How many left - a bit of analyis

How many left - a bit of analyis

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RayTVR

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1,040 posts

142 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Many of you will have seen or used the "how many left" data kindly provided by the DVLA which is an interesting snapshot of how many TVRs are still out there and their Status.

The latest data for Q2 shows 10,268 TVRs which are either licensed or registered as SORN.

Of these Two thirds are taxed and one third SORN (Good effort).

Unfortunately when you drill into the data, our favourite manufacturer wasn't the most adept (to be kind) at getting them registered as the right thing, and older models all are lumped together as TVR other.

Still interesting to see how they split up though;




I've grouped together 280S, 290s and V8s as 'S Series' to keep it manageable and the same for other obvious groups.

The 'Missing' category is pretty big, and although this will include all the classic models up to M Series I'm pretty certain there are a lot more in there which should be something else. I love a challenge, so set out trying to explore.

One idea I have been playing with is to compare to the PH list of owners. Of course this is not great data the same car will appear multiple times, and of course some models may have higher representation, although as all are ten years plus now, its likely that most will be owned by enthusiasts rather than daily drivers. At the least its an interesting comparison to split them into the same groups and compare. As it happens there are about 10,000 listed profiles so the numbers are similar and should be a large enough sample size.








I think this supports the theory that a big number of those with 'missing' registrations are wedges; There were a similar number of S models made as wedges, around the same number of PH members, yet the DVLA records a lot less on the road.

angry jock

1,005 posts

198 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Its not just classic and wedges that are missing. My Griff is classed as a "Sports" and I know quite a few others are too.

Roy C

4,187 posts

283 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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It's not just TVR. I use the DVLA's data fairly often and you would be quite surprised how often names and numbers have been mistaken, misspelt or transposed.

GazzaM100

209 posts

137 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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I've started to do the Tamora register and Dvla have cars that are still registered on their site but I know have been exported all over the world.
Others show they haven't been taxed or mot'd for years so I think the what's left number over here is lower than they state

ianwayne

6,244 posts

267 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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I think that an exported car's data just remains on the database ad infinitum in case it comes back. There is a field on a vehicle inquiry called 'Export Marker.' A previous Chimaera 500 of mine (342 TBF) is labelled 'yes' here:

https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk

It hasn't had MoT or tax for over 6 yrs in the UK but seems to be abroad somewhere. I appreciate this would mean searching individual reg numbers manually so isn't realistic without DVLA's assistance.


ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

148 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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Is it safe to assume around 10,600 cars were made by Tvr.
Not many at all.

RayTVR

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1,040 posts

142 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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ClassiChimi said:
Is it safe to assume around 10,600 cars were made by Tvr.
Not many at all.
No, thats just those on the DVLA database which are listed as taxed or SORN, so wont include any made for export, or scrapped or exported since.

Think the overall figure is around 21,000.

Edited by RayTVR on Wednesday 16th November 11:02

GazzaM100

209 posts

137 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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I've checked all 170+ Tamora's individually on the Dvla vehicle check site and also the Dvla MOT check site as it gives mileage and also tells you exactly what TVR it is unlike the vehicle one.

Less than half the cars that haven't got MOT & tax don't say they are exported or SORN. Also know of one in Australia that doesn't say exported


Le TVR

3,092 posts

250 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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Well mine is not listed as exported.
Was interesting importing here as the model type on the registration doc said "2 axle rigid body Sports".
Wouldn't be surprised if many of those wedges had the same moniker?

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

148 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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RayTVR said:
No, thats just those on the DVLA database which are listed as taxed or SORN, so wont include any made for export, or scrapped or exported since.

Think the overall figure is around 21,000.

Edited by RayTVR on Wednesday 16th November 11:02
Ok. Thanks.
Still not exactly a huge number. smile