TVR to take deposits in 6 days time ....

[R7EBO]

I know I'm still not very knowledgable with TVR in the grand scheme of things, but I'm as passionate as anyone when it comes to the brand. I can't get enough of seeing that badge on the front of MY car & seeing those 3 letters next to my name on a V5 is an absolute dream come true. Indeed It could almost be argued that I'm addicted to my Tuscan!

Unfortunately I will never be in a position to be able to put my name down for the new car - if I could I'd be getting an even bigger fix in a Sag right now... However I am still massively excited by the prospect of what is around the corner & it makes me really sad to see all the negative stuff on here. Granted the new car isn't going to be for everyone & no, TVR won't be the same as it once was, but why does that make it a bad thing?? It might be better than it ever has been I don't know, but then nobody does because nothing has happened yet! So why slag it off & mock the plans of these guys who seem to be trying everything they can to please the faithful? I guess sometimes you just cannot win with some people...

If you can afford it & are committed enough to put your hard earned down then good on you. I for one hope it's the best decision you ever make & prove the naysayers wrong. I know I would if I could. If you don't want to or aren't sure then don't, but don't bring everyone else down with you. Nobody has a gun to anyone's head & nobody is forcing anyone to part with anything, but at least they're giving the option. Also why shouldn't club members be given privileges?? Part of the incentive to sign up to the club is to get the club discounts & rewards!

I love TVR, I love my car & I love that the brand is back, so please let the rest of us enjoy the excitement & stop trying to dampen the spirit, & maybe even try being a bit more optimistic

[Lotus E300S]

No new details either.

[portzi]

alex_gray255 said:

The details of the deposit schema have just been released via email

I know your not allowed to spill the beans Tim, but give us a little snippett of the email as we all know you have put your 5000 deposit down !!!!

Mark

[m3jappa]

Remember it's in the British to slag stuff off, especially stuff which Britain makes.

Infact it appears that over the last few years there's a strong following of those who infact just hate Britain (I'm talking British people here) who talk negatively about our society, about our 'left wing government' punishing the poor, how we should be ashamed of tradition, and how other countries have it so right. Perhaps they should fk off to Greece.

Last weekend I got stuck in a serious traffic jam in the Tuscan, it was baking hot and for some reason the car stalled and wouldn't start, I got out and pushed it into a layby (on my own) while doing this I noticed the car which was behind me and now driving past the bloke in it was actually laughing, I mean wtf sort of person laughs? fking prick. Anyway the car restarted within about 3 minutes, I dont know why it did it as I've been in worse traffic in 40 degree heat before.

[PuffsBack]

R7EBO said:

I know I'm still not very knowledgable with TVR in the grand scheme of things, but I'm as passionate as anyone when it comes to the brand. I can't get enough of seeing that badge on the front of MY car & seeing those 3 letters next to my name on a V5 is an absolute dream come true. Indeed It could almost be argued that I'm addicted to my Tuscan!

Unfortunately I will never be in a position to be able to put my name down for the new car - if I could I'd be getting an even bigger fix in a Sag right now... However I am still massively excited by the prospect of what is around the corner & it makes me really sad to see all the negative stuff on here. Granted the new car isn't going to be for everyone & no, TVR won't be the same as it once was, but why does that make it a bad thing?? It might be better than it ever has been I don't know, but then nobody does because nothing has happened yet! So why slag it off & mock the plans of these guys who seem to be trying everything they can to please the faithful? I guess sometimes you just cannot win with some people...

If you can afford it & are committed enough to put your hard earned down then good on you. I for one hope it's the best decision you ever make & prove the naysayers wrong. I know I would if I could. If you don't want to or aren't sure then don't, but don't bring everyone else down with you. Nobody has a gun to anyone's head & nobody is forcing anyone to part with anything, but at least they're giving the option. Also why shouldn't club members be given privileges?? Part of the incentive to sign up to the club is to get the club discounts & rewards!

I love TVR, I love my car & I love that the brand is back, so please let the rest of us enjoy the excitement & stop trying to dampen the spirit, & maybe even try being a bit more optimistic

I have always loved TVR's, nothing else ever really did it for me, not even a Prancing Horse or Raging Bull. However TVR's are Dinosaurs, my Sagaris really is not that much different from a 1950's Grantura but that's part of the core DNA, the appeal.
Whats coming at best is going to be a claws clipped, teeth whitened, silicon enhanced, polar bear friendly, new labour, Tyrannosaurus Rex.
Letting the brand die doesn't mean we don't love the brand - its just means we acknowledge its core DNA has no place in 2015 and that is should lie in peace.

Edited by PuffsBack on Monday 6th July 23:40

[DonkeyApple]

unrepentant said:

Totally different DA. Aston, Bentley and Rolls never closed down for 10 years and divested themselves of any vestige of what went before. Nor even did TVR before. There's nothing left of what went before but a name. Even when TVR went bust in the past someone bought it up and carried on. If I go and buy the name Stutz and start making cars called Bearcats are they really Stutz Bearcats? Not really.

Edited by unrepentant on Monday 6th July 21:10

It's not really any different this time v all the other times it's gone bust, been bought by new owners who have brought out their idea of a TVR. Only time is maybe different but how do you define that metric within the concept of a brand/idea/ethos or a marque that has been around for as long as this one?

Even if time is the focus and definer then how is this itself measured? Is it from when the factory was closed or when the previous owner stopped developing the next car? And the restart? Is that from when the company was and trademark changed hands or will it be when the first car appears?

I think it's fair to say that brands are usually greater than their owners and that a period of dormancy can't kill a brand.

But what can kill it is a failed revival!

[G1ABB]

I've asked if the money will be held in a client trust account or similar. Not that I don't trust LE, but I'm old School when it comes to being careful with cash.

