RE: TVR Confirms 'Vette Power For New Roadster
Discussion
IforB said:
It's hardly going to be a British car anymore though. Owned by a Russian, built in Germany and powered by an American engine. I'm assuming of course that the German company will build it in their normal factory and that Blackpool won't have anything to do with it.
I agree. Is anything actually going to be created in the UK anymore. Is the design and development going to be carried out here? If not and everything goes to Germany etc. then what difference does any of this make anymore. It's just the name and nothing else. TVR in it's original guise will nolonger exist and with that will go it's loyal fan base I would think. Don't really need to worry about any of this as it's probably never going to happen with the verbal diarrhoea Russian in charge.On another point though I had always said TVR should have sourced an off the shelf lump. Shame it took the collapse of the company before anybody realised it.
I'll just have to live with the great memories of my Griff and try and find a new manufacturer to give my affection to. MaClaren here I come. (just need the odd £150,000+ now)
dpbird90 said:
P4ROT said:
Looks like he's planning on slowly removing all of TVRs glorious unique sellings points one by one 
Wat next? German build quality?
Yeah, they might even fit ABS, traction control and front airbags, its sacriligious. Wat next? German build quality?If this ever hits the streets (hybrid - I ask you!) I'll buy a Porsche and eat it nut and bolt at a time.
zooooom said:
TVR approx 1100 kgs 638hp and 604lb ft 
Good luck in the wet with that one.
Hope they are planning on fitting some form of traction control, otherwise there are going to be a fare few drivers taking unexpected trips into barriers and ditches.
The Corvette ZR1 with the same 638hp weighs 1,504kgs and has a '5 mode performance traction management system'. Sounds a bit girly to me.Good luck in the wet with that one.
Hope they are planning on fitting some form of traction control, otherwise there are going to be a fare few drivers taking unexpected trips into barriers and ditches.
Hopefully the TVR will have the traditional long-travel throttle pedal for better control.
blindswelledrat said:
IM suprised at the early cheers for this.
It strikes me that it the details of that are correct- a Russian has bought our darling british sports car brand, removed anything whatsoever British about it, moved production overseas and is redesigning things for America.
It will now be a low volume foreign car manufacturer like any other.
SUre it will still be good, and all that, just now irrelevant.
very well said. It strikes me that it the details of that are correct- a Russian has bought our darling british sports car brand, removed anything whatsoever British about it, moved production overseas and is redesigning things for America.
It will now be a low volume foreign car manufacturer like any other.
SUre it will still be good, and all that, just now irrelevant.
blindswelledrat said:
WHen you look at this- it's bizarre that he actually spent money on TVR when he is creating a completely different car.
WHy bother buying it?
I suspect like most folk who bought the cars, he bought the company in a similar vain - eye's wide shut WHy bother buying it?
I reckon he hadn't a clue what he was buying into way back then.... With regards to comments from others tho; about TVR still being alive had they bought into yank power earlier..... I disagree somewhat.... Had they simply sorted the issues with the S6 (used quality components) they would perhaps still be going.... TVR Power and a few others have proven without doubt what can be done with that engine..Mark said:
dpbird90 said:
P4ROT said:
Looks like he's planning on slowly removing all of TVRs glorious unique sellings points one by one Wat next? German build quality?
Yeah, they might even fit ABS, traction control and front airbags, its sacriligious. Wat next? German build quality?If this ever hits the streets (hybrid - I ask you!) I'll buy a Porsche and eat it nut and bolt at a time.
yzf1070 said:
blindswelledrat said:
WHen you look at this- it's bizarre that he actually spent money on TVR when he is creating a completely different car.
WHy bother buying it?
I suspect like most folk who bought the cars, he bought the company in a similar vain - eye's wide shut WHy bother buying it?
I reckon he hadn't a clue what he was buying into way back then.... With regards to comments from others tho; about TVR still being alive had they bought into yank power earlier..... I disagree somewhat.... Had they simply sorted the issues with the S6 (used quality components) they would perhaps still be going.... TVR Power and a few others have proven without doubt what can be done with that engine.Stu R said:
.Mark said:
dpbird90 said:
P4ROT said:
Looks like he's planning on slowly removing all of TVRs glorious unique sellings points one by one Wat next? German build quality?
Yeah, they might even fit ABS, traction control and front airbags, its sacriligious. Wat next? German build quality?If this ever hits the streets (hybrid - I ask you!) I'll buy a Porsche and eat it nut and bolt at a time.
seismic22 said:
Its pathetic, nobody likes unreliability and so any improvement in this are is great but the fact is nothing will be left of the characterful TVR rawness that helped the company to survive as long as it did and develop such a cult following.
TVR's are going to become just the same as everyother sports car manufacturer, competing for figures, driver aids and perfection instead of continuing in its niche of giving out and out driver pleasure and excitement from the basic recipe of big power and little weight.
However, if the potential market for the latter is greater than the former, then it's sound business. TVR never existed just to keep enthusiasts happy, it just happened that Wheeler was very bloody minded about what the car should be and there was enough of a market who agreed to make it viable.TVR's are going to become just the same as everyother sports car manufacturer, competing for figures, driver aids and perfection instead of continuing in its niche of giving out and out driver pleasure and excitement from the basic recipe of big power and little weight.
These days, people want warranty, economy, reliability along with power - especially when you're handing over the thick end of 50k for it. Too many competitors out there to do it any different.
I expect Smolenski will look at foreign markets (especially the US) before focussing too much on the UK, irrespective of the fact that this is the heartland of its fanbase.
Deposits now being taken Varsity said:
Awesome choice.
Can't beat cubic inches!
Yeah, well . . .Can't beat cubic inches!
1. Yank powered TVRs: a conclusion PH incrowd drew a zillion years ago.
2. but as said then - wot, 5 years ago? - that kinda power would result in 200 mph road-cars that'd need way more R&D than TVR could ever manage. Otherwise it would be silly and dangerous. Reason why the 600 brake Typhoon stopped right where it did BTW.
3. do we believe TVR stories after so long?
:cough:
Let's move on . . . as times did.
As a TVR owner I have no interest in this car whatever. The only thing that is TVR about it is the badge - the rest of it might as well be Chinese and it has no soul. It's a generic sportscar and even with the TVR badge it will be lacking in the heritage that most people who are about to spend £60k will be looking for. It's not going to be build here, it has an American engine, and so for me it might as well be a Geely.
L.F.
L.F.
theRossatron said:
The "Rover" V8 was American anyway so this isn't going to make it any less British. The other factors might, but not having a decent proven, reliable powerplant!
The 3.5 was (Land) Rover-ed and thus British. TVR blue printed them.The original engine was rejected by the Yanks and never used in cars on a large scale.
Stu R said:
.Mark said:
dpbird90 said:
P4ROT said:
Looks like he's planning on slowly removing all of TVRs glorious unique sellings points one by one Wat next? German build quality?
Yeah, they might even fit ABS, traction control and front airbags, its sacriligious. Wat next? German build quality?If this ever hits the streets (hybrid - I ask you!) I'll buy a Porsche and eat it nut and bolt at a time.
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