TVR Parts Network - new twist
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cjb44 said:
Kerridges, TVR in Needham Market in Suffolk. Kerridges were the main dealer for TVR from the outset, good people and very fair - have treated me very well, Chris and Jamie (the main men in the workshop) are top class.
I stand corrected! 
Dom, are you looking to work with TVR101 at all?
gacksen said:
still missing quite important info here........
if the KTM shims are as soft as said what is the HRC hardness of your shims Dom ?
I think it is only you that thinks its important old chap.. Especially considering where the shims sit in the engine..or is it how hard Doms Shins are!! if the KTM shims are as soft as said what is the HRC hardness of your shims Dom ?
Edited by gacksen on Saturday 30th May 15:16
Did you ever get to the bottom of your conundrum with the relative merits of cast and forged pistons?
N.
gacksen said:
still missing quite important info here........
if the KTM shims are as soft as said what is the HRC hardness of your shims Dom ?
gacksen, you should have seen this thread: http://tvr-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=4738&... already, where the german chap helmut measured the HRC of some given shims. He found that the RG shims have the same numbers as the KTM shims. So we have to assume that the TVR network shims (if they will be the RG ones) are not compliant with powers rules. And therefore powers shims have to be better/harder than the known shims............ End of story :-)if the KTM shims are as soft as said what is the HRC hardness of your shims Dom ?
Edited by gacksen on Saturday 30th May 15:16
twinreal said:
gacksen, you should have seen this thread: http://tvr-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=4738&... already, where the german chap helmut measured the HRC of some given shims. He found that the RG shims have the same numbers as the KTM shims. So we have to assume that the TVR network shims (if they will be the RG ones) are not compliant with powers rules. And therefore powers shims have to be better/harder than the known shims............ End of story :-)
a lot of assumption in your post 
still missing the TVR power shim HRC number...... could you enlighten us dom ?
Edited by gacksen on Saturday 30th May 17:42
gacksen said:
a lot of assumption in your post
still missing the TVR power shim HRC number...... could you enlighten us dom ?
Are you assuming Doms shims are harder, softer or just of a different quality?…Surely its a little bit more complex than that…What is the relative strengths of the materials that the shim is in contact with, personally I would always want a shim to be a sacrificial piece and certainly not harder than the other pieces it is in contact with!! Perhaps Dom just doesn't want to divulge his known materials since obviously why would you!! Why should Dom give you any numbers…Why don't you take a one and have your own Brinel hardness testing carried out!still missing the TVR power shim HRC number...... could you enlighten us dom ?
Edited by gacksen on Saturday 30th May 17:42
At the end of the day if you aren't satisfied then its a simple enough matter to go else where and see if they will give you a comparable warranty!!
I have no allegiance to Dom or any engine specialists for that matter but I do have every sympathy for someone who doesn't want to pay hundreds of quid per month to a shyster..Which is the main issue here and not your HRC numbers obtained from Brinel hardness testing…
Shim stock is readily available in varying hardnesses..You could even laser cut your own. The secret and evidently Doms secret is being satisfied with what he uses to allow him to stand by his own engines…No one can knock a guy for that!!
N.
Of all the regular service components, it's only the shims that have to be hardness matched to the finger followers in Power engines. The filters, plugs and oils are essentially all off the shelf items.
For those of us long out of warranty, just make sure that for your 12k services you supply your own Power shim kit, or if the dealers have any sense they will still be buying these bits off Power on the side anyway.
For those of us long out of warranty, just make sure that for your 12k services you supply your own Power shim kit, or if the dealers have any sense they will still be buying these bits off Power on the side anyway.
Dollyman1850 said:
Are you assuming Doms shims are harder, softer or just of a different quality?…Surely its a little bit more complex than that…What is the relative strengths of the materials that the shim is in contact with, personally I would always want a shim to be a sacrificial piece and certainly not harder than the other pieces it is in contact with!! Perhaps Dom just doesn't want to divulge his known materials since obviously why would you!! Why should Dom give you any numbers…Why don't you take a one and have your own Brinel hardness testing carried out!
At the end of the day if you aren't satisfied then its a simple enough matter to go else where and see if they will give you a comparable warranty!!
