New generation drivers destroying TVR's?

[ochten]

Last weeks several TVR's (2 very rare LHD Dutch Tuscan and a MK2 and a 350C) were crashed by younger "new" drivers. 15 years ago it was very common but the recent years the owners were more carefull and experienced it seems.Is the climate changing now for a new generation of owners?

[ochten]

[ochten]

[portzi]

Have a word Jan with your Dutch counterparts to look after our Trevor's, they should be treated like a WW2 spitfire, with grace and respect

[DAKOTAstorm]

A new generation is necessary to keep the brand and our cars alive. If we all kept them until death then there would be a period of many years of these cars deteriorating and the market for parts/service disappear. If you ask current TVR owners who could well now be on their second, third, seventh TVR how many have they crashed/written off I think you'd be surprised. I'd also be surprised if the owners don't learn from that experience and return to TVR ownership in the future. You've got to keep getting in new generations to keep it current. After all, we were all once a new generation dreaming of ownership too!

[BrightYellowTVR]

I rescued my Tam from NL and just in time by the looks of this post!

[ochten]

[ochten]

Tuscan No 2 (original imported in 2003) Was in many local magazines. Nobody injured thanks to the strong chassis/GRP body. Only ego's I think.

[Steve_D]

ochten said:

In fairness if asked to analyse this accident purely from the supplied photo I would say the poor Trevor has been attacked from behind.

If it had been a spin I would expect the damage to exhibit signs of side motion in the damage area but it appears to be completely square.

Steve

[5.0ltr]

Steve_D said:

In fairness if asked to analyse this accident purely from the supplied photo I would say the poor Trevor has been attacked from behind.

If it had been a spin I would expect the damage to exhibit signs of side motion in the damage area but it appears to be completely square.

Steve

Apparently for sale car being test driven which he lost control of hitting rear into crash barrier before spinning into the crane.

[QBee]

Dom Trickett, the owner of TVR Power, has posted a plea on Facebook to get the car back to him and he will restore it for less than the write off value....do let the owner know if he has not seen the post.

[ochten]

[CanoeSniffer]

OP, I think I may qualify as younger newer brand of driver having bought my Chim 6 months ago age 20. Although I do sometimes find myself looking around at my generation and wondering if I'm broken, but then I figure anyone my age buying a TVR probably has to be a bit broken!

Truth be told I'd be a terrible owner for a tidy Tiv (mine is an exception being pretty rotten), I'd be so precious over the damn thing I'd never take it anywhere. I understand that there is a history and uniqueness to these cars that goes to way back before I was born, and I have incredible respect for that. My car, though a bit rubbish and tired, is the love of my life and makes the missus extremely jealous with how much it is cherished and the time and devotion I've been putting in. I'm in the process now of sinking thousands of pounds into new outriggers, brakes and suspension to hopefully preserve the life of my beast for many years to come (I went in with the agenda of running a cheap Tiv at the expense of quality or pride, but that's love for you- I'm now completely skint but hey, my outriggers will be clean).

Maybe there are a group of yoofs running round carelessly trashing these beautiful cars, hopefully not, but if so- either I'm the exception or they are!

By Miyke
Age twentey-won

[m4tti]

Don't drive these things during the winter months or in the wet. There problem solved comes with a free bonus of not rotting the chassis.

[5.0ltr]

m4tti said:

Don't drive these things during the winter months or in the wet. There problem solved comes with a free bonus of not rotting the chassis.

It's a car
It's a mechanical thing that appreciates being used
My VW is parked outside it's value goes down my TVR goes up whatever use I do with it.
I bought it to be used. I use it for 12 months of the year
I enjoy driving in all weathers.
My cars chassis is original
I drive to the conditions
Long live the Griff as some say!

[m4tti]

5.0ltr said:

It's a car
It's a mechanical thing that appreciates being used
My VW is parked outside it's value goes down my TVR goes up whatever use I do with it.
I bought it to be used. I use it for 12 months of the year
I enjoy driving in all weathers.
My cars chassis is original
I drive to the conditions
Long live the Griff as some say!

Get a grip of your self. It far departed from a modern car that's why these events happen in the winter. Your chassis is rotting out from under your arse. Feel free to live in cloud cuckoo land but these cars were originally the equivalent of 50 - 80k and weren't typically used as daily driver. But any way keep flying the flag of bizarro.

Remember your vw value may be going down but driving your tvr year round probably won't help
It's value. I've restored one and have a ramp.. Ive seen the result after just one damp winter trip it's not a modern car covered in under seal, but keep kidding yourself.

The other point I question here is any driver under the age of thirty will be largely unfamiliar with cars with no driver aids, especially ones doing about 300bhp/per ton. Im guessing your not under 30...i'd go on but your arguement is all of a sudden looking ridiculous.

I appreciate the opinions of the old guard but your driving experience and behaviour are now out of touch with the reality of these cars. Let's all move on, preserve th and help drivers of younger years enjoy them.

Edited by m4tti on Saturday 18th February 23:49

[ukkid35]

ochten said:

Last weeks several TVR's (2 very rare LHD Dutch Tuscan and a MK2 and a 350C) were crashed by younger "new" drivers. 15 years ago it was very common but the recent years the owners were more carefull and experienced it seems.Is the climate changing now for a new generation of owners?

Those photos are horrible, because the level of destruction doesn't seem to tally with the built up area in which they were being driven

Perhaps with a little more context they would make sense, but with the little background there is the inevitable conclusion is they were being driven with very little care & attention.

[anonymous-user]

ochten said:

Nobody injured thanks to the strong chassis/GRP body.

Really? Perhaps in the early 1990's you might describe a TVR as having a crash proof chassis?

[scorcher]

5.0ltr said:

m4tti said:

Don't drive these things during the winter months or in the wet. There problem solved comes with a free bonus of not rotting the chassis.

It's a car
It's a mechanical thing that appreciates being used
My VW is parked outside it's value goes down my TVR goes up whatever use I do with it.
I bought it to be used. I use it for 12 months of the year
I enjoy driving in all weathers.
My cars chassis is original
I drive to the conditions
Long live the Griff as some say!

I'm with 5.0ltr! Use them and enjoy them. Repair them if you need to. I hate seeing decent cars parked and not being used.Such a waste. Mine covered 36000 miles in 3 years, was out virtually every weekend, rain, snow or shine! (along with plenty of other TVRS) Loved it! If I had one now it would probably get used more over winter than in summer.

[bobfather]

Yes wet roads with FWD trained and novice drivers will kill TVR's. One greatly misunderstood contributor is down shifting without understanding the danger of rear wheel grip loss. When shifting down without matching engine speed the combination or RWD, wet roads and light rear end serve to brake the rear wheels resulting in irretrievable loss of directional control