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Firstly, apologies if this topic is in the wrong place or contains questions that are asked regularly, I'm just looking for some help.
I've been interested in (lusted after) TVRs for about 25 years and feel that this year could finally be the year when my TVR dream becomes reality. I know quite a few of you on here seem to own or have owned the cars so I'm looking for some honest opinions and a reality check.
The first thing I want to understand is whether owning a TVR that I could use 2 or 3 days per week is a realistic dream. I don't know much about the cars but have stumbled across comments about "starting process" and wonder what this all means.
A number of cars I've seen advertised for sale mention "engine rebuild at 30k" (or similar) and my concern is, why would this be needed at such a low mileage? I guess what I'm looking for is an idea of running costs. I understand they need to be serviced at every 6K (which I wouldn't expect to be more than once per year) but what other costs would I be looking at on an annual basis? I'm not planning on turning into a racing driver, I want the car because I've always admired its looks, I'm not planning on thrashing it every where I go.
I've not settled on a specific model yet, but my current thinking is that a convertible probably isn't the best option due to reports of leaks etc, but if people on here can put my mind at rest then maybe being a convertible won't count against the car I consider.
At present I'm thinking of a T350 Targa, a Tuscan or a Griffith (in that order). Should I be looking at only models under a certain age? I'm thinking of a budget around £30k which I think will be enough to secure a decent model.
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
I've been interested in (lusted after) TVRs for about 25 years and feel that this year could finally be the year when my TVR dream becomes reality. I know quite a few of you on here seem to own or have owned the cars so I'm looking for some honest opinions and a reality check.
The first thing I want to understand is whether owning a TVR that I could use 2 or 3 days per week is a realistic dream. I don't know much about the cars but have stumbled across comments about "starting process" and wonder what this all means.
A number of cars I've seen advertised for sale mention "engine rebuild at 30k" (or similar) and my concern is, why would this be needed at such a low mileage? I guess what I'm looking for is an idea of running costs. I understand they need to be serviced at every 6K (which I wouldn't expect to be more than once per year) but what other costs would I be looking at on an annual basis? I'm not planning on turning into a racing driver, I want the car because I've always admired its looks, I'm not planning on thrashing it every where I go.
I've not settled on a specific model yet, but my current thinking is that a convertible probably isn't the best option due to reports of leaks etc, but if people on here can put my mind at rest then maybe being a convertible won't count against the car I consider.
At present I'm thinking of a T350 Targa, a Tuscan or a Griffith (in that order). Should I be looking at only models under a certain age? I'm thinking of a budget around £30k which I think will be enough to secure a decent model.
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
The one I own is not on your list (Chimaera) but if you click on my profile in the garage area there is a full blog of what my car has cost in 20 months.
To my knowledge there is not a lot of difference between running any of them,depending on where you have it serviced then the cars you have listed may be £75-100 more than mine to service.
Just looking at a couple of the specialists at the moment Chimaera 6k service £350 12k £425 same as the Griffith
Speed six engine T350 Tuscan 6k £425 12k £650 but remember there is usually + + on this bill,little niggles you want looking at or some old part that needs replacing.
It may be that you are handy with the spanners or like tinkering so costs can be saved.
If you use the search area on here there is plenty of info and should not take you long to find out why the speed six engine were having rebuilds. Warm up procedure is a must on a speed six engine which basically means you can not start it up rev the engine when cold and about 15-20 mins of driving is needed before oil temp reaches it's peak.
I'm sure more speed six owners will be along,good advice already about going to a TVRCC local meeting.
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Even on my Chimaera I use a warm up procedure where I do not exceed 3k revs before my water temp has hit 65-70 which is again 10-15 minutes.
To my knowledge there is not a lot of difference between running any of them,depending on where you have it serviced then the cars you have listed may be £75-100 more than mine to service.
Just looking at a couple of the specialists at the moment Chimaera 6k service £350 12k £425 same as the Griffith
Speed six engine T350 Tuscan 6k £425 12k £650 but remember there is usually + + on this bill,little niggles you want looking at or some old part that needs replacing.
It may be that you are handy with the spanners or like tinkering so costs can be saved.
If you use the search area on here there is plenty of info and should not take you long to find out why the speed six engine were having rebuilds. Warm up procedure is a must on a speed six engine which basically means you can not start it up rev the engine when cold and about 15-20 mins of driving is needed before oil temp reaches it's peak.
