RE: Breaking News: AJP8 Relaunched
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dinkel said:
Interesting? It's a 4v head.
Looks like it from the exhaust ports, and the two diamond shape marks on the rocker cover which might be where the twin cams are located.If this is the case this this is where the extra power is from and the emission changes to new regulations.
Mr F
Mr Freefall said:
dinkel said:
Interesting? It's a 4v head.
Looks like it from the exhaust ports, and the two diamond shape marks on the rocker cover which might be where the twin cams are located.If this is the case this this is where the extra power is from and the emission changes to new regulations.
Mr F
ridds said:
Question is what emission rules is it meeting?
Never gonna meet EuroV so what's the life of it?
Unless it has 4v heads and some close coupled cats.
Agreed- about the importance of emissions rules to put things into perspective.Never gonna meet EuroV so what's the life of it?
Unless it has 4v heads and some close coupled cats.
But you dont necessarily need 4 valve heads to meet Euro V.
4 valver pent roofs give alot of valve area for compact combustion chambers- which is good in terms of performance per emissions but it's not the only answer.
Los Angeles said:
Two threads on Melling, one greatly extended, neither exhibiting universal agreement on Melling's ability let alone engineering "genius." He would be well advised to employ someone other than him self to front his business.
May be he could employ you.I can see you two making a good team
BCA said:
Mr Freefall said:
dinkel said:
Interesting? It's a 4v head.
Looks like it from the exhaust ports, and the two diamond shape marks on the rocker cover which might be where the twin cams are located.If this is the case this this is where the extra power is from and the emission changes to new regulations.
Mr F
Someone mentioned about a good business with spare parts and rebuilds, I don't think there were many issues with the AJP8 from a failure point of view but it would make good business if it became the 'Cosworth' of low volume British car manufacturers it needs to be cheap enough and reliable though.
I wouldn't bother comparing this to the LS series of engines. One is a properly invested in proposition, the other is a lot of nice shiny looks and perhaps empty promises in terms of power. The start of the LS series was a $2 billion investment to a serious range of engines, the AJP? Sorry, it always was and still looks like something the UK press got/get excited about and then delivered generally lower than specified power outputs and lower than specified reliability. Anyone who says 'my one has never given any trouble' then well done, you are at the seriously upper percentile of the statistics.
As for comparing these with Cosworth, another please get real, Cosworth produce very credible high power output engines, and can demonstrate real world production tie ups that work. Also derivatives of the Cosworth engine, such as the Millington, show that the basic engineering is sound.
If I want pointless CNC billet work to add onto an engine, I'll be sure to pick up the American aftermarket parts catalogues.
As for comparing these with Cosworth, another please get real, Cosworth produce very credible high power output engines, and can demonstrate real world production tie ups that work. Also derivatives of the Cosworth engine, such as the Millington, show that the basic engineering is sound.
If I want pointless CNC billet work to add onto an engine, I'll be sure to pick up the American aftermarket parts catalogues.
franv8 said:
As for comparing these with Cosworth, another please get real, Cosworth produce very credible high power output engines, and can demonstrate real world production tie ups that work. Also derivatives of the Cosworth engine, such as the Millington, show that the basic engineering is sound.
I didn't compare it to Cosworths, that's why I put it in quotes, I was meaning 'the engine of choice' as the Cosworth DFV once was in F1, that's all. I could have called it the 'weapon of choice' I just thought I'd make the analogy to an engine manufacturer.V8 GRF said:
Erich Stahler said:
Fantastic news if it actually happens! by the way have any of the Melling Wildcats or Hellcats been sold yet?
No Hellcats sold as it's still in development and I believe they've sold 3 Wildcats.trackcar said:
gb8888 said:
When are you people going to learn that Mr Melling is full of s
t. That includes Pistonheads by the way.
Oh go away and leave us to our romantic dreamst. That includes Pistonheads by the way.
LordGrover said:
tomTVR said:
I dont see why there would be a problem, he got the V8 right in the first place so dont see why he cant improve it. If they can sel it as a crate engine for racing and projects at a sensible price then he will be onto a winner. Shame the same cant be said for that silly Wildcat thing which doesnt even have a roof!
AMelling said:
A properly designed sport car, keeps you warm, from its in built heater - the engine - and it shouldn't need a rear screen on open top cars. If it’s designed properly the wind should impede way behind the occupant’s heads.
franv8 said:
I wouldn't bother comparing this to the LS series of engines. One is a properly invested in proposition, the other is a lot of nice shiny looks and perhaps empty promises in terms of power. The start of the LS series was a $2 billion investment to a serious range of engines, the AJP?
If I want pointless CNC billet work to add onto an engine, I'll be sure to pick up the American aftermarket parts catalogues.
the LS line does not have a flat plane crank so to me it doesn't sound as exotic and doesn't spin up as nice or as smoothly.If I want pointless CNC billet work to add onto an engine, I'll be sure to pick up the American aftermarket parts catalogues.
the CNC work is probably cheaper than casting which would be preferable however.
WILDROVER42 said:
"Many race car engines only needed a re-build after three years of racing"?
Why didnt they put those engines in the road cars and save all those owners all that grief and heartache?
I think you may be confusing the AJP8 with the Speed 6. Rather different propositions.Why didnt they put those engines in the road cars and save all those owners all that grief and heartache?
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