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The rumors have began there's talk what if the new tvr is better and faster as they are renowned for their veracity for speed will it be an advanced machine with a future to progress to new technological boundaries and stay above the competitors or will it be another sell off we will just have to wait and see .
My dad thinks that Manchester United are the best team that are out there and - well - if they are? I mean will that mean that no-one supports any other team? Wouldn't that mean that the whole football thing would fall apart and no-one else would be able to continue being a team? What if they aren't? Who would want to support them if they aren't the best team? Wouldn't that mean that they have no future?
Wouldn't it be nice if people actually had an unmeasurable / unquantifiable / emotional choice in things that wasn't based on some arbitrarily allocated set of measurable criteria to determine which is 'best'?
Wonder what car I should buy to replace my Chim with because I can't think of any possible measurement that could be applied to it where it would come out 'better' than anything else that's out there so I guess I'd best get rid then ...
.. oh, other than "Which car 'floats my boat' more than any other car on the planet and which car will I defend to the bitter end whilst still fully acknowledging that it is full of flaws, embracing each and every one of them in the same way that I would flaws in one of my own kids"*
Phil
(* if I had any.)
Wouldn't it be nice if people actually had an unmeasurable / unquantifiable / emotional choice in things that wasn't based on some arbitrarily allocated set of measurable criteria to determine which is 'best'?
Wonder what car I should buy to replace my Chim with because I can't think of any possible measurement that could be applied to it where it would come out 'better' than anything else that's out there so I guess I'd best get rid then ...
.. oh, other than "Which car 'floats my boat' more than any other car on the planet and which car will I defend to the bitter end whilst still fully acknowledging that it is full of flaws, embracing each and every one of them in the same way that I would flaws in one of my own kids"*
Phil
(* if I had any.)
OK - shall we see if we can interpret this stream of unpunctuated verbiage...
The new owner (Les Edgar) has some decent financial weight behind him as well as some good names behind him too so he looks like he's going to have a damn good stab at making a go of it - he has taken deposits and identified an engine that he intends to use, there are artists impressions of what the car might look like but nothing firm on what it is going to look like or what functionality it will have.
If however you are suggesting that there are new rumours then perhaps you can fill us in on which specific rumour(s) you are talking about as there are always going to be lots of them ... I heard that Les had bought a dog to help him style the bodywork for the new car.
Phil
gary58 said:
The rumors have began
From your spelling of rumour I'll presume that you are American and so might not be up to speed on developments in the TVR story - the rumours *BEGAN* a couple of years ago with the purchase of TVR from the existing Russian owner who has the dubious accolade of being known as the man who killed TVR but it can also be said (justifiably I think) that he was sold a lame duck and that no matter what happened TVR were pretty much shafted at that point in time in the form that they were in.The new owner (Les Edgar) has some decent financial weight behind him as well as some good names behind him too so he looks like he's going to have a damn good stab at making a go of it - he has taken deposits and identified an engine that he intends to use, there are artists impressions of what the car might look like but nothing firm on what it is going to look like or what functionality it will have.
If however you are suggesting that there are new rumours then perhaps you can fill us in on which specific rumour(s) you are talking about as there are always going to be lots of them ... I heard that Les had bought a dog to help him style the bodywork for the new car.
gary58 said:
there's talk what if the new tvr is better and faster
...better and faster than what? I certainly hope that it's better and faster than previous TVRs!gary58 said:
as they are renowned for their veracity for speed
I thought they were renowned for unreliability, trying to kill their owners, for being loud, lairy and uncouth ... but then again if you're American then they probably seem bloody fast too! gary58 said:
will it be an advanced machine
...advanced compared to what? I certainly hope that it's more advanced than previous TVRs but then again it's going to be using a crate US V8 rather than a home spun AJPalike so does that count as more advanced or not.gary58 said:
with a future to progress to new technological boundaries
This is a general trend of the future...gary58 said:
and stay above the competitors
What would be your definition or criteria here...?gary58 said:
or will it be another sell off
I suspect Les Edgar, his business partners and employees and the people who plomped down a deposit are all hoping not - as are the rest of us here...gary58 said:
we will just have to wait and see.
Ahha! - In the light of any specific information as to what you were actually referring to or asking then that sounds like you've answered your own question...Phil
gary58 said:
Those of you who are of real competition and possibly have owned previously a car or cars made outside the uk should know to well with or without consciousness that the technology is better than what was built in the uk and as for being american VENOM.
OK ... If you're looking for a technological tour de force then you want a Tesla or a Nissan GTR - the new TVR is (IMO) extremely unlikely to be a conspicuous display of technological 'bling' ... Personally I'd expect it to be about as technologically advanced as a Noble or Ariel.I still really don't have a clue what you are actually trying to get to here ... If you can explain your actual question a bit better then I'm sure we'll try to answer you as best we can...
Phil
gary58 said:
Speed man
Yes ... It will be the fastest car ever, in fact you will be able to upgrade its speed once a year with free software / hardware updates to ensure it remains faster than any other car on the planet including Thrust SSC (another British car by the way).The real answer is "Who knows?" ... it doesn't exist in any physical form yet so no-one knows... (...and in reality who *ACTUALLY* cares whether it is the fastest car out there?)
Given that it is penciled in at around £70,000 (from what I remember) then it's hardly a high end hypercar and I doubt that anyone is realistically expecting it to tickle the tonsils of 200mph so all the desktop Senna's whose first question is "How fast does it go?" when they see a car can wander off and flagellate themselves into a creamy fury over some other piece of eyecandy.
Phil
I'm with Qbee and Phil,
Is a faster car better? For me a better TVR would have to mean better British handbuiltness, better British inhouse engine keeping its quirkiness while still going fast. And above all make me feel the way my cerbera does from opening the doors, getting in and start up procedure. That's all before the whole warm up process.
Do any modern cars offer that? Legislation slowly eroded many things so maybe I like the primitivel feel and for me that's why I love TVR... So will the new one be better? Don't think it's ticking any of those boxes??
And no I'm not an old and grumpy man, at 32 I just appreciate the connection with the car from regular fluid checks, to pimping up.
Is a faster car better? For me a better TVR would have to mean better British handbuiltness, better British inhouse engine keeping its quirkiness while still going fast. And above all make me feel the way my cerbera does from opening the doors, getting in and start up procedure. That's all before the whole warm up process.
Do any modern cars offer that? Legislation slowly eroded many things so maybe I like the primitivel feel and for me that's why I love TVR... So will the new one be better? Don't think it's ticking any of those boxes??
And no I'm not an old and grumpy man, at 32 I just appreciate the connection with the car from regular fluid checks, to pimping up.
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