I'm sure more speed six owners will be along,good advice already about going to a TVRCC local meeting.
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Even on my Chimaera I use a warm up procedure where I do not exceed 3k revs before my water temp has hit 65-70 which is again 10-15 minutes.
Edited by TVRJAS on Wednesday 18th March 11:46
At present I'm thinking of a T350 Targa, a Tuscan or a Griffith (in that order). Should I be looking at only models under a certain age? I'm thinking of a budget around £30k which I think will be enough to secure a decent model.
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Look for a T350 with a TVR Powers 4.3 engine upgrade
if you can find one that still has the warranty even better, the warranty is 5 years unlimited if serviced at another garage but 100,000 miles no mater how many years it takes if serviced at TVR Power
http://www.powersperformance.co.uk/upgrades/43-lit...
One like this
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
But if you could stretch your budget buy this one, 4.5 same as mine and the engine is absolutely awesome and the car has all the possible upgrades you could possibly want, a bargain too, engine alone costs £15k ish once all the bits are done and that's without the rest of the upgrades
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Look for a T350 with a TVR Powers 4.3 engine upgrade
if you can find one that still has the warranty even better, the warranty is 5 years unlimited if serviced at another garage but 100,000 miles no mater how many years it takes if serviced at TVR Powerhttp://www.powersperformance.co.uk/upgrades/43-lit...
One like this
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
But if you could stretch your budget buy this one, 4.5 same as mine and the engine is absolutely awesome and the car has all the possible upgrades you could possibly want, a bargain too, engine alone costs £15k ish once all the bits are done and that's without the rest of the upgrades
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
Engine rebuilding is a complex issue. If you have a rebuild one (from known specialists) it should be pretty safe to assume, that you will not see engine probs in the future. Engines in general should be warmed up properly and treated with some mechanical sympathy. This goes for all engines, not only SP6 perticularly. Seems, that the SP6 is a little more sensitive to thrashing it from cold. But heard of 911 B6s being rebuild for similar reasons for a lot more money.
My T350 has 30k+ miles on it and never had a rebuild. Engine is just fine needing a throttle rebalancing maybe. There are so many other SP6 cars having much more miles on the clock and no rebuild. There a people having rebuilds done to have peace of mind and/or enlargen the displacement. But this is not necessarily linked with a hurting engine. Personally I would not invest several 1000s worth until something is wrong with the engine.
If you're unsure about which model you should choose, I'd use one of the TVR car meets to talk to owners, as Oggs suggested. With 30k you should get a decent car withever model you fancy. Some of them might be a little more pricy than others. But general values are on the rise i would say. Especially on Tuscans. Slowly, but steady.
Also you should at least ride shotgun in the ones you named. Beter you get a fisrt hand experience behind the wheel. Depending on which cars you've had before, they can be a bit special - not really behaving like modern cars, more like classics cars (my opinion). Do not misunderstand: I really like how they feel and drive!
Maintenance cost depends on the condition of the car you buy and the quality standard you want to achieve. Based on the regular things you have to do to get the mechanical stuff sorted, it's the same as with every car i guess. Personally I want to better the car step by step, so I'm making adjustments and upgrades to the car every year. I do these things by myself, but nevertheless it is outweighing the cost for the regular maintenance by far. ;-)
As it is normal with all older cars: They have their niggles, which need to be sorted. I discovered a flashing/dimming LED surround on my dash just yesterday for example. Or you need to check one or another ECU because the doors won't open or the window will not close. Mostly dodgy connectors. Things like that can occur and need sorting.
But again, a TVR is a car like any other (older model).
My T350 has 30k+ miles on it and never had a rebuild. Engine is just fine needing a throttle rebalancing maybe. There are so many other SP6 cars having much more miles on the clock and no rebuild. There a people having rebuilds done to have peace of mind and/or enlargen the displacement. But this is not necessarily linked with a hurting engine. Personally I would not invest several 1000s worth until something is wrong with the engine.
If you're unsure about which model you should choose, I'd use one of the TVR car meets to talk to owners, as Oggs suggested. With 30k you should get a decent car withever model you fancy. Some of them might be a little more pricy than others. But general values are on the rise i would say. Especially on Tuscans. Slowly, but steady.
Also you should at least ride shotgun in the ones you named. Beter you get a fisrt hand experience behind the wheel. Depending on which cars you've had before, they can be a bit special - not really behaving like modern cars, more like classics cars (my opinion). Do not misunderstand: I really like how they feel and drive!