Meanwhile, I wonder if T37 means anything?

Edited by G1ABB on Monday 6th July 23:42

[HarryW]

harry henderson said:

The TVRCC may be a great club to be a member of if you already own a TVR but if you are just a fan or even a potential new owner then not too helpful. The ' if you're not a member you're not coming in' attitude really does put you off joining.

Never found that when I was a member, if anything quite the opposite if you've yet to get one with everyone advising you the one they have, be it Griff Chim etc is the to get....

[dvs_dave]

Well at least we can now refer to the new car in discussions as the T37. Although no other details being released to coincide will imho hurt the number of initial deposits taken.

[unrepentant]

DonkeyApple said:

unrepentant said:

Totally different DA. Aston, Bentley and Rolls never closed down for 10 years and divested themselves of any vestige of what went before. Nor even did TVR before. There's nothing left of what went before but a name. Even when TVR went bust in the past someone bought it up and carried on. If I go and buy the name Stutz and start making cars called Bearcats are they really Stutz Bearcats? Not really.

It's not really any different this time v all the other times it's gone bust, been bought by new owners who have brought out their idea of a TVR. Only time is maybe different but how do you define that metric within the concept of a brand/idea/ethos or a marque that has been around for as long as this one?

Even if time is the focus and definer then how is this itself measured? Is it from when the factory was closed or when the previous owner stopped developing the next car? And the restart? Is that from when the company was and trademark changed hands or will it be when the first car appears?

It's completely different. Wilkinson and others ran it from birth to 1965. Lilley bought it in 65 and ran it until Wheeler bought it in 81. Wheeler ran it until he sold it to Smolenski in 2004. Smolenski ran it into the ground and it ceased to exist in 06. Cars were made in Blackpool pretty much continuously from 47 - 04. 9 years have passed since the last car was made. The factory is gone so are all the people and the cars.

[DonkeyApple]

unrepentant said:

DonkeyApple said:

unrepentant said:

Totally different DA. Aston, Bentley and Rolls never closed down for 10 years and divested themselves of any vestige of what went before. Nor even did TVR before. There's nothing left of what went before but a name. Even when TVR went bust in the past someone bought it up and carried on. If I go and buy the name Stutz and start making cars called Bearcats are they really Stutz Bearcats? Not really.

It's not really any different this time v all the other times it's gone bust, been bought by new owners who have brought out their idea of a TVR. Only time is maybe different but how do you define that metric within the concept of a brand/idea/ethos or a marque that has been around for as long as this one?

Even if time is the focus and definer then how is this itself measured? Is it from when the factory was closed or when the previous owner stopped developing the next car? And the restart? Is that from when the company was and trademark changed hands or will it be when the first car appears?

It's completely different. Wilkinson and others ran it from birth to 1965. Lilley bought it in 65 and ran it until Wheeler bought it in 81. Wheeler ran it until he sold it to Smolenski in 2004. Smolenski ran it into the ground and it ceased to exist in 06. Cars were made in Blackpool pretty much continuously from 47 - 04. 9 years have passed since the last car was made. The factory is gone so are all the people and the cars.

So it's not just about time but also the factory and the people?

TVR was still working on building cars after the factory closed. The Sagaris II and Typhoon etc. Would they not have been TVRs?

[gemini]

Put it away boys!

[gemini]

How many models have TVR made?
T37?

[DonkeyApple]

gemini said:

How many models have TVR made?
T37?

I think that comes from Gordon Murray doesn't it? I recall his city car was T35 or similar?

[dazee]

Maybe it refers to the 0-60 time? 3.7 seconds?

Anyways, nice to see some of the questions answered in the mail. Deposits are fully refundable etc, the TRCC is just a deposit incentive, not a discount on total price.

Am very interested in this and excited about a new car coming and wish them all the best. After all, it is their success here that can only help in the support of the existing cars. Am not putting a deposit down yest as I think first I need to hear that the cars will be available in Japan in order for me to buy one. Am really hoping these new releases of information will mean they will be at this years Tokyo motor show....

[julian64]

bad company said:

julian64 said:

What I can tell you is that if the new car makes an appearance the second hand price of saggys will fall off a cliff.

Really, why?

Well because whats holding the price of saggies up. It must be the fact that its the last TVR produced by the company before it died.

In any other respect its got the same engine as tams, tuscans, and T350s and some cerbs so is no faster. Its got a better chassis for cornering but its no lotus. And its four times the price of almost any other TVR out there perhaps more.

What do you think has been justifying its price over other TVRs?

What do we think will happen if it no longer has the title of last TVR produced?

[Byker28i]

Nothing on the website yet...

[DonkeyApple]

julian64 said:

Well because whats holding the price of saggies up. It must be the fact that its the last TVR produced by the company before it died.

In any other respect its got the same engine as tams, tuscans, and T350s and some cerbs so is no faster. Its got a better chassis for cornering but its no lotus. And its four times the price of almost any other TVR out there perhaps more.

What do you think has been justifying its price over other TVRs?

What do we think will happen if it no longer has the title of last TVR produced?

I think it's more the case that the others are far too cheap and if there is a new TVR and it sells then it'll be the catalyst for these models to move up. The more succesful this new car is and the more it brings new blood into the ownership fold then the more demand for the older models.

[AMDBSTony]

Am going to contact them today as there is simply not enough information on which to place a deposit.

Need to see and better understand the commercials around this.

I also think that it would be another 'nice' gesture to reward those of us that support the brand by owning one. With that in mind the lower deposit should extend to owners as well.

Most unfair if it doesnt.

[V8 GRF]

G1ABB said:

Meanwhile, I wonder if T37 means anything?

I suspect that is an internal project number assigned by Gordon Murray Design as his other iStream project cars were T25 and T27 so I guess there's other projects in-between and TVR is T37.