TVR to take deposits in 6 days time ....

TVR to take deposits in 6 days time ....

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DonkeyApple

55,402 posts

170 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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julian64 said:
What I can tell you is that if the new car makes an appearance the second hand price of saggys will fall off a cliff.
I would have predicted that as any new TVR price point moves up it will bring the older models with it. I can't see the price of Sags falling because there is a new model. That would suggest that people only own them as they are the most expensive TVR and will dump them to ensure they have the next car? Personally, I think that if the new car builds on where TVR left off then it'll boost Sagaris values considerably.

Lotus E300S

339 posts

113 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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DonkeyApple said:
I would have predicted that as any new TVR price point moves up it will bring the older models with it. I can't see the price of Sags falling because there is a new model. That would suggest that people only own them as they are the most expensive TVR and will dump them to ensure they have the next car? Personally, I think that if the new car builds on where TVR left off then it'll boost Sagaris values considerably.
I agree and I can see all late Speed Six Tvr values going up, I would think now is probably the time to buy and looking at how Sags are selling at the moment other people must agree,

A T350/Tam looks a bargain to me, a standard low mileage car is definitely worth a punt.

Limited build numbers will keep prices climbing.

macdeb

8,512 posts

256 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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XK120FHC said:
DonkeyApple said:
And why shouldn't the club get something for their members? It's not exactly a saving of any kind just a gesture from the company that reflects that the club had worked on its own since 2006 to look after the brand.
What exactly have the TVRCC done to look after the brand?
more than most of us,,,,
or do you think it better they didn't exist?

XK120FHC

250 posts

187 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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macdeb said:
more than most of us,,,,
or do you think it better they didn't exist?
I wouldn't say I'd prefer it if the TVRCC didn't exist.
TVR stopped building cars in 2006 and plan to start again in 2017, the TVRCC haven't done anything between these times I would describe as looking after the brand. I've heard some club members saying how the club have 'kept the brand alive', they seem to overestimate themselves. The only person who has kept the brand alive is Les Edgar by buying it, the TVRCC have done nowt to help TVR exist.

macdeb

8,512 posts

256 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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So, how come I've seen him on the TVRCC club stand at the classic show at NEC more than once. If the guy who has bought it thought the TVRCC was insignificant why would he show up. He asked many of us our views. The only thing I see that the club could've done better would be to have bought it themselves, but that was never to happen. So, how could they have done better? Not picking a fight here but feel it's pointless to pick on what many see as an asset to keeping the TVR name 'alive'.

XK120FHC

250 posts

187 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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macdeb said:
So, how come I've seen him on the TVRCC club stand at the classic show at NEC more than once. If the guy who has bought it thought the TVRCC was insignificant why would he show up. He asked many of us our views. The only thing I see that the club could've done better would be to have bought it themselves, but that was never to happen. So, how could they have done better? Not picking a fight here but feel it's pointless to pick on what many see as an asset to keeping the TVR name 'alive'.
I'm not saying club could have done anything better but don't see that reason to claim they've 'looked after' or 'kept the brand alive'. I'm not picking a fight either, I've seen Les on the club stand too, how does that mean the club looked after the brand???

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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The TVR car club do a lot of good work to promote TVR cars. Some of the work it does goes unrecognised. Could it get involved in remanufacture of parts that no longer exist and other things that are associated with bigger marque clubs? debatable.

I know some of the car club ROs could maybe have supported better by owning TVRs rather than German "toys" smile

DonkeyApple

55,402 posts

170 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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ROs do a great job organising meets and at least one club official has assisted in several projects to get important cars back on the road.

I think it is correct that the new owner is involving the club.


harry henderson

358 posts

109 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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The TVRCC may be a great club to be a member of if you already own a TVR but if you are just a fan or even a potential new owner then not too helpful. The ' if you're not a member you're not coming in' attitude really does put you off joining.

Lotus E300S

339 posts

113 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Looking forward to more details tomorrow.

m3jappa

6,435 posts

219 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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I'm very excited about this tbh. I am seriously considering a deposit but am unsure if I want to strap myself up to what maybe 80k
The simple reason for being excited is:
Probable tvr styling, let's hope they get it right and it doesn't look too kit car.
Cosworth, need anyone say more
Gordon Murray: need anyone say more.

