Ceramic coating

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Incognegro

1,560 posts

132 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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M4tti thanks for the heads up.

Looked at both links. The 1st slating them 1 things I picked up on was its from 2003 so to be fair with recommendation I got and the amount of time gone by I wouldn't pin that entirely to them.

The 2nd link shows both sides and the Ztec users I have heard people say that may not be the best route.

I really appreciate the info you've given as it will let me go to them prior to work being done and spell out clearly what I want and if they cannot provide then there would be repercussions. The contract we enter into will be clear and accountability will be definite with a clear remedy if needed.

Cheers mate.

TwinKam

2,936 posts

94 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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Incognegro said:
M4tti thanks for the heads up.

Looked at both links. The 1st slating them 1 things I picked up on was its from 2003 so to be fair with recommendation I got and the amount of time gone by I wouldn't pin that entirely to them.

The 2nd link shows both sides and the Ztec users I have heard people say that may not be the best route.

I really appreciate the info you've given as it will let me go to them prior to work being done and spell out clearly what I want and if they cannot provide then there would be repercussions. The contract we enter into will be clear and accountability will be definite with a clear remedy if needed.

Cheers mate.
I think you'll find that all of these places have their 'ts & cs' well and truly covered and won't guarantee anything, especially on used pipes, and will simply decline to do the job if you don't accept them.

glow worm

5,796 posts

226 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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Zircotec ceramic seems OK , the problem seems to come with the "Performance Colours"

m4tti

5,426 posts

154 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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Incognegro said:
M4tti thanks for the heads up.

Looked at both links. The 1st slating them 1 things I picked up on was its from 2003 so to be fair with recommendation I got and the amount of time gone by I wouldn't pin that entirely to them.

The 2nd link shows both sides and the Ztec users I have heard people say that may not be the best route.

I really appreciate the info you've given as it will let me go to them prior to work being done and spell out clearly what I want and if they cannot provide then there would be repercussions. The contract we enter into will be clear and accountability will be definite with a clear remedy if needed.

Cheers mate.
No problem.

I think the biggest issue I'd have is what to do if the coating starts flaking/falling off say six months down the line. The manifolds are a real pain to remove and several of the fixings are almost borderline impossible to remove with the engine in the car.

Incognegro

1,560 posts

132 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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They quote for both too double coat externals or they do a race spec internal and external coat (for not that much more) which they say has more longevity.

My cars use is such that the external will be fine as it may see the odd trackday.

To be fair they asked on milage, use, heat issues etc and haven't been pushing anything based on what I said infact they seem in agreement with my thoughts.

MrChips

3,263 posts

209 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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You can just about see the flaking on mine. This is 5yrs old, somewhere around 11k miles. Yes ta not great but it doesn't feel like the end of the world. I assume the top part is flaking due to the heat on the outside of the bend. The rest of the system looks fine.



bomb

3,691 posts

283 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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5 yrs = 11 K miles !! Probably doesn't get hot enough hehe

MrChips

3,263 posts

209 months

Tuesday 7th February 2017
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Trust me I was worried it would be under 5k miles I'd done!

My main problem is I like to "fix" things.. and this inevitably leads to fixing more things so I end up with the car in bits just at the point when I have a chance to drive it boxedin

DJR 7

1,413 posts

256 months

Tuesday 7th February 2017
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Had mine coated at camcoat, I was pleased with the finish and the price, not run them up yet so not able to comment on longevity

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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DJR 7 said:


Had mine coated at camcoat, I was pleased with the finish and the price, not run them up yet so not able to comment on longevity
An excellent product.

We used it on a TVR 3000S Turbo running much higher exhaust temps than a normally aspirated engine. Did what it said on the tin and no issues over a 6-7 year period. Sold the car now so don't know if its still in tact.

Caveats
Car was not used in the winter months.
Coating was applied to a new exhaust.
Exhaust was stainless.