Maintenance cost depends on the condition of the car you buy and the quality standard you want to achieve. Based on the regular things you have to do to get the mechanical stuff sorted, it's the same as with every car i guess. Personally I want to better the car step by step, so I'm making adjustments and upgrades to the car every year. I do these things by myself, but nevertheless it is outweighing the cost for the regular maintenance by far. ;-)
As it is normal with all older cars: They have their niggles, which need to be sorted. I discovered a flashing/dimming LED surround on my dash just yesterday for example. Or you need to check one or another ECU because the doors won't open or the window will not close. Mostly dodgy connectors. Things like that can occur and need sorting.
But again, a TVR is a car like any other (older model).
Thanks to those who have so far replied. From what I've read the "starting procedure" seems to be no more than keep the revs down until the engine has got to a certain temperature? If so, that shouldn't be a problem as long as the car doesn't idle at anything ridiculous like 3,000 rpm!
The main thing I'm pleased about in the replies I've read is that no one has said anything to scare me off allowing the dream to live on. The feeling like an old car comments are a bit concerning as I've been spoilt by modern technology, but hopefully the drive will feel no more outdated than my old Alfa 156 year 2000 model.
The next step will probably be for me to visit a couple of dealers when the weather is a bit better (maybe May) so I can get my hands on the different models. Fernhurst Motor Company seem to have a lot of TVR stock and Racing Green TVR also seem to have a fair selection. Does anyone have any experience of these companies?
The main thing I'm pleased about in the replies I've read is that no one has said anything to scare me off allowing the dream to live on. The feeling like an old car comments are a bit concerning as I've been spoilt by modern technology, but hopefully the drive will feel no more outdated than my old Alfa 156 year 2000 model.
The next step will probably be for me to visit a couple of dealers when the weather is a bit better (maybe May) so I can get my hands on the different models. Fernhurst Motor Company seem to have a lot of TVR stock and Racing Green TVR also seem to have a fair selection. Does anyone have any experience of these companies?
If you're after a convertable then the Tamora should be on your list as well.
TVR's need to be driven. I have an S as my daily driver (and trackdays) and a Tamora for highdays and holidays. Using one 2 - 3 times a week will be ideal.
The S6 engine does need warming up properly to safeguard it as best as an owner can. This can be difficult at times as (in my Tamora) there is too much air flow through the rad and engine bay. I have driven her for 90-minutes and still not got up to temp according to the dials. The engine does change though when it is up to temp. It's hard to describe, it just feels 'set'.
If you're not going to do the mileage then get it serviced every 12-months. If you do, then stick to 6k and 12k intervals. It's not just the oil change, it's an opportunity to check the car over.
Personally, if I had bought my S first then I would have bought a T350 or Sag rather than a Tamora.
Get along to a local meet - there are loads, some organised through Facebook, some the TVRCC and some on here.
If you do my a S6 engined car then don't worry too much about a rebuild being done or not. Assess the car on it's condition. A good TVR without a rebuild is better than a rough one with a rebuild. If one hasn't been done just keep in mind that you MAY need to find the cash for one.
TVR's need to be driven. I have an S as my daily driver (and trackdays) and a Tamora for highdays and holidays. Using one 2 - 3 times a week will be ideal.
The S6 engine does need warming up properly to safeguard it as best as an owner can. This can be difficult at times as (in my Tamora) there is too much air flow through the rad and engine bay. I have driven her for 90-minutes and still not got up to temp according to the dials. The engine does change though when it is up to temp. It's hard to describe, it just feels 'set'.
If you're not going to do the mileage then get it serviced every 12-months. If you do, then stick to 6k and 12k intervals. It's not just the oil change, it's an opportunity to check the car over.
Personally, if I had bought my S first then I would have bought a T350 or Sag rather than a Tamora.
Get along to a local meet - there are loads, some organised through Facebook, some the TVRCC and some on here.
If you do my a S6 engined car then don't worry too much about a rebuild being done or not. Assess the car on it's condition. A good TVR without a rebuild is better than a rough one with a rebuild. If one hasn't been done just keep in mind that you MAY need to find the cash for one.
I'm not convinced a convertible is for me because I'm a little concerned about leakage. The car will be in my garage when not in use but I don't want to worry about it leaking everytime I'm out and it rains, this is why the T350 currently heads my list.
