RE: TVR To Return With US V8s
Discussion
Isn't that getting on for twice what a traditional TVR costs, or am I behind the times? It seems an awful lot, I always thought that their low (relative) price WAS one of their traditional values.
After all, quicker than a Porsche twice it's price sounds a lot more "British" than quicker than a porsche that costs slightly more...
After all, quicker than a Porsche twice it's price sounds a lot more "British" than quicker than a porsche that costs slightly more...
Edited by dwilkie on Monday 22 February 12:23
Mr Will said:
MarJay said:
Actually that is the most worrying aspect of it all, that TVR (who, lets face it are likely to fall over again at any moment) is demanding the stop of production of TVR parts... when they aren't exactly going to tool up and start making Chimaera body panels or something. ?
I don't think they are telling people to stop producing them, just to stop calling them "Official" or "Genuine".article said:
Forum reports also suggest several TVR parts suppliers have been served with 'cease and desist' notices by TVR Motors Company, which claims rights to be the UK's sole official parts supplier.
Here we go again 
I like the sound of using a V8 crate engine and really hope they succeed this time. But £70k+ is too much for a TVR and building them in Germany surely removes a large part of their appeal (for many current/potential TVR owners anyway)
Still at least it'll make for lively debate on here for a few days
I like the sound of using a V8 crate engine and really hope they succeed this time. But £70k+ is too much for a TVR and building them in Germany surely removes a large part of their appeal (for many current/potential TVR owners anyway)
Still at least it'll make for lively debate on here for a few days
Springbok said:
I've owned many many TVR's but would I buy a product off these people for £70k or find myself a nearly new Aston V8 for the same money - and with full dealer back-up.
As the Meekhat says - "simples" - the Aston.
Exactly what I was going to say. Would have the almost new AM any day!As the Meekhat says - "simples" - the Aston.
cuneus said:
Advertising by the back door - double standards at PH - why don't you delete this thread
On a more serious note, this could work;
If NS spends the money on a proper marketing campaign. and, If it is backed up by a production run of cars, and not that tired old development Sag they keep wheeling out whenever they fail to relaunch.
Using a proven crate engine to relaunch makes sound sense, as it removes the reliability and parts supply issue from the equation...you can always introduce the in-house engines as an option later.
Personally, looking at the theory, it seems a fair package. A bit unfortunate about the engine as to be honest it could easily get branded 'just another pretty kit car with a Corvette Engine'
The weissmann (or however it's spelt) comes across a more complete and a touch individual package using BMW engines etc.
Perhaps TVR would of been better from a marketing perspective using a supercharged Jaguar V8 or the like, to give the car a bit of Britishness.
The owner/management issue is a whole issue unto itself.
The weissmann (or however it's spelt) comes across a more complete and a touch individual package using BMW engines etc.
Perhaps TVR would of been better from a marketing perspective using a supercharged Jaguar V8 or the like, to give the car a bit of Britishness.
The owner/management issue is a whole issue unto itself.
dwilkie said:
Isn't that getting on for twice what a traditional TVR costs, or am I behind the times? It seems an awful lot, I always thought that their low (relative) price WAS one of their traditional values.
After all, quicker than a Porsche twice it's price sounds a lot more "British" than quicker than a porsche that costs slightly more...
£70K is a lot more realistic in terms of ROI, and in Euros it'll be the same as that elusive £45K TVR...After all, quicker than a Porsche twice it's price sounds a lot more "British" than quicker than a porsche that costs slightly more...
Edited by dwilkie on Monday 22 February 12:23
Part of TVR's problems was that they were rather too cheap - as bosscerbera rightly pointed out earlier, a customer for a £50K is far more difficult to please than one for a £200K car bacause the latter is likely to have a few more 'sensible' vehicles in the stables and is not likely to compare their new toy with a Beemer or Audi.
The demographics for the average TVR buyer in Europe are rather different - older, wealthier, higher proportion of entrepreneurs and other folks of independant means - than they were in the UK and the perception of the marque and its 'problems' is a lot different, too; part of the equation is that the higher pricing allowed the Dutch importers for instance a bit of a safe margin for dealing with problems and warranty claims etc. themselves as they knew factory support could be a bit iffy at times...
Things that strike me.
Firstly a US V8 creat engine is probably the only way the brand can survive, I mean every Dick and Harry knows that the US engines are pretty bullet proof and have a lot of spares/upgrades kicking about for little money. Instantly you have drawn in all those people who would love a TVR but dont really fancy getting their hands dirty or sorting out minor issues.
Secondly Germany ownership of Lambo dosnt seem to have hurt it that much and infact has made the company bigger than ever. If you were to say to someone that you could buy a reliable lambo they would have laughed at you, yet they still make the same bonkers cars but they are much better built.
I am very very worried about the spares though, my one hope would be that spares would get cheaper with a factory backing.
Firstly a US V8 creat engine is probably the only way the brand can survive, I mean every Dick and Harry knows that the US engines are pretty bullet proof and have a lot of spares/upgrades kicking about for little money. Instantly you have drawn in all those people who would love a TVR but dont really fancy getting their hands dirty or sorting out minor issues.
Secondly Germany ownership of Lambo dosnt seem to have hurt it that much and infact has made the company bigger than ever. If you were to say to someone that you could buy a reliable lambo they would have laughed at you, yet they still make the same bonkers cars but they are much better built.
I am very very worried about the spares though, my one hope would be that spares would get cheaper with a factory backing.
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