I really can see this being a modern day Tuscan/sag/350 etc. but a lot better......

PuffsBack

2,430 posts

226 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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DonkeyApple said:
I would have predicted that as any new TVR price point moves up it will bring the older models with it. I can't see the price of Sags falling because there is a new model. That would suggest that people only own them as they are the most expensive TVR and will dump them to ensure they have the next car? Personally, I think that if the new car builds on where TVR left off then it'll boost Sagaris values considerably.
smile Well I think I have made my feelings clear and as Margot Robbie doesn't seem to be prowling around my bedroom looks like I will be keeping my Sag. It ain't being dumped!

portzi

2,296 posts

176 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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harry henderson said:
The TVRCC may be a great club to be a member of if you already own a TVR but if you are just a fan or even a potential new owner then not too helpful. The ' if you're not a member you're not coming in' attitude really does put you off joining.
Why are you saying this Harry, have you a story to share with your Pheds fraternity?

unrepentant

21,272 posts

257 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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DonkeyApple said:
PuffsBack said:
unrepentant said:
I'm a big fan of TVR's - I bought 4 of them including 3 new ones. I even bought the newest one I could when I moved to the USA as I couldn't bring my Sagaris.

What's happening here is nothing to do with TVR though, apart from the name. I could change my name to Jerry Garcia but I wouldn't be him, he's dead, just like TVR.
Got to say I am in agreement with this.

Wonder if I can get away with changing the wifes name to Margot Robbie?
Apart from the minor technicality that it is a brand rather than a human. biggrin

Astons are still Astons. Rollers, Rollers. Porches, Porches. Bentleys, Bentleys etc.

A change of ownership, corporate structure or factory doesn't signify the end to a brand. It never did for TVR in the past either.
Totally different DA. Aston, Bentley and Rolls never closed down for 10 years and divested themselves of any vestige of what went before. Nor even did TVR before. There's nothing left of what went before but a name. Even when TVR went bust in the past someone bought it up and carried on. If I go and buy the name Stutz and start making cars called Bearcats are they really Stutz Bearcats? Not really.

Edited by unrepentant on Monday 6th July 21:10

PuffsBack

2,430 posts

226 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Job done, factory in East Anglia, test track, employees and a box of TVR badges


HarryW

15,151 posts

270 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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harry henderson said:
The TVRCC may be a great club to be a member of if you already own a TVR but if you are just a fan or even a potential new owner then not too helpful. The ' if you're not a member you're not coming in' attitude really does put you off joining.
Never found that when I was a member, if anything quite the opposite if you've yet to get one with everyone advising you the one they have, be it Griff Chim etc is the to get....

bad company

18,642 posts

267 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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julian64 said:
What I can tell you is that if the new car makes an appearance the second hand price of saggys will fall off a cliff.
Really, why?

harry henderson

358 posts

109 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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HarryW said:
harry henderson said:
The TVRCC may be a great club to be a member of if you already own a TVR but if you are just a fan or even a potential new owner then not too helpful. The ' if you're not a member you're not coming in' attitude really does put you off joining.
Never found that when I was a member, if anything quite the opposite if you've yet to get one with everyone advising you the one they have, be it Griff Chim etc is the to get....

I'm not having a go at the members or organisers in any way and do not mean to cause offense. I'm a newbie to TVRs having bought a Cerbera a few months back, my experience with everyone on here and owners at shows and meets has been extremely positive. The comradeship of TVR owners is fantastic and the help and advice has been spot on and greatly appreciated.
It's before you take the plunge and buy one that the website seems to be a bit unhelpful with things like shows and events etc. I imagined that they'd want to tell everyone about their events and invite everyone to join in and spend their money. There is an enormous amount of enthusiasm out there for the TVR brand especially from non owners who just like to admire and listen to the cars.

alex_gray255

6,313 posts

206 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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The details of the deposit schema have just been released via email

Lotus E300S

339 posts

113 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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