I'd not thought too much about the Tamora because IMO, it doesn't stand out as much (i.e. doesn't look as mad) as the other cars I've mentioned. It does look smaller though so when I see the cars "in the flesh" I may think its size offers some advantages.
I'd not thought too much about the Tamora because IMO, it doesn't stand out as much (i.e. doesn't look as mad) as the other cars I've mentioned. It does look smaller though so when I see the cars "in the flesh" I may think its size offers some advantages.
Willtl said:
The feeling like an old car comments are a bit concerning as I've been spoilt by modern technology, but hopefully the drive will feel no more outdated than my old Alfa 156 year 2000 model.
To put it another way: If you compare a Tamora or T350 with a BMW Z3/early Z4 which has comparable age, size, engine-drivetrain concept, then the TVRs feel like what they are: Handbuilt niche cars with chassis layout conceived in the early 50s with modernized 70s racing-derived damping setup and absence of any electrical/electronical gizmos beside assisted steering/brakes, electrical windows (and doors!) as well as a simple car audio. This is what I meant by "old car feeling"So no fancy stuff, no BMW/VW quality standards, no limousine ride quality but plenty (!) of character and lots of grunt to have fun on twisty roads to get a permanent grin on your face. :-)
Pesonally (!) I do not like to ride my T350 on the Autobahn, or motorways if you like.
- The steering is pretty sharp with almost no dead zone and little steer angle,
- at least on mine a really loud exhaust getting on my nerves beyond 120 kph because of
- the short transmission/diff gear ratios and therefore high revs as well as
- a short wheelbase, which can make the car twitchy at high speeds.
So in my opinion the T350 does not qualify as a proper GT, but a real sports car. On the upside all the above is really fantastic on twisty b-roads and the occasional track day. And this is exactly what I bought the car for!
Also a proper geo setup, good tyres + tyre correct pressure and good coil overs are needed to get a pleasant drive feeling.
All the above IMO of course! Therefore you should really get an own impression before getting to exited for one or another model, because they are different in certain aspects.
Also only the Griff on your list is a real convertible (unless you go for a pricey Mk2/3 Tuscan)
Willtl said:
I'm not convinced a convertible is for me because I'm a little concerned about leakage. The car will be in my garage when not in use but I don't want to worry about it leaking everytime I'm out and it rains, this is why the T350 currently heads my list.
I'd not thought too much about the Tamora because IMO, it doesn't stand out as much (i.e. doesn't look as mad) as the other cars I've mentioned. It does look smaller though so when I see the cars "in the flesh" I may think its size offers some advantages.
Where do you live, I have T350 and a Griff your welcome to have a go in bothI'd not thought too much about the Tamora because IMO, it doesn't stand out as much (i.e. doesn't look as mad) as the other cars I've mentioned. It does look smaller though so when I see the cars "in the flesh" I may think its size offers some advantages.
My T350 is a 4.5 with 414BHP and 368 lb/ft of torque so is a joy to drive on motorways as she just burbles along at most speeds and not as revvy as the 3.6 and when you hit the loud pedal she takes off, I have Gaz Monotubes and has been set up properly so drives great on motorways and on the twisty bits, I put the standard exhaust back on because I could not stand the noise of the sports exhaust which are fine on short journeys but I do a lot of driving in France so I don,t have an headache when I get out, maybe its just that I am getting old, she has had so many upgrades as well like 330mm discs, plus some others
My Griff is a 1999 and just had an engine rebuild and also has some very nice upgrades ACT Triple Plenum, AST shocks and Wilwood brakes plus some other nice upgrades, love the Griff for summer driving, by the way she does not leak even in heavy run , I also have a Surrey roof which fits in the boot so much better then the standard one
You need to drive a T350 as you seem to be leaning towards one, I bought my T350 and she had 58000 miles on the clock and I knew I was going to upgrade the engine
But as they say you pays your money and takes your choice
Willtl said:
The feeling like an old car comments are a bit concerning as I've been spoilt by modern technology, but hopefully the drive will feel no more outdated than my old Alfa 156 year 2000 model.