I have no allegiance to Dom or any engine specialists for that matter but I do have every sympathy for someone who doesn't want to pay hundreds of quid per month to a shyster..Which is the main issue here and not your HRC numbers obtained from Brinel hardness testing…
Shim stock is readily available in varying hardnesses..You could even laser cut your own. The secret and evidently Doms secret is being satisfied with what he uses to allow him to stand by his own engines…No one can knock a guy for that!!
N.
leaving the network for contract or money reasons is a fully understandable thing. a lot of people would have done the same to remain independent.At the end of the day if you aren't satisfied then its a simple enough matter to go else where and see if they will give you a comparable warranty!!
I have no allegiance to Dom or any engine specialists for that matter but I do have every sympathy for someone who doesn't want to pay hundreds of quid per month to a shyster..Which is the main issue here and not your HRC numbers obtained from Brinel hardness testing…
Shim stock is readily available in varying hardnesses..You could even laser cut your own. The secret and evidently Doms secret is being satisfied with what he uses to allow him to stand by his own engines…No one can knock a guy for that!!
N.
bringing up a 2 year old topic and throwing some pictures in that are 2 years old without any background info stating just wrong makes me wonder.
it is not helpfull making people feel insecure having rebuilt engines that got serviced elsewhere for a long time without mentioning something
more substantial as two old pictures and a wrong in regards of a shim of unknown source.
those are some real world figures :
Racing Green Shim New: 62 HRC
KTM Shim New: 63,5 HRC
TVR Power Shim New: secret HRC
of course you can get some X153CrMoV12 get it cut as you like and you have your own shims....
Edited by gacksen on Sunday 31st May 09:52
sgrimshaw said:
Tvr Power said:
"Powers Original authorized centres" nothing changed apart from the companies who have signed up with the Tvr Network
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Tvrssouth Devon
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Dom
Who are "Tvrssouth"?....
Tvrssouth Devon
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Dom
I can recommend them. Colin sorted out some tricky issues with my engine & very good to deal with.
gifdy said:
sgrimshaw said:
Who are "Tvrssouth"?
http://www.tvrssw.com/I can recommend them. Colin sorted out some tricky issues with my engine & very good to deal with.
gacksen said:
guff
In fairness Dom hasn't dug up / raised anything. He has responded to questions as to why he decided to clarify/revise his warranty situation in the light of changes to the TVR 'rebirth'. I can fully see where Dom is coming from as I wouldn't (and indeed don't) take responsibility for someone else's products.We get it, you weren't happy with the 4.3 you got and you decided to go your own way.
So did M4TTI and he's gracious enough not to post on every thread that has the vaguest connection with Powers implying Dom is somehow being deceitful or underhand.
Give it a rest already.
sgrimshaw said:
gifdy said:
sgrimshaw said:
Who are "Tvrssouth"?
http://www.tvrssw.com/I can recommend them. Colin sorted out some tricky issues with my engine & very good to deal with.
gifdy said:
Are you saying Dom is referring to another company rather than just getting the name wrong ?
Well I didn't know, so I asked.You've assumed it is Tvrssw, which is actually not in Devon but in Somerset.
Given the business "Tvrssouth Devon" is on a list of "Powers Original authorized centres", it's not unreasonable to seek clarification if the name (and location) is unfamiliar.
sgrimshaw said:
gifdy said:
Are you saying Dom is referring to another company rather than just getting the name wrong ?
Well I didn't know, so I asked.You've assumed it is Tvrssw, which is actually not in Devon but in Somerset.
Given the business "Tvrssouth Devon" is on a list of "Powers Original authorized centres", it's not unreasonable to seek clarification if the name (and location) is unfamiliar.
sgrimshaw said:
Well I didn't know, so I asked.
You've assumed it is Tvrssw, which is actually not in Devon but in Somerset.
Given the business "Tvrssouth Devon" is on a list of "Powers Original authorized centres", it's not unreasonable to seek clarification if the name (and location) is unfamiliar.
On a similar theme, 'SD Autec Leeds' is in fact Steve Darvill's company called SD Autotec based in Great Ouseburn in north Yorkshire and around 45 minutes from Leeds in west Yorkshire.You've assumed it is Tvrssw, which is actually not in Devon but in Somerset.
Given the business "Tvrssouth Devon" is on a list of "Powers Original authorized centres", it's not unreasonable to seek clarification if the name (and location) is unfamiliar.
But still closer than Coventry for me (2 hours)
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