New TVR update

[m4tti]

Tvr Power said:

DonkeyApple lad yes ive made my own bed and boy i sleep very very well.. its a simple question why wont Tvr show the real McCoy opposed to virtual designs altered 1 yr later with 10 profile tyres and cheesy wheels, maybe im missing something here.....


Dom

Because they won't be using a funding model like ford. I know through the grape vine that they have raised money in the city so there may be stipulations or obligations they have to meet before the next level of funding is released.

This isn't just an engine upgrade you know

Edited by m4tti on Wednesday 23 December 12:34

[FarmyardPants]

Are those side-exiting exhausts behind the front wheels or just bling?

[m4tti]

FarmyardPants said:

Are those side-exiting exhausts behind the front wheels or just bling?

Presumably Side exit as their design brief was a flat bottomed car.

[FarmyardPants]

m4tti said:

FarmyardPants said:

Are those side-exiting exhausts behind the front wheels or just bling?

Presumably Side exit as their design brief was a flat bottomed car.

They make the rocking world go round

[N7GTX]

DonkeyApple said:

Tvr Power said:

DonkeyApple said:

Tvr Power said:

Ford gt are releasing there new car in 2017 why can't TVR do this in real format and not a virtual rendering designed by AutoCar...

Dom

Give it a rest Dom. You've made your bed.

DonkeyApple lad yes ive made my own bed and boy i sleep very very well.. its a simple question why wont Tvr show the real McCoy opposed to virtual designs altered 1 yr later with 10 profile tyres and cheesy wheels, maybe im missing something here.....


Dom

Then why don't you stop bhing and sniping like some old queen. For someone 'who sleeps well' you don't half mince about whinging, insinuating and generally displaying all the characteristics of a child whose toys are out of the pram.

Please do usme a favour in 2016 and focus on keeping your business going and worrying less about something that has absolutely nothing to do with you and really never did.

Happy Christmas.

I've corrected your assumption that you somehow seem to believe you represent all TVR people on PH?
Your views certainly do not represent mine.
Thank you.

[Griffithy]

N7GTX said:

I've corrected your assumption that you somehow seem to believe you represent all TVR people on PH?
Your views certainly do not represent mine.
Thank you.

Will be a good 10% off your next rebuilt I guess

[KSV]

How can you ever compare Ford's resources to that of a new company starting from scratch and expect them to deliver a car in a real format. FMC's resources are vast not only when it comes to funding but also R&D, Marketing etc.

[DonkeyApple]

N7GTX said:

DonkeyApple said:

Tvr Power said:

DonkeyApple said:

Tvr Power said:

Ford gt are releasing there new car in 2017 why can't TVR do this in real format and not a virtual rendering designed by AutoCar...

Dom

Give it a rest Dom. You've made your bed.

DonkeyApple lad yes ive made my own bed and boy i sleep very very well.. its a simple question why wont Tvr show the real McCoy opposed to virtual designs altered 1 yr later with 10 profile tyres and cheesy wheels, maybe im missing something here.....


Dom

Then why don't you stop bhing and sniping like some old queen. For someone 'who sleeps well' you don't half mince about whinging, insinuating and generally displaying all the characteristics of a child whose toys are out of the pram.

Please do usme a favour in 2016 and focus on keeping your business going and worrying less about something that has absolutely nothing to do with you and really never did.

Happy Christmas.

I've corrected your assumption that you somehow seem to believe you represent all TVR people on PH?
Your views certainly do not represent mine.
Thank you.

ok.

[FarmyardPants]

Tvr Power said:

Ford gt are releasing there new car in 2017 why can't TVR do this in real format and not a virtual rendering designed by AutoCar...

Dom

This is probably because that is the finished article from a visual standpoint. Whilst Les could probably show us some clay models, whatever they have are works in progress. IMO the styling is the most difficult aspect of the whole enterprise. There's no point making interim designs public, which could only court needless controversy.

Having said that, the side profile they've released is "ok" but personally I think they could go a bit more radical with the styling, it looks a bit too "same again", like an updated T350. I hope they go a bit more towards a wider, lower and altogether more aggressive look.

Do we know if the body is going to be steel panels or GRP?

[FarmyardPants]

Ok you can't tell the width but what I mean is something more...'mean' and less 'pretty'

[unrepentant]

Meanwhile, these are actual images of my actual magic beans!

[wanacoop]

Can anyone please get up a profile pic of the autocar mockup, and post it below a pic of the latest offering?
I'm useless at that sort of stuff!

It would be interesting to compare.

[HarryW]

unrepentant said:

Meanwhile, these are actual images of my actual magic beans!