I have another two exhaust systems (new and stainless) that will very probably be getting treated to a coating in the very near future.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 8th February 08:29

SJS357

1,505 posts

155 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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Yep my votes Camcoat as well thumbup

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giorgio01

80 posts

198 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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Mines arrived some time ago, new bespoke made from stainless very well packed and protected, they did advise black as best for results and longevity

giorgio01

80 posts

198 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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greenhulk

989 posts

105 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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Incognegro said:
I'm currently talking with these guys and mine WILL be going here.

http://www.camcoat.com/main/coatings1.html

I've been told of various options and benefits for and against. They also asked my usage and requirements. Very impressed and they come up cheaper than Performance 1 (even in the more expensive spec).

Very impressed so far
May i ask which coating you were recommended? I just came off the phone from camcoat the other day, i was telling them these cars get really hot under the bonnet & they told me 'straightsix' use them & always have the 'cam4' coating (the dearest one) ceramic coats inside & 2 outside.. Just wondering if this is overkill or?

Incognegro

1,560 posts

132 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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Hi Hulk,

Again they advised me of both but let me make decision on my needs.

Im going CAM2 (double external) I came to this as my car has no overheating issues and runs efficiently (coolant and water pipes all silicone or stainless).

Im only having manifolds and decat pipes done. The decats don't actually get that hot in relative terms so that was easy choice and as for manifolds Im yet to track and I don't do excessive miles. All around that area is having new heat shielding (inc. starter motor) so for me its just to encase the heat.

With all that said for me the CAM4 (although not that much more expensive) would be an overkill especially as on the Cerebra S6 they are quite concealed so Im more function over look.

HTH

greenhulk

989 posts

105 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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Incognegro said:
Hi Hulk,

Again they advised me of both but let me make decision on my needs.

Im going CAM2 (double external) I came to this as my car has no overheating issues and runs efficiently (coolant and water pipes all silicone or stainless).

Im only having manifolds and decat pipes done. The decats don't actually get that hot in relative terms so that was easy choice and as for manifolds Im yet to track and I don't do excessive miles. All around that area is having new heat shielding (inc. starter motor) so for me its just to encase the heat.

With all that said for me the CAM4 (although not that much more expensive) would be an overkill especially as on the Cerebra S6 they are quite concealed so Im more function over look.

HTH
Thanks for the reply, pretty much done the same except i got a chimaera, I thought about going for cam2 myself maybe one internal + external (apparently no internal can lead to the colour fading?) I tried manifolds wrap on my tvr s & although it keeps the heat in i just hate the appearance.

Decisions decisions, think it worked out at £475 for cam4 manifolds & ypiece, so much for keeping to a budget rolleyes

AMTony

1,074 posts

166 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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Camcoat Cerra-chrome - no problems with it at all.


Incognegro

1,560 posts

132 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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greenhulk said:
Thanks for the reply, pretty much done the same except i got a chimaera, I thought about going for cam2 myself maybe one internal + external (apparently no internal can lead to the colour fading?) I tried manifolds wrap on my tvr s & although it keeps the heat in i just hate the appearance.

Decisions decisions, think it worked out at £475 for cam4 manifolds & ypiece, so much for keeping to a budget rolleyes
Hmm a cam 2 with 1 in and 1 out might be the best compromise.

Colour fade is not so much a worry for me as I'm more sold on the heat encasing ability so if that stays good then that's my priority.

Leads me to wonder why CAM2 states 2 external if they themselves see a benefit of doing 1 in and 1 out.

greenhulk

989 posts

105 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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AMTony said:
Camcoat Cerra-chrome - no problems with it at all.

look great AMTony, so which rating did you go for the cam2 or the full price cam4?

Incognegro said:
Hmm a cam 2 with 1 in and 1 out might be the best compromise.

Colour fade is not so much a worry for me as I'm more sold on the heat encasing ability so if that stays good then that's my priority.

Leads me to wonder why CAM2 states 2 external if they themselves see a benefit of doing 1 in and 1 out.
"CAM 2 is for a double coating. Either double internal, internal + external on stainless or external base ceramic + choice of finish on mild steel or cast iron."

Im going over the originals so yes your right would have to be double external. Im not that bad bothered about colour fade myself i guess, well i would be if i went with the chrome finish but could save abit more £££ going for the 'cam 2' if thats what everyone else has been going for, as long as it keeps the under bonnet temperatures down well enough.

Incognegro

1,560 posts

132 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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Double external in black for me, blue decats. Money saved is a full tank of supert to go test it wink