come over here, get to work." Chargeable ambled over, drank the milk, ate the cookies, dumped on the paper, shagged the three other dogs, presented a bill for seven thousand pounds, lit a cigar, got into his TVR and screeched off into the sunset"

mhibbins

14,055 posts

279 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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About time you PC people learnt to live in the real world and found reality. Bunch of overpaid primadonna's as you are.
WTF has it got to do with you how people make their money?

philshort

8,293 posts

277 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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I too have worked hard for 12 years to afford mine
So what overpaid profession do you follow then Zippy?

Do yourself a favour and crawl out from under than chip. Let the grown ups talk now, go play with your toys.

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robkola

1,589 posts

264 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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Sounds like Wighty needs to pop down to Pantiles for the next TVR meet, if you are interested in young ladies. (Did I say "too" young for you?)
OR a cold shower.

raceboy

13,103 posts

280 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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wrighty
Used to work next to the office accountant, as he would say 'your cheques in the post'
classic line along the same lines as 'of course I love you' and 'I will not (do something unmentionable) in your face'
Davidy
Your cheque really will be in the post

JonRB

74,584 posts

272 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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I too have worked hard for 12 years to afford mine
So what overpaid profession do you follow then Zippy?
Yeah, Zippy, they must be paying you too much if it only took you 12 years when it took me 14.
Driving around in your flash Griff 500.

Bet your pot is as black as my kettle, eh?

>> Edited by JonRB on Friday 2nd August 14:29

wighty

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57 posts

261 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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Sounds like Wighty needs to pop down to Pantiles for the next TVR meet, if you are interested in young ladies. (Did I say "too" young for you?)
OR a cold shower.



I'm interested in the two at the same time type ladies and the ones that love to on top of me!! Tell me when and I'll try and be there!

MikeyT

16,553 posts

271 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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His name was Max, but he was known as Superhod. Used to earn more than the brickies on his site and was featured on BBC's Nationwide program as well as the press.
Chhers
JSG



Well done JSG, but you only qualify for half a pint as you didn't get his surname

Still, I'll give you a few weeks til PH4 ...

wighty

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261 months

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It's hardly a hard job though, some 18 year old techie out of college should be able to do this. £35 pa isn't too bad if your 18.


Reuters and Triarch? 18 and out of college? It's still a crap rate, and maybe it's just me, but I personally don't know any 18 year that could do this! I've lectured part-time on off in IT, and this is way beyond most 18 year old! Unless they have the work experience, and if they had that why would they want to earn £13/Hour for 3 months! It's crap! I wouldn't care but the same agency is advertising a similar role for better money!
I'm off for a again! My mission today is to find some 18 year old college girl techie's (I have some old students in mind too) and check out their experience and skill levels personally. I will than pass the information on!


I have found some young ladies! Excellent skills set but they will do fcuk all £13/hour they want at least £50/hour each! Should I email this invoice to you also Raceboy! You can watch the video of the interview first

raceboy

13,103 posts

280 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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Can I have 3 of them for 10 minutes, shouldn't take much longer than that, £25 well spent

wighty

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57 posts

261 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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Can I have 3 of them for 10 minutes, shouldn't take much longer than that, £25 well spent


I'm busy pumping them for more information at the moment! I'll let you know!

robkola

1,589 posts

264 months

Friday 2nd August 2002
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Sounds like Wighty needs to pop down to Pantiles for the next TVR meet, if you are interested in young ladies. (Did I say "too" young for you?)
OR a cold shower.



I'm interested in the two at the same time type ladies and the ones that love to on top of me!! Tell me when and I'll try and be there!


You're up North, unfortunately Pantiles is in Surrey where we start out meets . . we'll send you some piccies next week!