Worst outrigger ever? + bodylift pics

[ray_von]

Chimpaholic said:

Who needs these out-rotters anyway?

Surely this is just an organic weight loss system designed in by TVR.

Seriously though, those snaps will probably scare off anyone thinking about a TVR.

Personally I think the early silver painted chassis is better than the white powder coated ones, but lets face it they are all getting on a bit.

This is an early powder coated one too, it seems they got better as time went on.

Interestingly the main rails still seem fine from what I can see.

So I say, if wasn't for those out-rotters we would all be fine for years to come.

Shame TVR never gave them a bit more protection.

However if you fix your out-rotters the Griffimaeras make a compelling case for themselves.

These cars are still the bargain of the century in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong these outriggers are particularly bad, but as you say the main rails do seem ok. I would suggest that as you could get new outriggers fitted for around £1500 it's not the end of the world in the money stakes. Obviously the crunch is getting someone to carry the work out right first time

[TVR653X]

Outriggers are not structural. They merely support the bodywork somewhat. The car will drive fine without them.

[Chimpaholic]

ray_von said:

Chimpaholic said:

Who needs these out-rotters anyway?

Surely this is just an organic weight loss system designed in by TVR.

Seriously though, those snaps will probably scare off anyone thinking about a TVR.

Personally I think the early silver painted chassis is better than the white powder coated ones, but lets face it they are all getting on a bit.

This is an early powder coated one too, it seems they got better as time went on.

Interestingly the main rails still seem fine from what I can see.

So I say, if wasn't for those out-rotters we would all be fine for years to come.

Shame TVR never gave them a bit more protection.

However if you fix your out-rotters the Griffimaeras make a compelling case for themselves.

These cars are still the bargain of the century in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong these outriggers are particularly bad, but as you say the main rails do seem ok. I would suggest that as you could get new outriggers fitted for around £1500 it's not the end of the world in the money stakes. Obviously the crunch is getting someone to carry the work out right first time

Exactly, in a few years we will all be looking back at this and laughing.

Whats £1.5 - £2K to keep an icon on the road.

I spent many years in classic restoration and saw a few big Healys crushed for less corrosion.

If only I had known the AH would be making £25k in my lifetime I would have saved a few more.

My advise with your Griffimaeras is to drive them, fix them, then drive them some more.

In a few years we will all be enjoying a profit too.

[slideways]

TVR653X said:

Outriggers are not structural. They merely support the bodywork somewhat. The car will drive fine without them.

errrr wrong the out riggers support the seats and seatbelt anchors, and as you so rightly contradicted yourself they support the body too.

[TVR653X]

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

Outriggers are not structural. They merely support the bodywork somewhat. The car will drive fine without them.

errrr wrong the out riggers support the seats and seatbelt anchors, and as you so rightly contradicted yourself they support the body too.

yes but they won't actually cause the car to fall in half and veer off into a ditch, unlike the main backbone of the chassis.

[slideways]

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

Outriggers are not structural. They merely support the bodywork somewhat. The car will drive fine without them.

errrr wrong the out riggers support the seats and seatbelt anchors, and as you so rightly contradicted yourself they support the body too.

yes but they won't actually cause the car to fall in half and veer off into a ditch, unlike the main backbone of the chassis.

maybe not (i take it you have tested that) but to state they are not structural!!!!

[TVR653X]

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

Outriggers are not structural. They merely support the bodywork somewhat. The car will drive fine without them.

errrr wrong the out riggers support the seats and seatbelt anchors, and as you so rightly contradicted yourself they support the body too.

yes but they won't actually cause the car to fall in half and veer off into a ditch, unlike the main backbone of the chassis.

maybe not (i take it you have tested that) but to state they are not structural!!!!

yeh I did word it wrong i guess. When my dad's chim was in for repair, he was told the outriggers will need attention, probably next year, but that 'they were not completely essential, the car will drive without them'.

