2017 TVR predicted pricing
Discussion
andy43 said:
Gazzab said:
Agreed.
My flappy paddle Golf R is relatively rapid. In real life it would show a clean pair of heels to my relatively powerful cerbera eg initial get away, B roads with corners, wet conditions etc But driving the cerbera gives much more pleasure. There is something about the modern performance car that makes you feel like a passenger at times whereas when I am in the mood the TVR driving experience is an event to relish.
There's an Aston thread that makes the same point - whizz bang 0-60 with Playstation gearchanges isn't everything.My flappy paddle Golf R is relatively rapid. In real life it would show a clean pair of heels to my relatively powerful cerbera eg initial get away, B roads with corners, wet conditions etc But driving the cerbera gives much more pleasure. There is something about the modern performance car that makes you feel like a passenger at times whereas when I am in the mood the TVR driving experience is an event to relish.
If I were TVR, reading this and other threads I'd be seriously considering getting something out there in public now whether it's an Autocar spy shot article, engine or factory details or some sketches on the back of a beer mat. They need to keep the ball rolling to try and quash the negative stuff that rightly or wrongly keeps appearing.
Thing is, the deposit is a risk, but for me it's worth it. I don't fit in any Lotus because they are designed for pigmys (I have been assured I will fit in the new TVR with a lid on), I can't drive Pork because I have self esteem, everything else is way too lardy... (AMV8, F type, Mustang) so what choice do I have.. unless I spend twice the money?
The possible result of the combination of GM, Cosworth and Money is a winner as long as the focus is on the driver, stable aero and simplicity... and 400hp / tonne....IMHO
Oh, and I expect the car to be about £75k.
The possible result of the combination of GM, Cosworth and Money is a winner as long as the focus is on the driver, stable aero and simplicity... and 400hp / tonne....IMHO
Oh, and I expect the car to be about £75k.
leerdam23 said:
Thing is, the deposit is a risk, but for me it's worth it. I don't fit in any Lotus because they are designed for pigmys (I have been assured I will fit in the new TVR with a lid on), I can't drive Pork because I have self esteem, everything else is way too lardy... (AMV8, F type, Mustang) so what choice do I have.. unless I spend twice the money?
The possible result of the combination of GM, Cosworth and Money is a winner as long as the focus is on the driver, stable aero and simplicity... and 400hp / tonne....IMHO
Oh, and I expect the car to be about £75k.
I think the only other choice (depending upon your take on the word) at present is the Alfa 6C that I know at least one other TVR owning Pher has placed a note of intent upon.The possible result of the combination of GM, Cosworth and Money is a winner as long as the focus is on the driver, stable aero and simplicity... and 400hp / tonne....IMHO
Oh, and I expect the car to be about £75k.
That is something I'll also be doing shortly as I really can't justify a deposit on the new TVR - I just have too many alarm bells for little things. I really do hope I'm wrong and that they produce a fantastic car but at present I'm just not convinced.
julian64 said:
Just out of interest because I'm not very good at business. What would happen to all the deposits now if TVR ceased trading?
Unless they're using some kind of escrow service for the deposit, assuming the company can't be saved/sold as a going concern to another party, the assets would be liquidated and any money raised would be distributed amongst the creditors.If you're lucky, you typically end up with perhaps a few percent of what you're owed.
if they take as many already available parts and do as less as possible by themselves
engine gearbox wise to keep faults outside and just focus on chassis and styling they will
have their market. they need a good going standard engine that can be modded the easy way
to make some nice figures. spent the money on some crazy in and exterior and anything will be fine.
people are afraid of reliabilty issues but so what if i can take my car to a chevy ford
or whatsoever dealer to get the engine serviced ? there is no reason not to buy it.
the more radical the styling will be the higher price tag you can ask for....
engine gearbox wise to keep faults outside and just focus on chassis and styling they will
have their market. they need a good going standard engine that can be modded the easy way
to make some nice figures. spent the money on some crazy in and exterior and anything will be fine.
people are afraid of reliabilty issues but so what if i can take my car to a chevy ford
or whatsoever dealer to get the engine serviced ? there is no reason not to buy it.
the more radical the styling will be the higher price tag you can ask for....
