New TVR still under wraps!

New TVR still under wraps!

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S6 ROR

1,583 posts

265 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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I thought they said that there wasn't going to be a car at the Show?
So, didn't bother applying for the tickets.
Must admit, haven't really kept abreast of developments, but they said that there were going to make some announcements over the three days.
So, is a car going to be unveiled?

Turquoise

1,457 posts

97 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Silvernoble883 said:
Turquoise said:
Silvernoble883 said:
Turquoise said:
Silvernoble883 said:
Looks a bit American corvette frown was hoping for something more Italian looking like a 488.
Why? And seeing as a 488 is mid engined, how?
Horrible long bonnet, looking at the later Tvrs you could almost call them mid engined when you see where the engine actually sits.
That just doesn't make sense.

Regardless of how far back the engine sits they are still front engined.
All TVR's have had long bonnets, why is it a bad thing for this one?
No TVR has ever looked mid engined!

You haven't answered my original questions either.

Why would you want a TVR to look like a Ferrari?
And how can you ever expect it to, with it being front engined not being mid engined?
Owned a new Sagaris, I would say that didn't have a horrible long bonnet, didn't say look like a Ferrari I said Italian looking, can't think of anything worse than a American looking car.
The sagaris/T350 were definitely long bonnet/short tail cars. They were compact but I'm not sure how you could say they had short bonnets. There's no such thing as an American or Italian looking car either really IMO.

As for the new one, the proportions are exactly as everyone expected. The devil will be in the details, as with most small volume cars. That pic with the tight black cover shows its running massive wheels which will certainly give it kerbside appeal.

Looking forward to the unveiling.

Silvernoble883

249 posts

96 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Turquoise said:
Silvernoble883 said:
Turquoise said:
Silvernoble883 said:
Turquoise said:
Silvernoble883 said:
Looks a bit American corvette frown was hoping for something more Italian looking like a 488.
Why? And seeing as a 488 is mid engined, how?
Horrible long bonnet, looking at the later Tvrs you could almost call them mid engined when you see where the engine actually sits.
That just doesn't make sense.

Regardless of how far back the engine sits they are still front engined.
All TVR's have had long bonnets, why is it a bad thing for this one?
No TVR has ever looked mid engined!

You haven't answered my original questions either.

Why would you want a TVR to look like a Ferrari?
And how can you ever expect it to, with it being front engined not being mid engined?
Owned a new Sagaris, I would say that didn't have a horrible long bonnet, didn't say look like a Ferrari I said Italian looking, can't think of anything worse than a American looking car.
The sagaris/T350 were definitely long bonnet/short tail cars. They were compact but I'm not sure how you could say they had short bonnets. There's no such thing as an American or Italian looking car either really IMO.

As for the new one, the proportions are exactly as everyone expected. The devil will be in the details, as with most small volume cars. That pic with the tight black cover shows its running massive wheels which will certainly give it kerbside appeal.

Looking forward to the unveiling.
Me as well but don't agree with you on how cars look, British and Italian sports cars on the whole look fantastic, American and Japanese sports cars on the whole look crap IMO.

BJWoods

5,015 posts

284 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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It 'looks' promising, have you seen the youtube vid of the graphic..

BUT,Launch Edition - "TVR owner Les Edgar says it will be "sub-£100,000".

Autocar:
"The car will use a Cosworth V8 that has been engineered to produce ample mid-range torque and more than 400bhp. It's expected to be capable of accelerating to 60mph in less than four seconds, and will be priced from about £65,000, though the launch car will be a special edition priced considerably higher than the regular car which follows; TVR owner Les Edgar says it will be "sub-£100,000".

I was down for an LE, over 70K - can't

V8 GMS

727 posts

215 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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I'm impressed - think it's awesome that TVR have got a car (or a mock up) at the show. Credit where it's due!!!

Please can ALL the 'expert car designers' hold off critiquing the design before you've even seen it.

DonkeyApple

55,271 posts

169 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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If they are doing a reveal then they are going to ensure almost all the press coverage of the event is about them as I don't believe there is anything else particular special at the show.

Andrew Gray

4,969 posts

149 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Silvernoble883 said:
The best looking out of them 3 is the old Tuscan.
Sorry the early Vixen is still the best
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Edited by Andrew Gray on Thursday 5th May 21:53

Daggsy

892 posts

252 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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S6 ROR said:
I thought they said that there wasn't going to be a car at the Show?
So, didn't bother applying for the tickets.
Must admit, haven't really kept abreast of developments, but they said that there were going to make some announcements over the three days.
So, is a car going to be unveiled?
Just like me Nigel you seem to be 'In The Wrong Lodge' with regard to TVR / TVRCC information.
After all, you have only paid your deposit .. AND.. bought NEW TVR's in the past.

Hope to catch up soon.

We are off to Cornwall at the end of the month for our new delivery !!!

