How to move a 700kg pallet down stairs and across grass

How to move a 700kg pallet down stairs and across grass

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sidekickdmr

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5,065 posts

205 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Hi,

See this thread, http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I had my Pizza oven delivered the other day, but I was hoping for a hiab van with a mini crane, however it turned up on a tail lift van with a hand pallet truck.

It weighs about 700kg, and it had 4 lifting points, one in each corner. Its currently on a pallet too. It's also a little fragile, so "bumping" it down the stairs wont help.



So it either has to go down a flight of about 8 steps and then across the lawn, or be lifted down the hill and across to the resting point.

It will also need to come to a rest ontop of the base, so moving it at ground level is out.

I looked into hiring a spider crane, HSS wanted £1650 laugh

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kiethton

13,883 posts

179 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Maybe some sheets of ply for the hill, plus an engine hoist and some chains? - should roll ok if on the ply with a few guys stopping it from rolling away from you?

BenWRXSEi

2,343 posts

133 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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kiethton said:
Maybe some sheets of ply for the hill, plus an engine hoist and some chains? - should roll ok if on the ply with a few guys stopping it from rolling away from you?
Or, find a mate with a towbar and rent a trailer with a long winch to lower it down the slope?

V8A*ndy

3,695 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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sidekickdmr said:
Hi,

but I was hoping for a hiab van with a mini crane,
Will one of these do the job?

If so local builders yard and drop the driver a few quid.

sidekickdmr

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205 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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kiethton said:
Maybe some sheets of ply for the hill, plus an engine hoist and some chains? - should roll ok if on the ply with a few guys stopping it from rolling away from you?
Not such a bad idea, I had looked at engine hoists but didnt think of ply, I think it would need a chain hoist/winch to lower it down the hill though, wouldnt want it to roll away from me doing it by hand, its a very steep hill lol

Thanks!

BenWRXSEi said:
Or, find a mate with a towbar and rent a trailer with a long winch to lower it down the slope?
doesnt help me move it or lift it once at the bottom of the hill though

V8A*ndy said:
Will one of these do the job?

If so local builders yard and drop the driver a few quid.
Issue is, aaccess is very tight, I had wicks delivery on the same day and their puny hiab lorry wouldnt fit around the corner on my drive.

eps

6,272 posts

268 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Hmm....

So have you got the base completed which the oven will sit on?

How far is the edge of the drop to the pizza oven or another support?

At a guess... You could use some rollers/bearers to move it to the edge of the drop,then you'll need something to support it from the edge to the base where it will end up. Either some acros or something - but you will need a few of you to make sure it doesn't fall and a fair few supports to make sure the load is adequately supported. Slowly and surely and safely of course!!

It will need some planning that's for sure!

GetCarter

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278 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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sidekickdmr

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205 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Anothewr idea I've just come up with

A telehandler and a chain hoist?



The telehandler can have the chain hoist attached to it and then extend out over the drop location, chain hoist lowers it down?


V8RX7

26,765 posts

262 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Would you get a 3T excavator through ?

My 1.7T machine can lift circa 600kg


GAjon

3,721 posts

212 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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sidekickdmr said:
Anothewr idea I've just come up with

A telehandler and a chain hoist?



The telehandler can have the chain hoist attached to it and then extend out over the drop location, chain hoist lowers it down?
Telehandlers are not suitable for suspended loads, in fact it's outlawed to under sling on most sites, besides a machine like that will cost you £600.00 a week hire plus delivery and collection.
By the time you've fannied about with winches, skids, skates, tirfors and jacks you could have a local mobile crane company in and have it done safely for a grand or less.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

252 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Chinook.

sidekickdmr

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205 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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V8RX7 said:
Would you get a 3T excavator through ?

My 1.7T machine can lift circa 600kg
Through where?

I've had 1.5 ton down the stairs, but wouldnt lift 700kg

I've had a 3ton where the pizza oven is (up top), but the arm wouldnt reach down/over far enough

and I've had a full size 8 ton JCB up top too, but again dont think the reach/drop will be sufficiant?

Squishey

567 posts

127 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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How about:

1. Board the steps and route to where the oven needs to go
2. Put the pallet on a pallet truck
3. Face the pallet truck down the hill (handle facing up the slope)
4. Put a couple of slings through the lifting eyes on the oven on the handle side of the pallet truck
5. Attach the slings to a winch
6. Attach the winch to the towing eye of a suitably heavy vehicle
7. Winch oven down the slope
8. Push the oven to where it needs to be?

A bit Heath Robinson but should work!

Joe M

665 posts

244 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Local rugby team all bunched round the pallet?

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

152 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Joe M said:
Local rugby team all bunched round the pallet?
Payment in pizzas too, zero cost!

sidekickdmr

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5,065 posts

205 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Squishey said:
How about:

1. Board the steps and route to where the oven needs to go
2. Put the pallet on a pallet truck
3. Face the pallet truck down the hill (handle facing up the slope)
4. Put a couple of slings through the lifting eyes on the oven on the handle side of the pallet truck
5. Attach the slings to a winch
6. Attach the winch to the towing eye of a suitably heavy vehicle
7. Winch oven down the slope
8. Push the oven to where it needs to be?

A bit Heath Robinson but should work!
Thats pretty much my best "DIY" option at the moment, but with a engine hoist and not a pallet truck otherwise I've still no way to lift it onto the base at the bottom.

would cost me £110 for the engine hoist

(https://www.amazon.co.uk/FoxHunter-Hydraulic-Folding-Engine-Wheels/dp/B00LEO3CMO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1471376931&sr=8-4&keywords=engine+hoist)

£20 for the chain hoist/winch (attached to my landy)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Toolzone-2-Ton-Cable-Pull...

and probally £20 for some ply.


eliot

11,364 posts

253 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Save yourself the bother of having to move it again and simply sell it now - as you will only ever use it once.

Squishey

567 posts

127 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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sidekickdmr said:
Thats pretty much my best "DIY" option at the moment, but with a engine hoist and not a pallet truck otherwise I've still no way to lift it onto the base at the bottom.

would cost me £110 for the engine hoist

(https://www.amazon.co.uk/FoxHunter-Hydraulic-Folding-Engine-Wheels/dp/B00LEO3CMO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1471376931&sr=8-4&keywords=engine+hoist)

£20 for the chain hoist/winch (attached to my landy)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Toolzone-2-Ton-Cable-Pull...

and probally £20 for some ply.
I'd be worried about 700kgs swinging around on an engine hoist when winching it down the stairs, there seems to be a large potential for the whole thing to topple over and your pizza oven to be smashed/cracked.

You can hire a pallet truck and engine hoist for about £90/day from HSS.

roofer

5,136 posts

210 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Borrow one of these,

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/sch-fbt2-four-whee...

Hire one of these,




Load onto barrow, make ramp for barrow, unload the other end onto loads of broom handles and roll into place.

smifffymoto

4,527 posts

204 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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We need pictures of the job site to have a proper understanding of what is required.