As a Tuscan owner with 2 Alfa 156's & having driven hundreds of cars over the years believe me you cannot compare the drive of the Tuscan with anything else. It's not an outdated feel in anyway but with the lack of any electronic aids (aside from power steering), a very twitchy rear end, VERY precise steering and a floor-mounted pedal box, it feels very much like driving a pure race-prepared machine than a car. Don't get me wrong though, it's still a luxurious feel when you're in it & very comfortable even on very long journeys, but crossed with being inside a UFO!Mine has been very expensive to keep going, but still going it is and used as a daily, so when you pay £5k for it like I did you've got to kinda expect that expense! I'll tell you one thing for sure though - they are MUCH better when used all the time! & the warmer the engine the more it opens up
The trouble is there's so much to discuss to get the full story with any of these cars it's too much to write on here, so if you can get to speak to owners in person and go for a ride in one as said previously then you should do that before going any further.
Personally I've found it takes a lot of love, respect and commitment but the rewards are incredible! Every TVR owner whatever shape of form will know that feeling of waking up on a clear spring morning & thinking 'it's time'!
If you are at a loose end on Sunday 12th April, head over to Burghley House - it's near Stamford, just north of Peterborough and just off the A1.
There will be over 700 TVRs there (as long as it isn't a monsoon or a snow storm), so you can compare styles and so on at your leisure.
If you fancy a ride in one, come along to the start of one of the run outs the previous day and blag a passenger ride.
There will be over 700 TVRs there (as long as it isn't a monsoon or a snow storm), so you can compare styles and so on at your leisure.
If you fancy a ride in one, come along to the start of one of the run outs the previous day and blag a passenger ride.
RobertoBlanco said:
So in my opinion the T350 does not qualify as a proper GT, but a real sports car.
If you don't want a convertable or targa because of worries about leaks, and are put off by comments above.... then fear not! your ideal TVR is in fact a Cerbera!! No roof leak worries, great looks, slightly longer wheelbase means more predictable handling than some of the other TVRs (who mentioned Mk 1 tuscan??), your choice of AJP V8 or Speed 6 engines, look no further!!To agree with other posts - get yourself down to a few TVRCC meets etc and have a look round a few different models, chat to owners etc. The Burley event on 11th and especially Sunday 12th April would be a great opportunity to see approx 600 TVRs all in one place (if previous years figures and the attendance at Burley's predecessor Chatsworth House events are anything to go by) which also means that you can oggle absolutely every single different model TVR. My personal benefit when I was looking for my TVR was seeing which colours I thought suited each model - brilliant when you have 100's TVRs to look at "in the flesh"...
(come on in, the waters' lovely...)
QBee said:
If you are at a loose end on Sunday 12th April, head over to Burghley House - it's near Stamford, just north of Peterborough and just off the A1.
There will be over 700 TVRs there (as long as it isn't a monsoon or a snow storm), so you can compare styles and so on at your leisure.
If you fancy a ride in one, come along to the start of one of the run outs the previous day and blag a passenger ride.
Perfect, What Tony has just said, a mix of every TVR model with everybody there from TVRCC and P'heds owners, only the 2nd time it has been held at Burghley as last year was a massive success with everyone mixing in well as all TVR owners do, and unlike the chatsworth gathering their will be TVR specialists on hand promoting their comapanies so lots to look at in TVR servicing; modifications, upgrades and restorations. There will be over 700 TVRs there (as long as it isn't a monsoon or a snow storm), so you can compare styles and so on at your leisure.
If you fancy a ride in one, come along to the start of one of the run outs the previous day and blag a passenger ride.
The roof on any decent Chimaera or Griffith will not leak. It is not a common problem and should not influence your decision of whether or not to get a convertible.
The only leak that the Chimaera (and I assume also the Griffith, and possibly also other TVR models) is prone to actually has nothing to do with the roof. Water can flow down the inside of the front wings, inside the engine bay - this is a normal aspect of the car's design. On the right-hand side there are a couple of holes allowing access to the brake and clutch fluid reservoirs, and these are protected by plastic covers which are sealed with silicone. If that seal isn't good then water can get inside the wing, and will find its way down into the driver's footwell.
This problem is moderately common, but easily fixed. I don't know whether it affects other TVR models, but wouldn't be surprised if it is fairly universal.
The only leak that the Chimaera (and I assume also the Griffith, and possibly also other TVR models) is prone to actually has nothing to do with the roof. Water can flow down the inside of the front wings, inside the engine bay - this is a normal aspect of the car's design. On the right-hand side there are a couple of holes allowing access to the brake and clutch fluid reservoirs, and these are protected by plastic covers which are sealed with silicone. If that seal isn't good then water can get inside the wing, and will find its way down into the driver's footwell.