[slideways]

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

Outriggers are not structural. They merely support the bodywork somewhat. The car will drive fine without them.

errrr wrong the out riggers support the seats and seatbelt anchors, and as you so rightly contradicted yourself they support the body too.

yes but they won't actually cause the car to fall in half and veer off into a ditch, unlike the main backbone of the chassis.

maybe not (i take it you have tested that) but to state they are not structural!!!!

yeh I did word it wrong i guess. When my dad's chim was in for repair, he was told the outriggers will need attention, probably next year, but that 'they were not completely essential, the car will drive without them'.

Yes you could drive it without outriggers, but would you want to? bear in mind how thin the grp is on the floor pans and how close your ass is to the floor and if you did hit something it would probably mean the seat would pull through the floor and you would end up through the screen

[TVR653X]

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

Outriggers are not structural. They merely support the bodywork somewhat. The car will drive fine without them.

errrr wrong the out riggers support the seats and seatbelt anchors, and as you so rightly contradicted yourself they support the body too.

yes but they won't actually cause the car to fall in half and veer off into a ditch, unlike the main backbone of the chassis.

maybe not (i take it you have tested that) but to state they are not structural!!!!

yeh I did word it wrong i guess. When my dad's chim was in for repair, he was told the outriggers will need attention, probably next year, but that 'they were not completely essential, the car will drive without them'.

Yes you could drive it without outriggers, but would you want to? bear in mind how thin the grp is on the floor pans and how close your ass is to the floor and if you did hit something it would probably mean the seat would pull through the floor and you would end up through the screen

It's not ideal by any means, no.

[slideways]

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

Outriggers are not structural. They merely support the bodywork somewhat. The car will drive fine without them.

errrr wrong the out riggers support the seats and seatbelt anchors, and as you so rightly contradicted yourself they support the body too.

yes but they won't actually cause the car to fall in half and veer off into a ditch, unlike the main backbone of the chassis.

maybe not (i take it you have tested that) but to state they are not structural!!!!

yeh I did word it wrong i guess. When my dad's chim was in for repair, he was told the outriggers will need attention, probably next year, but that 'they were not completely essential, the car will drive without them'.

Yes you could drive it without outriggers, but would you want to? bear in mind how thin the grp is on the floor pans and how close your ass is to the floor and if you did hit something it would probably mean the seat would pull through the floor and you would end up through the screen

It's not ideal by any means, no.

glad thats cleared up then.
sorry if that sounded a little smug

Edited by slideways on Sunday 29th November 21:11

[TVR653X]

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

Outriggers are not structural. They merely support the bodywork somewhat. The car will drive fine without them.

errrr wrong the out riggers support the seats and seatbelt anchors, and as you so rightly contradicted yourself they support the body too.

yes but they won't actually cause the car to fall in half and veer off into a ditch, unlike the main backbone of the chassis.

maybe not (i take it you have tested that) but to state they are not structural!!!!

yeh I did word it wrong i guess. When my dad's chim was in for repair, he was told the outriggers will need attention, probably next year, but that 'they were not completely essential, the car will drive without them'.

Yes you could drive it without outriggers, but would you want to? bear in mind how thin the grp is on the floor pans and how close your ass is to the floor and if you did hit something it would probably mean the seat would pull through the floor and you would end up through the screen

It's not ideal by any means, no.

glad thats cleared up then.
sorry if that sounded a little smug

Edited by slideways on Sunday 29th November 21:11

No not at all. I just saw people saying 'wow just goes to show how strong the chassis is considering all the power you've put through it', when the outriggers actually have little to do with the bracing of the car. The main tubular steel lattice bit does that.

[slideways]

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

Outriggers are not structural. They merely support the bodywork somewhat. The car will drive fine without them.

errrr wrong the out riggers support the seats and seatbelt anchors, and as you so rightly contradicted yourself they support the body too.

yes but they won't actually cause the car to fall in half and veer off into a ditch, unlike the main backbone of the chassis.

maybe not (i take it you have tested that) but to state they are not structural!!!!

yeh I did word it wrong i guess. When my dad's chim was in for repair, he was told the outriggers will need attention, probably next year, but that 'they were not completely essential, the car will drive without them'.

