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barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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OleVix said:
I took out my engine with both manifolds on before doing the body lift, not too bad!
Hi Thanks, i was hoping to avoid taking the engine out if poss as im working in a single garage and there isnt much room, also i would have to hire an engine hoist to lift it out and again to put it back in, regards Jim.

EGB

1,774 posts

157 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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barnsweeper said:
Hi Thanks, i was hoping to avoid taking the engine out if poss as im working in a single garage and there isnt much room, also i would have to hire an engine hoist to lift it out and again to put it back in, regards Jim.
Lucky me. My bolts came out easy, perhaps because I lubricated them overnight with a 50/50 mixture of Acetone and Automatic transmission fluid. According to an USA publication it took only a 1/4 of force compared to WD 40 in a test to remove a stubborn bolt. I think I got the Acetone from Boots. The 14mm spanner passed under the first forward bolt may do it. If not then perhaps a slim line pipe mole grip wrench locked on with max force will do the job. Good luck.


Edited by EGB on Thursday 4th June 23:45

barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Anything is worth a try, thanks,Jim.

DarkMatter

1,473 posts

231 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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barnsweeper said:
Its the actual manifold thats in the way, but thanks for the suggestion.
I was able to change my Griffith engine mounts without removing the manifolds, but needed to have both mounts unbolted to enable the engine to be raised/shifted a little, hence I thought that if you unbolted the mounts it might just allow you to shift the engine far enough to get a different spanner or socket onto the bolt.

barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Thanks for that but I can't get a socket or a ring spanner on the bolt as the manifold prevents it, I'm going to remove the offside manifold hopefully over the weekend and try to lift the body with the nearside on. Regards Jim.

DarkMatter

1,473 posts

231 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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barnsweeper said:
I can't get a socket or a ring spanner on the bolt as the manifold prevents it
Ahh, I understand now. Hope you make progress this weekend.

ukdj

1,004 posts

184 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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have you considered removing/sliding back the exhaust and attacking the bolt from underneath?

barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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ukdj said:
have you considered removing/sliding back the exhaust and attacking the bolt from underneath?
Hi thanks for the suggestion, I've already removed the exhaust and had a tho from underneath, I've been into x works at wesham today and he showed me what shape spanners they use and a couple of techniques, so hopefully tomorrow night I should have it removed, I'm spanner bending tonight. Regards, Jim.

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Good luck Jim smile

barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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ChilliWhizz said:
Good luck Jim smile
Cheers chili.

barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Sunday 7th June 2015
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Update, well folks I have tried every which way to remove this manifold bolt without success so I made an attempt at removing the offside manifold and would you believe it the same bolt is seized on the other side, so I decided to take the engine out with gearbox attached, whilst trying to remove the pas pump pulley it became obvious that the car has been stored in a damp garage for the last 5 years corrosion has took its toll on nearly every nut and bolt its even a struggle to undo a jubilee clip, however everything is now detached and I am just waiting for an engine leveller which I have ordered this morning, I am going to try and take some pictures of the shed I mean car and put them up next week, when you see it you will think I have gone mad, I am starting to think that this may take a while before the car is back on the road. Jim.

J400GED

1,202 posts

237 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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Any news Jim?

barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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J400GED said:
Any news Jim?
Unfortunately not really the same bolt is seized on both sides, so I decided i will have to remove the engine, I don't think there is a bolt or nut that isn't seized due to the car being stood for the last five years, the engine is ready to be removed and I have just ordered an engine leveller so as soon as it arrives I will hire an engine hoist and lift it out, its made me more determined to restore the car however long it takes. Jim.

zed4

7,248 posts

222 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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I like your determination!

I once had a guy come in to work and he said he ran a company which specialises in visiting people and removing seized nuts and bolts. That’s all he did! Might be worth seeing if there’s a similar service up your way. He might have the right tools and techniques to get these stuck bolts out.

barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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I'm commited to removing the engine now, once its out I can put it on the trailer and take it up to xworks at wesham its only five mins from where I live and the guys that run it are great blokes and will help you out, I even had to drill one of the flanged bolts on the pas pump pulley, it seems that five years stood in a garage has taken its toll on every but and bolt. Thanks for the suggestion, Jim.

barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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Does anyone know what the thickness is on the oblong exhaust plate which is underneath the car near the rear axle, mine is badly corroded so I was thinking of making a new one, the one I've taken off is around 1.5mm and crumbly so I can't tell if it was ever any thicker.

LongBaz463BHP

2,090 posts

217 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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I feel your pain. I am in the same process of trying to remove the exhaust manifold, got the top front three bolts (two of which snapped) undone. However the back two on each side are proving difficult, can't get a ring or socket on them. So will now have to take the engine out, which I was trying to avoid. Again all this to be done in a single integral garage. Like you I am planning on loading it on a trailer and taking it to someone to take the engine out for me. Oh the joysirked

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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LongBaz463BHP said:
I feel your pain. I am in the same process of trying to remove the exhaust manifold, got the top front three bolts (two of which snapped) undone. However the back two on each side are proving difficult, can't get a ring or socket on them. So will now have to take the engine out, which I was trying to avoid. Again all this to be done in a single integral garage. Like you I am planning on loading it on a trailer and taking it to someone to take the engine out for me. Oh the joysirked
Apart from sympathy from me Barrie, I have a trailer you can borrow.

barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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LongBaz463BHP said:
I feel your pain. I am in the same process of trying to remove the exhaust manifold, got the top front three bolts (two of which snapped) undone. However the back two on each side are proving difficult, can't get a ring or socket on them. So will now have to take the engine out, which I was trying to avoid. Again all this to be done in a single integral garage. Like you I am planning on loading it on a trailer and taking it to someone to take the engine out for me. Oh the joysirked
I went into x works tvr and they showed me some of the spanners that they use on manifolds, they are called facom midget 75 degree open end spanners they are supplied by a company called Gibbs tools in Scotland £7.45 +vat & postage, unfortunately they order them from France so will take around 10 days, good luck with you're project. Jim.

LongBaz463BHP

2,090 posts

217 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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facom midget 75 degree open end spanners

Just had a look on Ebay, there are loads of them.
Barrie