I've just come from 16 years of Elise ownership into my first TVR (4.5 Cerb).
If TVR can apply Lotus handling (& feel) with TVR power and looks, plus a dose of reliability, they will have a winner.
This talk of blowing everything out of the water is cock and bull - a Skyline GTR already does that. But it doesn't do it in style.
If TVR can apply Lotus handling (& feel) with TVR power and looks, plus a dose of reliability, they will have a winner.
This talk of blowing everything out of the water is cock and bull - a Skyline GTR already does that. But it doesn't do it in style.
SAGTAFF said:
With regards to opinion, it seems its just me and most of the (royal) Pistonheads community that have posted on this thread.
I appear to have received a promotion..........is there monetary reward 
On a sobering note there does appear to be an awful lot to do in order to begin to deliver cars in mid 2017. Even if the financing and backers are in place (which they should be) there is a need for premises, tooling, staff, training, supply lines functioning correctly, car testing, reliability proving, issue resolution etc. etc. To get all this done in less than 2 years is a monstrous task and will severely test all involved.
New TVR also need to continue the press releases on a regular basis since they have made the "big" announcement now. I would like to see the next announcement in early Q4 confirming premises being acquired (location can be withheld if necessary) and agreements with suppliers being in place (names can be withheld if necessary) to show progress, followed by some official artists impressions of the launch car before the end of the year. They have started something which now needs continuous momentum through until the first cars are handed over in my opinion as this will surely encourage more deposits to be taken and the business to expand as they are looking to.
julian64 said:
Just out of interest because I'm not very good at business. What would happen to all the deposits now if TVR ceased trading?
If they were put on a credit card they will be safe I think?But as the thread is TVR pricing in 2017 I believe mine will be no more than £15k that's dos I'm keeping my beloved Cerbera and if I feel the need for a whole new world of speed/power application I'll be putting my money on a Powers 4.7SS Rebuild!
Next month Dave the Trimmer will be doing my interior so that's that mint... I'll even be stretching to another £60 for a full interior/exterior hand valet lol
I must say I'm a little worried with how the brand is going to go even under Russian ownership they kept the real Heart of TVR (make our own lump with no compromise) how stand out from the crowd this will be I don't know and I'm thinking an £85k price tag!
Zippee said:
I think the only other choice (depending upon your take on the word) at present is the Alfa 6C that I know at least one other TVR owning Pher has placed a note of intent upon.
That is something I'll also be doing shortly as I really can't justify a deposit on the new TVR - I just have too many alarm bells for little things. I really do hope I'm wrong and that they produce a fantastic car but at present I'm just not convinced.
TBH I've got far bigger alarm bells about Alfa's ability to produce a car that's nearly as good to drive as it should be from its specification. All of their attempts of the last decade have been snatching defeat from the jaws of victory - by now I feel there must be something sorely missing in their vehicle dynamics assessment and development team. That is something I'll also be doing shortly as I really can't justify a deposit on the new TVR - I just have too many alarm bells for little things. I really do hope I'm wrong and that they produce a fantastic car but at present I'm just not convinced.
On the other hand we have Gordon Murray...
I thought about placing a deposit but for me there are too many unknowns to want to take the risk (even with a credit cards protection).
I really want the new TVR to succeed. But when will the car really be ready, what will it cost, what will it look like, how will it perform, what will the quality be like, how will the network provide support, how long will the major niggles take to resolve..... Well done to those that have put a deposit down (is it really 250?!) - you're braver than me.
I really want the new TVR to succeed. But when will the car really be ready, what will it cost, what will it look like, how will it perform, what will the quality be like, how will the network provide support, how long will the major niggles take to resolve..... Well done to those that have put a deposit down (is it really 250?!) - you're braver than me.
