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J400GED

1,202 posts

237 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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barnsweeper said:
Hi Ged, I found the inertia switch and it wasn't tripped, checked fuses all OK, so I jacked the car up and put a live and neutral direct to the pump from the battery and there was not a whisper, not sure if its something I have done when putting it back, ie not put the isolating rubber washers back properly or something, I'll have to have a look on the net, anyway where's the best place to pick up a pump?, Jim.
I think the isolating rubber washers are for anti-vibration rather than electrical isolation.
The fuel pump is a Bosch item, if you search on the Pistonheads Chimaera forum I'm sure you will be able to find the Bosch part number, then buy one locally to you.
Or, you can go to somewhere like TVR Parts Ltd
"Fuel pump, Bosch
Part Number : TVR L0067
Product Description :
OE TVR fuel pump to fit Griffith, Chimaera and V8S. This is the correct OE Bosch fuel pump for the TVR Chimaera and Griffith and is a quality part for ongoing reliability.

Price : £95.00 plus VAT
Price : £114.00 inc. VAT @ 20.00%"

Note to Moderators: I have no link to TVR Parts LTD and I don't stand to benefit from them in any way shape or form, I am just helping a friend.

barnsweeper

Original Poster:

258 posts

107 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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J400GED said:
I think the isolating rubber washers are for anti-vibration rather than electrical isolation.
The fuel pump is a Bosch item, if you search on the Pistonheads Chimaera forum I'm sure you will be able to find the Bosch part number, then buy one locally to you.
Or, you can go to somewhere like TVR Parts Ltd
"Fuel pump, Bosch
Part Number : TVR L0067
Product Description :
OE TVR fuel pump to fit Griffith, Chimaera and V8S. This is the correct OE Bosch fuel pump for the TVR Chimaera and Griffith and is a quality part for ongoing reliability.

Price : £95.00 plus VAT
Price : £114.00 inc. VAT @ 20.00%"

Note to Moderators: I have no link to TVR Parts LTD and I don't stand to benefit from them in any way shape or form, I am just helping a friend.
Thanks Ged.

JWzed

185 posts

125 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Fuel Pump is Bosch, Part Number 0580464008. Bought one for my Chim from Euro Car Parts who recognised the number on their system. They had one on the shelf!
Seem to remember it was more reasonably priced.smile

barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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JWzed said:
Fuel Pump is Bosch, Part Number 0580464008. Bought one for my Chim from Euro Car Parts who recognised the number on their system. They had one on the shelf!
Seem to remember it was more reasonably priced.smile
OK thanks mate.

J400GED

1,202 posts

237 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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JWzed said:
Fuel Pump is Bosch, Part Number 0580464008. Bought one for my Chim from Euro Car Parts who recognised the number on their system. They had one on the shelf!
Seem to remember it was more reasonably priced.smile
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barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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J400GED said:
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Hi Ged, installed new fuel pump, primes like a goodun, trouble is there's a fuel leak behind the plenum, not sure where its coming from as its only evident when cranking the engine, I know its not any of the fuel pipes, so its either the fuel pressure regulator or no 7 injector, I'll have to get someone to crank it while I have a look, I'm getting a bit fed up with it now I feel like throwing the towel in.

J400GED

1,202 posts

237 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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barnsweeper said:
Hi Ged, installed new fuel pump, primes like a goodun, trouble is there's a fuel leak behind the plenum, not sure where its coming from as its only evident when cranking the engine, I know its not any of the fuel pipes, so its either the fuel pressure regulator or no 7 injector, I'll have to get someone to crank it while I have a look, I'm getting a bit fed up with it now I feel like throwing the towel in.

Mate, don't throw the towel in, you've come a hell of a long way, not far to go.

Tell you what, sit down with a cuppa or a beer and have a look back through all the pics you have taken and see how you have transformed the car since you've had it.

Keep at it, you won't regret it.

How long has it been since the car actually ran?
Was the engine bay fire damaged and if so, where was the seat of the fire?

Keep your chin up mate, I'm rooting for you! beer




barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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J400GED said:

Mate, don't throw the towel in, you've come a hell of a long way, not far to go.

Tell you what, sit down with a cuppa or a beer and have a look back through all the pics you have taken and see how you have transformed the car since you've had it.

Keep at it, you won't regret it.

How long has it been since the car actually ran?
Was the engine bay fire damaged and if so, where was the seat of the fire?

Keep your chin up mate, I'm rooting for you! beercheers Ged, no fire in engine bay cars not run since 2010, after reading a few posts on pH I think fuel is being forced past the sealing o ring on the fuel pressure regulator, I'll order one tomorrow and see what happens, I suspect the old one has hardened up and gone brittle, just had a beer and I'm off to bed now, I'll take the plenum off tomorrow and see if I can see anything, grrr.

J400GED

1,202 posts

237 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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barnsweeper said:
J400GED said:

Mate, don't throw the towel in, you've come a hell of a long way, not far to go.

Tell you what, sit down with a cuppa or a beer and have a look back through all the pics you have taken and see how you have transformed the car since you've had it.

