Jensons future

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slipstream 1985

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12,211 posts

179 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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What is he going to do? If it were me I would be offering my service free to ferrari for one last shot at glory.

Fire99

9,844 posts

229 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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With McLaren's recent pace being more inline with Wacky-Races, it's hard to work out just how consistently quick J.B is in 2016. It's a tough sell against some very fast young lads coming up through the ranks.

Ozone

3,043 posts

187 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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slipstream 1985 said:
What is he going to do? If it were me I would be offering my service free to ferrari for one last shot at glory.
Only if the glory is to be second to Vettel.

Vettel's contract probably specifies that he gets a veto who is in the other car and their role.

m444ttb

3,160 posts

229 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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I can't think McLaren will retain him despite his commercial appeal. Depends on their contractual situation with SvD I suppose. I like the idea of him at Williams to bring his career to a close, but mostly for sentimental reasons. I have a feeling Williams may slip down the order a little further next season, but hope I'm wrong. Ferrari with JB would be great also, but again I cant see that happening.

FourWheelDrift

88,486 posts

284 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Current 2017 lineup, lots of empty seats

Team Driver 1 Driver 2
Ferrari Vettel TBA
Force India Hulkenberg TBA
Haas TBA TBA
Manor TBA TBA
Mclaren Alonso TBA
Mercedes Hamilton TBA
Red Bull Ricciardo Verstappen
Torro Rosso Sainz TBA
Williams TBA TBA

Steamer

13,856 posts

213 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Although Jenson and Lewis had a fairly harmonious time when they were team mates didnt they?...

... Jenson in the Merc?... Never going to happen.. but...

LordGrover

33,538 posts

212 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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FourWheelDrift said:
Current 2017 lineup, lots of empty seats

Team Driver 1 Driver 2
Ferrari Vettel TBA
Force India Hulkenberg TBA
Haas TBA TBA
Manor TBA TBA
Mclaren Alonso TBA
Mercedes Hamilton TBA
Red Bull Ricciardo Verstappen
Torro Rosso Sainz TBA
Williams TBA TBA
A few there are unconfirmed rather than empty though, surely?

rsbmw

3,464 posts

105 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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I think JB would be a good option for both Ferrari and MB. A dependable #2 who will consistently bring the car home in a good position, won't challenge your #1 too hard whilst at the same time keeping them honest, and if they do end up wheel to wheel has the experience, skill and racecraft to keep it clean.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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rsbmw said:
I think JB would be a good option for both Ferrari and MB. A dependable #2 who will consistently bring the car home in a good position, won't challenge your #1 too hard whilst at the same time keeping them honest, and if they do end up wheel to wheel has the experience, skill and racecraft to keep it clean.
Dependable no.2?

He's out-scored every team mate he's had over his career. I think he's a bit more than a dependable no. 2!

HTP99

22,529 posts

140 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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I have always felt a bit sorry for Jenson; he has out scored every team mate that he has had, he gets on with it, he has great race craft, doesn't rock the boat, he can be relied upon, is awesome in the rain and changeable conditions and yet he just seems to be a bit un-loved amongst the top F1 bosses.

rsbmw

3,464 posts

105 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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He's not outscoring FA this season!

Typically he's out-scored through dependability and bringing the car home than through anything special, where his more 'flamboyant' team mate will be more prone to 'incidents'. You wouldn't see him as a real challenger to Vettel or Hamilton at the moment surely?

Teppic

7,344 posts

257 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Trabi601 said:
Dependable no.2?

He's out-scored every team mate he's had over his career.
Ralf Schumacher and Giancarlo Fisichella might have something to say about that.

boyse7en

6,712 posts

165 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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rsbmw said:
He's not outscoring FA this season!

Typically he's out-scored through dependability and bringing the car home than through anything special, where his more 'flamboyant' team mate will be more prone to 'incidents'. You wouldn't see him as a real challenger to Vettel or Hamilton at the moment surely?
Season's not over yet though.
And being dependable and bringing the car home are fine reasons to score points. "incidents" are expensive both in terms of lost constructors points as well as the actual cost of rebuilding cars.

He might challenge Vettel, he seems a bit prone to incidents at the moment.

rsbmw

3,464 posts

105 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Not disputing any of that, which is why I call him a dependable #2, not going to cause your lead driver too many problems on track but will be bagging the points and there or thereabouts if your lead driver is losing points for other reasons.

wibble cb

3,603 posts

207 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Shouldn't the title of the thread be 'Annual Jenson Button future thread...'??

He definitely still has something to offer, just that there are a few young' uns coming through now, I would like to see him in the Williams, esp over Massa.

tyranical

927 posts

190 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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I highly doubt Jenson will be at Mclaren next year, Mclaren can't afford to keep Vandoorne out of F1 for another season or Vandoorne will find someone else to take him next season and Mclaren wouldn't want that to happen.

For Jenson I think the only smart, and potentially realistic move for him is Williams. No other team makes sense, an opening at Williams is all but confirmed with the several hints dropped of Massa's overdue retirement from the sport, Ferrari wouldn't take him as they want someone young and upcoming, Red Bull/TR is a no go they stick to their own drivers and no other team makes sense unless he wants to spend his remaining races towards the rear of the field, maybe Force India as an outside chance but Williams is a far safer bet.

Drivers market is hinged on Raikkonen of all people - If Ferrari sign him up then the line up of Force India and Haas will likely remain as is and Bottas would remain at Williams which will also limit the movements in many of the other teams -If Ferrari let him go then one of those 4 would likely go to Ferrari, I can't see anyone else going there due to other commitments and the likely veto Vettel has on who his team mate is. Purely from an excitement perspective I'd love them to let Raikkonen go, it would mix up the driver line-up far more than it has done in the past decade if that happened and I don't think Raikkonen does enough these days to warrant a spot in one of the top 3 teams, if Ferrari were closer to Merc you couldn't rely on modern day Raikkonen to get you a good haul of points every race to challenge for the constructors championship and that is what Ferrari really need, someone good enough to bring home the points but not good enough to upset Vettel regularly.



Doink

1,652 posts

147 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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With Chris Evans leaving top gear I see Jensons name is linked again

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Doink said:
With Chris Evans leaving top gear I see Jensons name is linked again
Would be good, if say he replaced the Stig.

lee_fr200

5,477 posts

190 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Alonso or JB to merc
Rosberg or jb to Ferrari

Massa dropped
Kimi dropped
Kyvat dropped


I think Williams are waiting on jb they rly do want him back Claire williams has wanted him for the last 2yrs now!

If mclaren drop him after 2 yrs of driving that dog just as the car comes good I'd be dissapointed

But he's not with Jessica now so has his Japanese ties with Honda dried up a a little
And Vandoorne is waiting in the wings

In all fairness if I was mclaren Honda is be investing in sauber and sticking Vandoorne in there for a season to gain experience as I imagine mclaren is like a pressure cooker atm and I don't think he will deliver neither

And yes jb has out scored the likes of Hamilton and Alonso and let's be honest there's only 4 points in it now! When the cars good he's a bloody good racer he doesn't cost the team a lot in accidents and is very dependable

col68

250 posts

206 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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JB has had his day, won a world championship, safe pair of hands granted, but Williams need a young charger and neither Bottas or Massa fit that bill in my opinion.......the sport is overflowing with pay drivers in one way or another and that is the problem.