I have read this thread with much interest.Having been a Cerbera owner for 11 years I'm now in the market for a new car.
I have been looking at F Type Jaguars for 12 months or more then the new TVR was announced.
I was tempted,but there is too many 'ifs,buts and maybe's.
So I have decided to buy a V6S F Type Coupe....and keep the Cerb.
If the new TVR is as good as it's intended then I will sell the F Type and the Cerb and buy one....simples.
I have been looking at F Type Jaguars for 12 months or more then the new TVR was announced.
I was tempted,but there is too many 'ifs,buts and maybe's.
So I have decided to buy a V6S F Type Coupe....and keep the Cerb.
If the new TVR is as good as it's intended then I will sell the F Type and the Cerb and buy one....simples.
I have read this thread with much interest.Having been a Cerbera owner for 11 years I'm now in the market for a new car.
I have been looking at F Type Jaguars for 12 months or more then the new TVR was announced.
I was tempted,but there is too many 'ifs,buts and maybe's.
So I have decided to buy a V6S F Type Coupe....and keep the Cerb.
If the new TVR is as good as it's intended then I will sell the F Type and the Cerb and buy one....simples.
I have been looking at F Type Jaguars for 12 months or more then the new TVR was announced.
I was tempted,but there is too many 'ifs,buts and maybe's.
So I have decided to buy a V6S F Type Coupe....and keep the Cerb.
If the new TVR is as good as it's intended then I will sell the F Type and the Cerb and buy one....simples.
viperbluecerb said:
Deposit paid, got to do my bit! Certainly a huge challenge but I for one am excited that someone has the balls to give it a go. It's TVR at the end of the day, expect the unexpected.
Sort of what I did, thought f
k it, it's a new TVR it's going to be exciting I'm in........what possibly could go wrong.Re pricing. We might as well run a competition.
Forget about the highest price because options will fiddle that, so what, to the £ will be the lowest price that the new TVR will be available for, the absolute bottom?
Plus, the bonus question: what month will the first customer delivery be? It has to be a 2017 month (let's have some blind faith in a computer games nerd who suddenly decides to build iconic road cars
).
I'll start with:
A: £74999.99
B: September
September because if it is going to happen in 2017 then I can't see them delivering cars in snow and ice only for the media to photograph the first batch of cars stuck up trees.
Forget about the highest price because options will fiddle that, so what, to the £ will be the lowest price that the new TVR will be available for, the absolute bottom?
Plus, the bonus question: what month will the first customer delivery be? It has to be a 2017 month (let's have some blind faith in a computer games nerd who suddenly decides to build iconic road cars
). I'll start with:
A: £74999.99
B: September
September because if it is going to happen in 2017 then I can't see them delivering cars in snow and ice only for the media to photograph the first batch of cars stuck up trees.
DonkeyApple said:
Re pricing. We might as well run a competition.
Forget about the highest price because options will fiddle that, so what, to the £ will be the lowest price that the new TVR will be available for, the absolute bottom?
Plus, the bonus question: what month will the first customer delivery be? It has to be a 2017 month (let's have some blind faith in a computer games nerd who suddenly decides to build iconic road cars).
I'll start with:
A: £74999.99
B: September
September because if it is going to happen in 2017 then I can't see them delivering cars in snow and ice only for the media to photograph the first batch of cars stuck up trees.
A: £55,001Forget about the highest price because options will fiddle that, so what, to the £ will be the lowest price that the new TVR will be available for, the absolute bottom?
Plus, the bonus question: what month will the first customer delivery be? It has to be a 2017 month (let's have some blind faith in a computer games nerd who suddenly decides to build iconic road cars
). I'll start with:
A: £74999.99
B: September
September because if it is going to happen in 2017 then I can't see them delivering cars in snow and ice only for the media to photograph the first batch of cars stuck up trees.
B: January
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