AutoCar - New TVR V8 first dyno test
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Tvr Power said:
igiveup said:
Tvr Power said:
Its a Ford 5.00 quad cam im sure, the Coyote engine.
Dom
Dom is correctDom
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/tvr-fir...
Dom
Good PR/Marketing opportunity -
Marketing wise TVR might be wise to point out, the historic connection with Ford - producing a Cobra killer in the 60's
(or driver killer depending on how you saw it, v short wheelbase)
Lots of 60's Griffith's - with big Ford V8's in historic racing,
Ford ‘Coyote’ V8 - according to Autocar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TVR_Griffith_400
The standard engine in the 400 was the more powerful Ford 289 'HiPo' Windsor engine producing 271 hp that was available in the Series 200 as an option. The 400 weighed a few more pounds than the 200 due mostly to the new Salisbury independent differential that gave it a higher gear ratio providing it with a higher top speed.
Grantura Ltd. of England designed the independent suspension for the TVR automobiles which later became the Griffith 200 and 400. The Griffith 400 had then state-of-the-art unequal wishbone suspension on all four corners and the car weighed significantly less than its contemporary, the AC Cobra, making it a very potent racing car.
And:
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z13396/TVR-Grif...
Ford dealer Andrew 'Jack' Griffith campaigned an early Shelby Competition Cobra. Driven by Bobby Brown and Mark Donahue, it was painted Viking Blue and wore the number 41. Jack's success with this car inspired him to build his own Anglo-American monster. TVR, a builder of sports cars in Blackpool, England, was contracted to supply body-chassis units. Ford furnished their new 289 cubic-inch V8 and four-speed transmission. This hybrid was named the Griffith Series 200. Period magazine articles raved about the car's brutal acceleration and revealed Jack's plan to campaign a Griffith factory racer.
Marketing wise TVR might be wise to point out, the historic connection with Ford - producing a Cobra killer in the 60's
(or driver killer depending on how you saw it, v short wheelbase)
Lots of 60's Griffith's - with big Ford V8's in historic racing,
Ford ‘Coyote’ V8 - according to Autocar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TVR_Griffith_400
The standard engine in the 400 was the more powerful Ford 289 'HiPo' Windsor engine producing 271 hp that was available in the Series 200 as an option. The 400 weighed a few more pounds than the 200 due mostly to the new Salisbury independent differential that gave it a higher gear ratio providing it with a higher top speed.
Grantura Ltd. of England designed the independent suspension for the TVR automobiles which later became the Griffith 200 and 400. The Griffith 400 had then state-of-the-art unequal wishbone suspension on all four corners and the car weighed significantly less than its contemporary, the AC Cobra, making it a very potent racing car.
And:
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z13396/TVR-Grif...
Ford dealer Andrew 'Jack' Griffith campaigned an early Shelby Competition Cobra. Driven by Bobby Brown and Mark Donahue, it was painted Viking Blue and wore the number 41. Jack's success with this car inspired him to build his own Anglo-American monster. TVR, a builder of sports cars in Blackpool, England, was contracted to supply body-chassis units. Ford furnished their new 289 cubic-inch V8 and four-speed transmission. This hybrid was named the Griffith Series 200. Period magazine articles raved about the car's brutal acceleration and revealed Jack's plan to campaign a Griffith factory racer.
Vixpy1 said:
Tvr Power said:
igiveup said:
Tvr Power said:
Its a Ford 5.00 quad cam im sure, the Coyote engine.
Dom
Dom is correctDom
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/tvr-fir...
Dom
Dom
Looks like a good move.
Also of interest in the follow on interview At 2.10 " We started with the spec of a race car essentially and worked our way back. The iStream process and iStream chassis lends itself to that use of F1 technology , the ground effect car is F1 technology, our aero approach is all F1."
Now that's probably the LeMan car but if some of that trickles down to the road car it could be a very cool.
Also of interest in the follow on interview At 2.10 " We started with the spec of a race car essentially and worked our way back. The iStream process and iStream chassis lends itself to that use of F1 technology , the ground effect car is F1 technology, our aero approach is all F1."