Yes you could drive it without outriggers, but would you want to? bear in mind how thin the grp is on the floor pans and how close your ass is to the floor and if you did hit something it would probably mean the seat would pull through the floor and you would end up through the screen

It's not ideal by any means, no.

glad thats cleared up then.
sorry if that sounded a little smug

Edited by slideways on Sunday 29th November 21:11

No not at all. I just saw people saying 'wow just goes to show how strong the chassis is considering all the power you've put through it', when the outriggers actually have little to do with the bracing of the car. The main tubular steel lattice bit does that.

i take it you are refuring to my qoute

slideways said:

and just goes to show how strong the tub is with all that nitros you've put through it

nothing in there about chassis

[TVR653X]

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

slideways said:

TVR653X said:

Outriggers are not structural. They merely support the bodywork somewhat. The car will drive fine without them.

errrr wrong the out riggers support the seats and seatbelt anchors, and as you so rightly contradicted yourself they support the body too.

yes but they won't actually cause the car to fall in half and veer off into a ditch, unlike the main backbone of the chassis.

maybe not (i take it you have tested that) but to state they are not structural!!!!

yeh I did word it wrong i guess. When my dad's chim was in for repair, he was told the outriggers will need attention, probably next year, but that 'they were not completely essential, the car will drive without them'.

Yes you could drive it without outriggers, but would you want to? bear in mind how thin the grp is on the floor pans and how close your ass is to the floor and if you did hit something it would probably mean the seat would pull through the floor and you would end up through the screen

It's not ideal by any means, no.

glad thats cleared up then.
sorry if that sounded a little smug

Edited by slideways on Sunday 29th November 21:11

No not at all. I just saw people saying 'wow just goes to show how strong the chassis is considering all the power you've put through it', when the outriggers actually have little to do with the bracing of the car. The main tubular steel lattice bit does that.

i take it you are refuring to my qoute

slideways said:

and just goes to show how strong the tub is with all that nitros you've put through it

nothing in there about chassis

Yes I was a little confused by the word 'tub'.

[BLUETHUNDER]

TVR653X said:

Outriggers are not structural. They merely support the bodywork somewhat. The car will drive fine without them.

Please stop posting.Its embarrassing!

[Gazzab]

BLUETHUNDER said:

TVR653X said:

Outriggers are not structural. They merely support the bodywork somewhat. The car will drive fine without them.

Please stop posting.Its embarrassing!

+1

[TVR653X]

OK, well I'm just repeating what I was told at a very well known TVR garage in North Yorkshire. What I was told has obviously been proved right, as Derek's car has effectively had no driver's side outrigger, and he hasn't crashed and died, even when putting a ton of nitrous through it.

[dbv8]

TVR653X said:

OK, well I'm just repeating what I was told at a very well known TVR garage in North Yorkshire. What I was told has obviously been proved right, as Derek's car has effectively had no driver's side outrigger, and he hasn't crashed and died, even when putting a ton of nitrous through it.

I know what your saying.
Dont let these bullies get to you.
The outriggers are structural however in that they help hold the body in place and provide the seatbelt points.
I wasnt very well protected in that department for a long time which is a little worrying if you care about such things.

[TVR_owner]

If lesser utilised parts of my chassis looked that bad, I would be wondering about part of the chassis that does the bulk of the work..

Corrosion happens from both sides.

[heightswitch]

dbv8 said:

TVR653X said:

OK, well I'm just repeating what I was told at a very well known TVR garage in North Yorkshire. What I was told has obviously been proved right, as Derek's car has effectively had no driver's side outrigger, and he hasn't crashed and died, even when putting a ton of nitrous through it.

I know what your saying.
Dont let these bullies get to you.
The outriggers are structural however in that they help hold the body in place and provide the seatbelt points.
I wasnt very well protected in that department for a long time which is a little worrying if you care about such things.

They also are there to prevent you being flattened in a low speed side impact???
N.

[dbv8]

TVR_owner said:

If lesser utilised parts of my chassis looked that bad, I would be wondering about part of the chassis that does the bulk of the work..

Corrosion happens from both sides.

Most is solid. The outriggers are completely shot.
The rear suspension arms and antiroll bar points need attention tho