New TVR still under wraps!

New TVR still under wraps!

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stopingby

37 posts

218 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Number 7 said:
...As for the car parking at a school, this is contrary to the late December announcement about plenty of parking at GMD, encouraging people to bring their TVR, official photo opportunity etc.
yeap !

I noticed it too and i dont like it. it does not make me feel like some one is in control....

HarryW

15,157 posts

270 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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stopingby said:
Number 7 said:
...As for the car parking at a school, this is contrary to the late December announcement about plenty of parking at GMD, encouraging people to bring their TVR, official photo opportunity etc.
yeap !

I noticed it too and i dont like it. it does not make me feel like some one is in control....
Yep, they can fk that for a game of soldiers, plenty of parking around the units there or the pub at the end if the road.

bluezeeland

1,965 posts

160 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Apart from parking/security ..............the engine will be a 5.0 V8 Coyote (they said) the G/B will be a TKO 600 (they said) they have a body + interior (they tell us now), so...........why not put them together ? Go on, 10 days to go, get out the spanners TVR mechanics !

Andy_mr2sc

1,223 posts

177 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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At what point do the dipositeers have to commit to a purchase and not get their deposit back?
Is it when they see this model or when they can sit in and drive the actual car?

RedSpike66

2,336 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Andy_mr2sc said:
At what point do the dipositeers have to commit to a purchase and not get their deposit back?
Is it when they see this model or when they can sit in and drive the actual car?
If they can't provide you with one to drive, they can't possibly expect you to sign a legally binding purchase order ? I would expect they would get nearly 100% refusal !!!!

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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If there are drawings and specification it would be like buying a house off-plan

unrepentant

21,284 posts

257 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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PowersPerformance said:
So they have an exterior clay model and a interior foam model = no actual car !

Wake up and smell the coffee Mr edgar do you really know how much it costs to actually develop a real car...

Dom
Their accounts are interesting...

bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

92 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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stopingby said:
yeap !

I noticed it too and i dont like it. it does not make me feel like some one is in control....
I fail to see how a change in the parking procedure is a good proxy for the project status !?

G1ABB

857 posts

205 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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unrepentant said:
Their accounts are interesting...
More than one company by the look of it. Couldn't see anything out of the ordinary though. You can pretty much figure out what was paid for the TVR name (I think). Other figures are probably a combination of investments and deposits etc. Not entirely clear about the goodwill valuation in certain respects but is this just development costs. I was expecting to see 100% write off of investment but I'm out of date on such matters from a reporting point of view.



Andy_mr2sc

1,223 posts

177 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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RedSpike66 said:
Andy_mr2sc said:
At what point do the dipositeers have to commit to a purchase and not get their deposit back?
Is it when they see this model or when they can sit in and drive the actual car?
If they can't provide you with one to drive, they can't possibly expect you to sign a legally binding purchase order ? I would expect they would get nearly 100% refusal !!!!
That is what I was wondering. I remember (I think on this thread) there being a cut off point. It would be a big ask for people to commit without seeing a completed car. I guess as part of their agreement it must be in writing somewhere.

christof

882 posts

285 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Look what Fittipaldi and his first class partners have created. Not sure how long they've worked on this, but this thing is a beautie and also comes with its own engine developed by AMG.

https://www.motorsport.com/automotive/news/emerson...

Edited by christof on Wednesday 8th March 09:18

DonkeyApple

55,572 posts

170 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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christof said:
Look what Fittipaldi and his first class partners have created. Not sure how long they've worked on this, but this thing is a beautie and also comes with its own engine developed by AMG.

https://www.motorsport.com/automotive/news/emerson...

Edited by christof on Wednesday 8th March 09:18
It certainly does show what can be done when it comes to delivering an affordable sports car for the road.

bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

92 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Andy_mr2sc said:
That is what I was wondering. I remember (I think on this thread) there being a cut off point. It would be a big ask for people to commit without seeing a completed car. I guess as part of their agreement it must be in writing somewhere.
I guess we are going to see a completed car (model), not runnable though. I don't care if it has an engine in or transmission built-in on the reveal as we are not going to drive it there and it definitely WILL have those when it is finally going to be delivered. If they had everything in place, then why push a public reveal to later this year ?

As for being able to drive one before you commit, that's realistically not going to happen imho. At least not for the deposit holders as it would be a huge organizational effort to get that done. It would also mean having no finalized orders before production begins which would impact supply-chain etc. If that is a showstopper for people, they would have to pull their deposits and wait until reviews/tests/testdrives are publicly available and get back in the queue then. This is risk-free and i can understand if some decide to step back and wait. Committing is the only way to get the launch edition, though.