Now that's probably the LeMan car but if some of that trickles down to the road car it could be a very cool.
m4tti said:
Although going for the voodoo 5.2 they would have had 526hp out the box... And the flat crank sound...
This is the point I would make. However outwardly there is very little to tell a Coyote from a Vodoo, except the noise and performance. Time will tell. The Coyote comes in different flavours of tune and can be bought in as a crate engine same as the Mustang lump with around 420hp and 380lbs. It can also be bought with up to 435hp/400lbs too. All of which are under $10k direct from Ford racing as crate.
It would be really good to know what Cosworth are actually doing with it. The base will always be a Coyote if its that that is being mapped/tuned then the answer is very little, which would be really disappointing. If it's to completely reworked the base fair enough, emulate what was done for the Vodoo and some, then I'd be pleased and expect them to better the vodoo results, make it a sort of a DFV for the road..... now that would be something.
I suppose a telling point was in the video it was commented that it made over 500, that was a torque figure in Nm which if it was at or around 500Nm equates to arouind 370lbs, which is what a base crate Coyote makes. I'd like to think its really early days for them to finalise what they are going to offer.
Tvr Power said:
Just show us the road car Les! Engines are the easy bit. As for the Le Mans car series, consumers don't care.
of course consumers care. Its all about reputation, image and association with success in motor sport. Do you think McLaren road cars would be as successful if it wasn't for their Formula 1 background? If (when) TVR race at Le Mans in 2018 and finish it hopefully on the podium in their class, it will be a massive boost for the rep and credibility of TVR. Audi and Porsche don't race at Le Mans just for fun. Consumers that don't care about Le Mans and motor sport buy Volvos, Vauxhall and mainstream cars. Enthusiasts buy Ferrari, Porsche and TVR!Tvr Power said:
Vixpy1 said:
Tvr Power said:
igiveup said:
Tvr Power said:
Its a Ford 5.00 quad cam im sure, the Coyote engine.
Dom
Dom is correctDom
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/tvr-fir...
Dom
Dom
essexstu said:
of course consumers care. Its all about reputation, image and association with success in motor sport. Do you think McLaren road cars would be as successful if it wasn't for their Formula 1 background? If (when) TVR race at Le Mans in 2018 and finish it hopefully on the podium in their class, it will be a massive boost for the rep and credibility of TVR. Audi and Porsche don't race at Le Mans just for fun. Consumers that don't care about Le Mans and motor sport buy Volvos, Vauxhall and mainstream cars. Enthusiasts buy Ferrari, Porsche and TVR!
Not always true, I don't give a toss about le mans, f1 or anything that just goes round in circles. I want to see the road car too !HarryW said:
It would be really good to know what Cosworth are actually doing with it.
1. adding a brand that will greatly help sell £100k+ cars to new brand enthusiasts. 2. locking out the aftermarket tuners as best as possible so as to secure that revenue stream internally to support the business.
Fewer journos are going to make snide remarks about Cosworth in contrast to how b
hy a lot of them would be if it were 'just' a Ford. It stamps a British flag and heritage on a U.S. product.
HarryW said:
I suppose a telling point was in the video it was commented that it made over 500, that was a torque figure in Nm which if it was at or around 500Nm equates to arouind 370lbs, which is what a base crate Coyote makes.
Strange that the standard ford torque figures would have surprised them and the dyno? Not doubting your maths (no way it could be 500lbs!). Gazzab said:
HarryW said:
I suppose a telling point was in the video it was commented that it made over 500, that was a torque figure in Nm which if it was at or around 500Nm equates to arouind 370lbs, which is what a base crate Coyote makes.
Strange that the standard ford torque figures would have surprised them and the dyno? Not doubting your maths (no way it could be 500lbs!). V8 GRF said:
Gazzab said:
HarryW said:
I suppose a telling point was in the video it was commented that it made over 500, that was a torque figure in Nm which if it was at or around 500Nm equates to arouind 370lbs, which is what a base crate Coyote makes.
Strange that the standard ford torque figures would have surprised them and the dyno? Not doubting your maths (no way it could be 500lbs!). Gassing Station | General TVR Stuff & Gossip | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff