Is anyone paying the money some TVR's are at?

Is anyone paying the money some TVR's are at?

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Squirrelofwoe

3,184 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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TVRMs said:
TR4man said:
ianwayne said:
Fernhurst recently reduced their TVR prices, but it may be because the warranty is now extra and not included in the price. Nevertheless this one has had £8k knocked off it. They've had it about a year I think:

http://www.fernhurst-tvr.co.uk/car-details.php?id=...
Is the £28k asking price after the £8k reduction?

If so, were they really expecting it to sell for £36k?
Not sure if that's comparing apples for apples as its a bit of a one off.
I'm sure like any dealer, he advertised to sell at that price or close to it.

I thinks it's a steal at that money.
OT I know, but as interesting as that conversion is, I actually think I'd rather one 'the other way around'- i.e. a T350 with a 5.0 RV8 engine scratchchin

Andy_mr2sc

1,223 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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To answer the opening question yes I hope they are because if I read many more conversations like the one above I'm going to be selling up and leaving the fold pronto!

NuddyRap

218 posts

104 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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swisstoni said:
I was actually thinking the opposite to the OP.
Even the models that enjoyed some big rises (Sagaris and Tuscan convertible) seem to have stalled at a level.
To me, TVR prices don't exactly seem to be moving on like some other marques of the same era. Yes they have risen, but the market for old cars generally is at fever pitch.
TVRs don't seem to be riding that wave IMHO.

Delighted to be persuaded otherwise as I own two hehe
It all depends on the marque and status of the car at the time, as well as number sold. Look at the Jaguar XK range from the late 90's by comparison, some of which sold for substantially more than any TVR at the time. Up to £69k could be paid for a super-duper spec XKR and now they range from £4k to £12k for a barely ever driven 2004 supercharged example I just spotted on ebay. By comparison, we seem to be doing quite well and there looks to be more TVRs for sale than those Jags, whichever model of Trevor you pick.

With many of them having been through the lull that meant people with shallower pockets (myself included) were able to buy (And wreck - myself not included) them, the cars remaining are generally in ever better condition.

I don't think any us are likely to be sitting on goldmines and there's bound to be a ceiling. The 1 of only 3 Typhon's that's been for sale for so many years at Racing Green makes me think that no matter how rare any TVR model becomes, there just aren't enough bankers/arab sheikhs/millionnaire businessmen/musicians interested. Maybe we need a TVRCC drive to Monaco each year and a trailer or two full of cars visiting Abu Dhabi annually.

That said, I see the gentle increases continuing for a little while.... Before plummeting massively as we leave the EU and it becomes apparent that the entirety of the UK isn't even worth £28k, never mind any single car in it.

Let off some steam Bennett

2,414 posts

172 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Shnozz said:
You owned an integrale and E30 M3 and you are concerned at how much an old TVR has appreciated in that period?!
Does anybody pay the money asked for integrales and e30 m3's. I have owned a integrale and do have a soft spot for them, but the prices are mental. The same cars have been up for sale for years. IMHO a modern tvr is far more car than any integrale

m4tti

5,427 posts

156 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Squirrelofwoe said:
OT I know, but as interesting as that conversion is, I actually think I'd rather one 'the other way around'- i.e. a T350 with a 5.0 RV8 engine scratchchin
That would be like transplanting an old mans chopper onto Catherine Zeta Jones. Utterly ridiculous.

Edited by m4tti on Tuesday 25th October 22:31

Squirrelofwoe

3,184 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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m4tti said:
Squirrelofwoe said:
OT I know, but as interesting as that conversion is, I actually think I'd rather one 'the other way around'- i.e. a T350 with a 5.0 RV8 engine scratchchin
That would be like transplanting an old mans chopper onto Catherine Zeta Jones. Utterly ridiculous.

Edited by m4tti on Tuesday 25th October 22:31
I didn't say it would be a good idea, it just appeals to me in a strange way- the TVR that is hehe

I love the shape of the T350, but prefer the sound/characteristics of the old fashioned RV8. getmecoat

m4tti

5,427 posts

156 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Squirrelofwoe said:
it just appeals to me in a strange way- the TVR that is hehe
I had to re-read that carefully rofl



Squirrelofwoe

3,184 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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m4tti said:
Squirrelofwoe said:
it just appeals to me in a strange way- the TVR that is hehe
I had to re-read that carefully rofl
laugh

Randompunter74

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642 posts

145 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Let off some steam Bennett said:
Shnozz said:
You owned an integrale and E30 M3 and you are concerned at how much an old TVR has appreciated in that period?!
Does anybody pay the money asked for integrales and e30 m3's. I have owned a integrale and do have a soft spot for them, but the prices are mental. The same cars have been up for sale for years. IMHO a modern tvr is far more car than any integrale
Yes, to be fair. I bought the E30 M3 3 years ago and sold it back to the owner I bought it from for almost double. He was happy to pay and realised his error. I already had a German buyer for it at the time. I think it was 28k. On the Integrale, same, I bought it from 4 star for like 24k and pushed it on through walkers 2 years later for like 44k back to me, I think they sold it for like 48k. Mental. Still, there were both very tidy ones, euro Spec with history

so called

9,090 posts

210 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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I think that for a while after the closure of the factory the prices were quite weak.
I picked up my 2006 Tuscan Convertible for 24k in 2009 which seems silly today.

Jurgen Schmidt

824 posts

202 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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so called said:
I think that for a while after the closure of the factory the prices were quite weak.
I picked up my 2006 Tuscan Convertible for 24k in 2009 which seems silly today.
I bought my 2005 Tuscan Convertible for £26k in 2010, probably now worth about £40k

I see Str8six have the unique Vulcan for sale at £80k http://www.str8six.co.uk/CAR%20SALES/page20/page20...

so called

9,090 posts

210 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Jurgen Schmidt said:
so called said:
I think that for a while after the closure of the factory the prices were quite weak.
I picked up my 2006 Tuscan Convertible for 24k in 2009 which seems silly today.
I bought my 2005 Tuscan Convertible for £26k in 2010, probably now worth about £40k

I see Str8six have the unique Vulcan for sale at £80k http://www.str8six.co.uk/CAR%20SALES/page20/page20...
My Wife found mine after I wrote of my year 2000 Targa top.
Funnily enough she found 2 and one was a 2005 in a very lovely orange. Wonder if its the one you bought?
Only chose the 2006 because of the year and been kicking myself for not buying both. banghead

Bobhon

1,057 posts

180 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Squirrelofwoe said:
I didn't say it would be a good idea, it just appeals to me in a strange way- the TVR that is hehe

I love the shape of the T350, but prefer the sound/characteristics of the old fashioned RV8. getmecoat
T350 (Tamora Hard Top smile it even say Tamora on the start up screen) with an LS conversion is what you want then.

Bob

Jurgen Schmidt

824 posts

202 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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so called said:
Jurgen Schmidt said:
so called said:
I think that for a while after the closure of the factory the prices were quite weak.
I picked up my 2006 Tuscan Convertible for 24k in 2009 which seems silly today.
I bought my 2005 Tuscan Convertible for £26k in 2010, probably now worth about £40k

I see Str8six have the unique Vulcan for sale at £80k http://www.str8six.co.uk/CAR%20SALES/page20/page20...
My Wife found mine after I wrote of my year 2000 Targa top.
Funnily enough she found 2 and one was a 2005 in a very lovely orange. Wonder if its the one you bought?
Only chose the 2006 because of the year and been kicking myself for not buying both. banghead
I think it probably is my one.
It had been for sale at Dream Machines for a while and then ended up for sale at Racing Green, which is where I bought it, it had just the one previous owner.
I've had the engine rebuilt since, so any 'profit' on the 'investment' has vanished... so don't kick yourself too hard biggrin

Squirrelofwoe

3,184 posts

177 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Bobhon said:
T350 (Tamora Hard Top smile it even say Tamora on the start up screen) with an LS conversion is what you want then.

Bob
Yeah I figured that would be the obvious V8 conversion, being fairly popular (as TVR conversions go) for various models.

But there is just something about the RV8 sound that just isn't there with the LS engines. I'm probably in the smallest of minorities but I just vastly prefer the sound of them, and the performance/tuning benefits of the LS would be of little interest to me- a 5.0 RV8 would be plenty adequate performance for me for a road car. Certainly enough to make it not worth sacrificing the RV8 noise for!

As I say, I accept I'm likely in a very small minority... hehe

frenchie TVR

294 posts

176 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Good TVRs have been too cheap for too long, have you seen the prices of some of the 90’s 911s? Chimaera / Cerbera / Griffith and newer TVRs are in many ways much better sports cars, if you are looking for fun and raw performances and are worth a lot, lot less…

It’s about time TVRs are going up: they are good cars and much rarer than Porsches / M badged BMW and the like!

Randompunter74

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642 posts

145 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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I have seen this, and have to say, I love it. 36 large though. I will be awake tonight mulling over.
http://www.str8six.co.uk/CAR%20SALES/page14/page14...

PGNSagaris

2,935 posts

167 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Do it!!

It looks mega. And Str8six are impeccable to deal with.

blitzracing

6,392 posts

221 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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Wish I could say the same for the Ginetta's, but they never quite got the market recognition of the TVR Griff, even though they where direct competition when they where launched in 1992 at £500 less, but as much more of a track car for the road, as it was pretty basic. Good value now if you don't mind a bit of fiddling, and dead easy to work on.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C798001

alex_gray255

6,313 posts

206 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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Randompunter74 said:
Yeah, I think at these prices I will just go for the new one. I mean, 55,000 GBP for one of the first off the line new TVR...of 67k for a Sagaris? Hmmmm.
Good luck with that! The quotes I have seen are very much higher...