ArisK

24 posts

168 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Looks a lot an F-Type. At least in it's profile. It seems that design would be really interesting and I do love the short tail/long bonnet combination.

smithyithy

7,245 posts

118 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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Can't wait to see it on Saturday biggrin

DonkeyApple

55,271 posts

169 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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Are we to assume that the new car is to be called a Tuscan then? I take it that's the point of the image?

Boatbuoy

1,941 posts

162 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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Moycie said:
It's all positive so far. Here's a picture without the silver cover, from twitter.

I can't wait to see it in the flesh. Evolution of T350/T440/Typhon as I hoped.

One of the most interesting hints (for me) is in the cutaway rendering on the wall in the background (below the TV screen). It shows the surface language quite well, and leads me to think that the square bonnet vent/feature shown in the triple Tuscan tape drawing (video) is a red herring. That's far too clumsy to be - in my professional opinion - on what is an otherwise well resolved 3D form. I also suspect that the tape drawing suggests a flatter bonnet than that of the car beneath the black cover. The front wings look nice and 'tight' and the side highlight in the profile render suggests some very clean but curvasious surfacing.

Can't wait to see it now.

HarryW

15,150 posts

269 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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DonkeyApple said:
Are we to assume that the new car is to be called a Tuscan then? I take it that's the point of the image?
It would appear so, although I'd prefer Griffith...

fatbutt

2,654 posts

264 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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The sketch looks like its carried over a lot of the last TVR 'typhoon' concept details:



I like what I'm seeing.

Note: Curious why there is no mention of this on PH's front page!

HarryW

15,150 posts

269 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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Boatbuoy said:
Moycie said:
It's all positive so far. Here's a picture without the silver cover, from twitter.

I can't wait to see it in the flesh. Evolution of T350/T440/Typhon as I hoped.

One of the most interesting hints (for me) is in the cutaway rendering on the wall in the background (below the TV screen). It shows the surface language quite well, and leads me to think that the square bonnet vent/feature shown in the triple Tuscan tape drawing (video) is a red herring. That's far too clumsy to be - in my professional opinion - on what is an otherwise well resolved 3D form. I also suspect that the tape drawing suggests a flatter bonnet than that of the car beneath the black cover. The front wings look nice and 'tight' and the side highlight in the profile render suggests some very clean but curvasious surfacing.

Can't wait to see it now.
Agree, my initial impression drawn from the tape drawing was not a good one! Deliberately misleading? I doubt so.
The brown cover along with the red outline picture show a much more resolved design, whilst they have yet to do the customer clinics to iron out the detail, I would have liked them to reveal what they have now. As would the press!
There is a fair amount of ridicule by not doing a full reveal on a press day where they have the worlds press lapping up every word and image. I hope the promise of a increasing reveal over the show period amounts to something more tangible by the end of the day. Can't help but think they might have missed a trick though.
I'm down to visit on Sunday but given the lack of any real detail, such as wheelbase/track/length//height, how Cosworth are doing with the engine let alone the overall look. Add to that rail works my end of the journey, so I'll have to drive into the big smoke and the extra hot BBQ weather I may not give up a precious day of my weekend, and I'm a deposit holder.......

zooooom

1,310 posts

260 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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According to Autocar
The new car may take the Griffith name of forbears from the 1960s and 1990s

DonkeyApple

55,271 posts

169 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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HarryW said:
DonkeyApple said:
Are we to assume that the new car is to be called a Tuscan then? I take it that's the point of the image?
It would appear so, although I'd prefer Griffith...
It'll be interesting to find out. I think that Tuscan is the more 'TVR' name as although the second Griff was probably the most iconic of all TVRs in terms of brand recognition, the original was more a US creation in its roots whereas Tuscan is a brand that is as old but is pure TVR and the name of the iconic racers as well as the Le Mans cars and the last big seller for the road cars. It would also leave the Griffith name open for later use on a more expensive model?

DonkeyApple

55,271 posts

169 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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zooooom said:
According to Autocar
The new car may take the Griffith name of forbears from the 1960s and 1990s
They are also saying that what is under the cover is just a clay Buck and won't be revealed, which I hadn't appreciated.

At least Les has found a new jacket.

pb450

1,303 posts

160 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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Moycie said:
It's all positive so far. Here's a picture without the silver cover, from twitter.

I can't wait to see it in the flesh. Evolution of T350/T440/Typhon as I hoped.

That's a great 'reveal' Aaron. (Good to meet you last weekend too, by the way.) Quietly excited about this as the overall proportions look completely right to me. Any design will have its critics and you'll never appeal to all with anything. That's the beauty of individuality. I reckon it looks good though and I'll be VERY excited to see an owned one up close at a local meet!!! bounce

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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DonkeyApple said:
They are also saying that what is under the cover is just a clay Buck and won't be revealed, which I hadn't appreciated.

At least Les has found a new jacket.
I guess this is a decent indication that the 2017 delivery date will slip.

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