All in all they should be aware of all this and do their best to make sure that buyers can make an informed decision. I also expect the immediate feedback they get during the reveal to have an impact on the cut-off point. If the majority threatens to pull their deposits due to incomplete information, they sure will rethink their strategy. If all is good, which i hope, they will follow their plan. Anything else would not really make sense economically. As for the delays, it's not unheard of that projects of this size suffer from the occasional delay wink

bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

92 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
It certainly does show what can be done when it comes to delivering an affordable sports car for the road.
No european public roads, though wink or did i get that wrong ?

rev-erend

21,428 posts

285 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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christof said:
Look what Fittipaldi and his first class partners have created. Not sure how long they've worked on this, but this thing is a beautie and also comes with its own engine developed by AMG.

https://www.motorsport.com/automotive/news/emerson...

Edited by christof on Wednesday 8th March 09:18
Wow that looks spectacular.

m4tti

5,427 posts

156 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
It certainly does show what can be done when it comes to delivering an affordable sports car for the road.
Is there a price mentioned.. Pinifarinia and a 600bhp NA bespoke engine probably don't equal affordable..

Squirrelofwoe

3,184 posts

177 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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m4tti said:
DonkeyApple said:
It certainly does show what can be done when it comes to delivering an affordable sports car for the road.
Is there a price mentioned.. Pinifarinia and a 600bhp NA bespoke engine probably don't equal affordable..
I could be wrong but I read DA's reply to be deliberately tongue-in-cheek, on the basis that car looks like an extremely expensive track-day special...

rev-erend

21,428 posts

285 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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m4tti said:
DonkeyApple said:
It certainly does show what can be done when it comes to delivering an affordable sports car for the road.
Is there a price mentioned.. Pinifarinia and a 600bhp NA bespoke engine probably don't equal affordable..
I think he was probably taking the p155.

Andy_mr2sc

1,223 posts

177 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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bullittmcqueen said:
Andy_mr2sc said:
That is what I was wondering. I remember (I think on this thread) there being a cut off point. It would be a big ask for people to commit without seeing a completed car. I guess as part of their agreement it must be in writing somewhere.
I guess we are going to see a completed car (model), not runnable though. I don't care if it has an engine in or transmission built-in on the reveal as we are not going to drive it there and it definitely WILL have those when it is finally going to be delivered. If they had everything in place, then why push a public reveal to later this year ?

As for being able to drive one before you commit, that's realistically not going to happen imho. At least not for the deposit holders as it would be a huge organizational effort to get that done. It would also mean having no finalized orders before production begins which would impact supply-chain etc. If that is a showstopper for people, they would have to pull their deposits and wait until reviews/tests/testdrives are publicly available and get back in the queue then. This is risk-free and i can understand if some decide to step back and wait. Committing is the only way to get the launch edition, though.

All in all they should be aware of all this and do their best to make sure that buyers can make an informed decision. I also expect the immediate feedback they get during the reveal to have an impact on the cut-off point. If the majority threatens to pull their deposits due to incomplete information, they sure will rethink their strategy. If all is good, which i hope, they will follow their plan. Anything else would not really make sense economically. As for the delays, it's not unheard of that projects of this size suffer from the occasional delay wink
Apologies I didn't mean that to sound negative. If the numbers are as good as they are suggesting (and apart from the final price I can't see why they shouldn't be) I'm sure it'll be a good tool. I was just thinking that's a huge trust if you have to commit your deposit after seeing this mock up before at least seeing a finished car. It's a very shrewd move though because if they get bad feedback it won't be too late to modify before making the finished model for general press and public release.
Maybe on the day(s) there'll be some pleasant surprises that haven't been revealed yet....

bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

92 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Andy_mr2sc said:
Apologies I didn't mean that to sound negative. If the numbers are as good as they are suggesting (and apart from the final price I can't see why they shouldn't be) I'm sure it'll be a good tool. I was just thinking that's a huge trust if you have to commit your deposit after seeing this mock up before at least seeing a finished car. It's a very shrewd move though because if they get bad feedback it won't be too late to modify before making the finished model for general press and public release.
Maybe on the day(s) there'll be some pleasant surprises that haven't been revealed yet....
Sorry, my bad, not a native speaker. No offense taken. You are right, it will depend on overall impression and presentation how it's going to work out. Something under wraps will not suffice smile But Les wrote that during the public reveal one will at least be able to hear it and see it drive. It's my unfounded impression that they will postpone final commit-cut off til then.
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