This problem is moderately common, but easily fixed. I don't know whether it affects other TVR models, but wouldn't be surprised if it is fairly universal.
Willtl said:
I'm just looking for some help.
You're definitely in the right place 
Willtl said:
I've been interested in (lusted after) TVRs for about 25 years and feel that this year could finally be the year when my TVR dream becomes reality.
25 years? Good God Man!Willtl said:
I'm looking for some honest opinions and a reality check.
You'll definitely get those, although some Griff owners do have a strange sense of what is real 
Willtl said:
The first thing I want to understand is whether owning a TVR that I could use 2 or 3 days per week is a realistic dream.
The answer to that is a very definite yes. Although there may be ocassions where you discover that a robust sense of humour comes in handy 
Willtl said:
I'm not planning on turning into a racing driver, I want the car because I've always admired its looks, I'm not planning on thrashing it every where I go.
In time, you'll get over this one Willtl said:
my current thinking is that a convertible probably isn't the best option due to reports of leaks etc, but if people on here can put my mind at rest then maybe being a convertible won't count against the car I consider.
Convertible TVR's are the quickest. And you get a sun tan... (if you go abroad)Willtl said:
At present I'm thinking of a T350 Targa, a Tuscan or a Griffith (in that order).
Great choices well two of them are R7EBO said:
Willtl said:
The feeling like an old car comments are a bit concerning as I've been spoilt by modern technology, but hopefully the drive will feel no more outdated than my old Alfa 156 year 2000 model.
As a Tuscan owner with 2 Alfa 156's & having driven hundreds of cars over the years believe me you cannot compare the drive of the Tuscan with anything else. It's not an outdated feel in anyway but with the lack of any electronic aids (aside from power steering), a very twitchy rear end, VERY precise steering and a floor-mounted pedal box, it feels very much like driving a pure race-prepared machine than a car. Don't get me wrong though, it's still a luxurious feel when you're in it & very comfortable even on very long journeys, but crossed with being inside a UFO!Mine has been very expensive to keep going, but still going it is and used as a daily, so when you pay £5k for it like I did you've got to kinda expect that expense! I'll tell you one thing for sure though - they are MUCH better when used all the time! & the warmer the engine the more it opens up
The trouble is there's so much to discuss to get the full story with any of these cars it's too much to write on here, so if you can get to speak to owners in person and go for a ride in one as said previously then you should do that before going any further.
Personally I've found it takes a lot of love, respect and commitment but the rewards are incredible! Every TVR owner whatever shape of form will know that feeling of waking up on a clear spring morning & thinking 'it's time'!
A TVR is demanding and rewarding in equal measures, but it will punish incompetence or disrespect too. You don't need to be thrashing it to feel like you're actually involved in the driving experience. Infact there are a good number of happy owners who will happily admit that they are a little afraid to thrash the car. You need good experience, good reactions and a dash of bravery to push a TVR really hard. Fortunately you can still go much quicker than 99% of other cars on the road without even trying.
You need to try one. They're all a little different to each other, but compared to a family saloon car like the 156 they will all feel rather 'full on' at first. Their bark is worse than their bite and you do settle in to them. Thereafter normal cars and supposedly "engineered to perfection" cars like Porsches just seem tedious to drive.
Thanks again for all the comments. My first car was a 1976 Ford Capri so I know well what it is like to drive without driving aids, even without power steering *shudder*
I then moved to a 1987 Ford Orion 1.6i Ghia, 1992 Ford Orion 1.8 LXi, 2000 Alfa 156 2.0 TS and currently have a 59 plate 325i coupe.
I'm going to have a call with a dealership tomorrow to go through my list of questions and after that (assuming I've not heard anything to put me off) will arrange to have a test drive for some of their cars. Not sure when the test drive will be (thinking of May), but this depends on how long they will keep a model I like if I put down a deposit as I'm not thinking of getting one until October.
I then moved to a 1987 Ford Orion 1.6i Ghia, 1992 Ford Orion 1.8 LXi, 2000 Alfa 156 2.0 TS and currently have a 59 plate 325i coupe.
I'm going to have a call with a dealership tomorrow to go through my list of questions and after that (assuming I've not heard anything to put me off) will arrange to have a test drive for some of their cars. Not sure when the test drive will be (thinking of May), but this depends on how long they will keep a model I like if I put down a deposit as I'm not thinking of getting one until October.
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