Keep at it, you won't regret it.

How long has it been since the car actually ran?
Was the engine bay fire damaged and if so, where was the seat of the fire?

Keep your chin up mate, I'm rooting for you! beercheers Ged, no fire in engine bay cars not run since 2010, after reading a few posts on pH I think fuel is being forced past the sealing o ring on the fuel pressure regulator, I'll order one tomorrow and see what happens, I suspect the old one has hardened up and gone brittle, just had a beer and I'm off to bed now, I'll take the plenum off tomorrow and see if I can see anything, grrr.
I'm pretty sure you don't have to take the pleanum off to reach the pressure regulator - admittedly it would give you more room - just the hose from the plenum inlet round to the back of the stepper motor housing. If it hasn't run for 5+ years then there is every chance that the o-ring has failed. If you are taking the regulator off to check the o-ring I would fit a new regulator - if the o-ring has gone then the diaphragm probably won't be far behind!

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barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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J400GED said:
I'm pretty sure you don't have to take the pleanum off to reach the pressure regulator - admittedly it would give you more room - just the hose from the plenum inlet round to the back of the stepper motor housing. If it hasn't run for 5+ years then there is every chance that the o-ring has failed. If you are taking the regulator off to check the o-ring I would fit a new regulator - if the o-ring has gone then the diaphragm probably won't be far behind!

Best of luck mate. thumbup
Cheers Ged, I'll have a look today sometime, it seems that you fix one thing and it leads to another, chain reaction springs to mind. It's a good job it didn't start last night, as the valley gasket was full of petrol and it was running down the gearbox over the exhaust, the cars on the axle stands, so I couldn't have done anything about it, I dodged a bullet on that one.

J400GED

1,202 posts

237 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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barnsweeper said:
Cheers Ged, I'll have a look today sometime, it seems that you fix one thing and it leads to another, chain reaction springs to mind. It's a good job it didn't start last night, as the valley gasket was full of petrol and it was running down the gearbox over the exhaust, the cars on the axle stands, so I couldn't have done anything about it, I dodged a bullet on that one.
yikes

You're quite right there. These things happen for a reason though mate. You could have started the car with no leak at all for a fews days or whatever and then for it to fail at some inopportune moment.

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barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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J400GED said:
yikes

You're quite right there. These things happen for a reason though mate. You could have started the car with no leak at all for a fews days or whatever and then for it to fail at some inopportune moment.

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Hi Ged, I managed to order a regulator from Tvr parts for £60 + postage which I asked for next day before 1 so it was a bit dearer, £13, it was still cheaper than most, when I removed the old reg there was no petrol in the return pipe, it was bone dry, so my thinking is the regulator was seized and didn't let anything through so it escaped through the o ring, its the only thing I can think of, I'll pressurise the system before I put the plenum back tomorrow, I've read a couple of posts on here indicating other people have had the same problem.

J400GED

1,202 posts

237 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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barnsweeper said:
Hi Ged, I managed to order a regulator from Tvr parts for £60 + postage which I asked for next day before 1 so it was a bit dearer, £13, it was still cheaper than most, when I removed the old reg there was no petrol in the return pipe, it was bone dry, so my thinking is the regulator was seized and didn't let anything through so it escaped through the o ring, its the only thing I can think of, I'll pressurise the system before I put the plenum back tomorrow, I've read a couple of posts on here indicating other people have had the same problem.
Hmmm, it'll be interesting to hear what you find.

barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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J400GED said:
Hmmm, it'll be interesting to hear what you find.
Hi Ged, tried priming car with old regulator in place and it was gushing fuel past the oring, put new for on a and its cured it, however while putting everything back together I noticed the no2 injector also has a bit of a leak, so I've abandoned it till I can get a couple of seals.

J400GED

1,202 posts

237 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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barnsweeper said:
Hi Ged, tried priming car with old regulator in place and it was gushing fuel past the oring, put new for on a and its cured it, however while putting everything back together I noticed the no2 injector also has a bit of a leak, so I've abandoned it till I can get a couple of seals.
If you're changing the seals on one injector I would suggest that you change them all - otherwise you will just be moving the leak to the next weakest seal.

barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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J400GED said:
If you're changing the seals on one injector I would suggest that you change them all - otherwise you will just be moving the leak to the next weakest seal.
All the seals were new from when I cleaned the injectors, I must have nipped one when I put them back,

Sardonicus

18,958 posts

221 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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barnsweeper said:
All the seals were new from when I cleaned the injectors, I must have nipped one when I put them back,
Vaseline yes and make sure the inj openings are grit and corrosion free

barnsweeper

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258 posts

107 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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Sardonicus said:
aseline yes and make sure the inj openings are grit and corrosion free
Cheers mate.

J400GED

1,202 posts

237 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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barnsweeper said:
All the seals were new from when I cleaned the injectors, I must have nipped one when I put them back,
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J400GED

1,202 posts

237 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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Sardonicus said:
barnsweeper said:
All the seals were new from when I cleaned the injectors, I must have nipped one when I put them back,
Vaseline yes and make sure the inj openings are grit and corrosion free
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