Wow how much for them, thinking about it I better ask my mum first.

[XK120FHC]

It's just the AutoCar rendering but with horrible wheels.
As with all AutoCar renderings I doubt the real thing will look much like that.
I'm guessing TVR are not ready to show us how it will look yet.
Not sure why people are saying it looks good, it looks all out of proportion to me, the bonnet is too short, the roof line is too high and it doesn't flow into the rear properly, AutoCar never were any good at designing cars.
Even the two views done by AutoCar don't look like the same car.

[chris watton]

XK120FHC said:

It's just the AutoCar rendering but with horrible wheels.
As with all AutoCar renderings I doubt the real thing will look much like that.
I'm guessing TVR are not ready to show us how it will look yet.
Not sure why people are saying it looks good, it looks all out of proportion to me, the bonnet is too short, the roof line is too high and it doesn't flow into the rear properly, AutoCar never were any good at designing cars.
Even the two views done by AutoCar don't look like the same car.

Then I do not understand why TVR used the top image in their update for customers who have paid a deposit - why would they do that if it wasn't what the car looked like?

ETA Unless they really haven't got anything solid as yet, and thought, st, we promised an update before the New Year and we have sweet FA, I know, let's use that Autocar rendering and draw in some silly wheels by someone who clearly hasn't gone to art school, that'll help keep 'em quit for a while...

Edited by chris watton on Wednesday 23 December 17:15

[Tvr Power]

DonkeyApple said:

N7GTX said:

DonkeyApple said:

Tvr Power said:

DonkeyApple said:

Tvr Power said:

Ford gt are releasing there new car in 2017 why can't TVR do this in real format and not a virtual rendering designed by AutoCar...

Dom

Give it a rest Dom. You've made your bed.

DonkeyApple lad yes ive made my own bed and boy i sleep very very well.. its a simple question why wont Tvr show the real McCoy opposed to virtual designs altered 1 yr later with 10 profile tyres and cheesy wheels, maybe im missing something here.....


Dom

Then why don't you stop bhing and sniping like some old queen. For someone 'who sleeps well' you don't half mince about whinging, insinuating and generally displaying all the characteristics of a child whose toys are out of the pram.

Please do usme a favour in 2016 and focus on keeping your business going and worrying less about something that has absolutely nothing to do with you and really never did.

Happy Christmas.

I've corrected your assumption that you somehow seem to believe you represent all TVR people on PH?
Your views certainly do not represent mine.
Thank you.

ok.

Well that told me, if this is the response of a legitimate question i'll stick to fishing

Merry Christmas from all the Power Team

[wanacoop]

Cheers XK120FHC for getting the pictures up!

[mattus]

Well, I'm taking delivery of my new V8 Coyote Mustang tomorrow ....and I live in Northampton. I'm going to drive round and round the Cosworth site , wearing my TVR baseball cap and TVR shirt and 'my other car is a TVR (Tuscan) sticker' in the rear window ...and see if I can get thru' the gatehouse ..

I've also placed a deposit for the new TVR ...and like the style/content of the email updates from Les and TVR. Looking forward to the real car though ....

have fun
Matt

[MrChips]

KSV said:

How can you ever compare Ford's resources to that of a new company starting from scratch and expect them to deliver a car in a real format. FMC's resources are vast not only when it comes to funding but also R&D, Marketing etc.

You can't, but both of them will need to go through most of the same design/test/build processes in order to bring a car to market, including whatever homologation method Les is planning to use.
If FMC have a fully built, functioning mule that's already 99% finalised in terms of design, but they still need another year and a half until they feel comfortable launching it, then why would TVR be able to do it any quicker?

Certainly there are some advantages to being a smaller company, so you might think that it would take them less time to make changes/tweaks to the design but anyone involved with car manufacturing will be able to confirm that it doesn't take the mainstream manufacturers that long either, sometimes within 48hrs they'll have a different process or part on test, and signed off within a week.

Donkeyapples point about the iStream process is valid, in that it claims to offer vastly improved set up times, however my sceptical mind still thinks if it was that good, it would have already been used elsewhere, and the whole thing comes across as slightly dumbed down marketing aiming to show that you can have one base platform and build several models with it.
I can't think of any manufacturer that doesn't already do that. Even some MINIs share a platform with some BMWs in order to reduce complexity and investment costs.

For what it's worth, i like the grey rendering, and there are some obvious changes/improvements compared to the original orange autocar images.

Edited by MrChips on Wednesday 23 December 20:34

[RichB]

MrChips said:

i like the grey rendering, and there are some obvious changes/improvements compared to the original orange autocar images.