RE: Racing Team Creates 7.0-litre V8 TVR Sagaris
Discussion
Zippee said:
Jigsjigz said:
:\ i like it but i just hope the build quality of these cars goes up... they already had the power... just door handles and bits would fall off... or the car would blow up.
You've obviously owned a lot of TVRs to have come to that conclusion!Strange how it's usually the people who've never even been in one that come out with the ill-informed crap about build and reliability!
This thing is gorgeous and I'm looking forward to some videos, with SOUND!
EviLScooB said:
550bhp of an engine of 7litres is hardly anything to get excited over, !!!
It is more then just the volume of the engine it is the lightweight compact package. Lighter and smaller then most V-6's including the one in the R33. You pick the one figure (7.0 l) that means the least. Try looking at HP, Tq, engine footprint and volume and engine weight. GIRF said:
EviLScooB said:
550bhp of an engine of 7litres is hardly anything to get excited over, !!!
It is more then just the volume of the engine it is the lightweight compact package. Lighter and smaller then most V-6's including the one in the R33. You pick the one figure (7.0 l) that means the least. Try looking at HP, Tq, engine footprint and volume and engine weight. If you want more power talk to one of our own. this is his site.
http://www.schwartzperformance.com/engines.aspx
dinkel said:
Was in a 500+ brake R33 Skyline last weekend and it made me think: turboed straight 6 in a Sagaris would make more sense than a huge V8.
Am I alone here?
I thought this for along time, didnt realise someone was trying, I heard they would have issue with the massive heat from turbo's in a fibre glass car? Am I alone here?
As for this install, its awesome, would be interested to know the rough costs, This or a 4.5 S6, heart says S6 brain says LS (just so much tunning potential!
Edited by crimbo on Tuesday 4th May 14:44
roverspeed said:
R33 is a straight six.
Nice to see that TVR is making cars, no matter what the source of the engine may be.
Tis true about the potential tho, there must be a huge market already out there for all the LS-x engined cars.
They aren't.... Not yet, maybe, possibly (etc). This is a reworking of a PH'ers personal car.Nice to see that TVR is making cars, no matter what the source of the engine may be.
Tis true about the potential tho, there must be a huge market already out there for all the LS-x engined cars.
Not sure what to think of this.
Turning a TVR into a kit car to give it more power.
Why not pick on any of the myriad of kit car bodies and chassis to stick an LS7 into. Why pick the Sagaris? It seems to be a favourite around here to grab a classic and dump an LS7 in and suggest you've improved the car, when actually you are just trying to capitalise on what people think about TVR.
It can't be easy to shoehorn an LS7 in where the S6 came out. I would venture a fair amount of cutting/altering of the frame had to take place.
In my opinion it would only appeal to those who like the power aspect of the LS7 but actually don't care anything about what TVR meant to joe public like me.
It would seem a great shame to me if the Sagris donor was a proper working model before being chopped, but then thats just me.
100x times better to go to someone like dom and get your power fix that way
Turning a TVR into a kit car to give it more power.
Why not pick on any of the myriad of kit car bodies and chassis to stick an LS7 into. Why pick the Sagaris? It seems to be a favourite around here to grab a classic and dump an LS7 in and suggest you've improved the car, when actually you are just trying to capitalise on what people think about TVR.
It can't be easy to shoehorn an LS7 in where the S6 came out. I would venture a fair amount of cutting/altering of the frame had to take place.
In my opinion it would only appeal to those who like the power aspect of the LS7 but actually don't care anything about what TVR meant to joe public like me.
It would seem a great shame to me if the Sagris donor was a proper working model before being chopped, but then thats just me.
100x times better to go to someone like dom and get your power fix that way
over_the_hill said:
Can I be tad controversial and suggest that might be too much power. Available power and usable power are rarely the same. Getting it all down on the road will not be easy in such a light weight car.
when its easy to get the power on the road, were would be some of the fun/adrenaline This is all fun but aren't there smarter options for V8s?
The LS is a little bit 'yee haa, Billy Bob and me are off to bang our mums''. 7 litres is just willy waving for people in houses on wheels isn't it?
Surely there is a more intelligent V8 that would deliver the same power but more smoothly and wisely?
Quite happy to be flamed but just find it a little pikey.
The LS is a little bit 'yee haa, Billy Bob and me are off to bang our mums''. 7 litres is just willy waving for people in houses on wheels isn't it?
Surely there is a more intelligent V8 that would deliver the same power but more smoothly and wisely?
Quite happy to be flamed but just find it a little pikey.
LittleSwill said:
turbo-ww said:
But you can see how the reputation is hard to shake off - Just ask Lancia about rust. They haven't had a problem with rust for years.
It's strange how differently Mercedes are treated. They just say they've sorted the problem and everybody just accepts it. In 30 years time will Clarkson be telling us a pile of rust is an E Class that was left outside for 5 minutes?There is no denying the effectiveness of the LS engines in making lots of reliable horsepower coupled with more torque than you'd ever need. They are very tuneable, sound great are light and compact and best of all for a TVR - they are mechanically simple. I'm sure a high revving 48v quad cam type engine with 500+ hp would be great, but I can't think of any that would be as simple to install. Also remember that the quad cam V8 tend to be very wide - the LS engines are two-valve per cylinder and are therefore much narrower.
I always thought that putting that much power and torque to the road would be a real challenge with a TVR's light weight and relatively narrow rear rubber (as oppose to the 315+ sections of say the Z06) but Brummie's LS Cerbera seems to cope remarkably well and seems fairly tractable. It clearly elevates the car to the premier league in terms of performance i.e. mid to low 11 quarters and 200mph+ top end. In gear times are borderline scary with all that torque as well.
I can't wait to see/read the reviews of this Sag......
I always thought that putting that much power and torque to the road would be a real challenge with a TVR's light weight and relatively narrow rear rubber (as oppose to the 315+ sections of say the Z06) but Brummie's LS Cerbera seems to cope remarkably well and seems fairly tractable. It clearly elevates the car to the premier league in terms of performance i.e. mid to low 11 quarters and 200mph+ top end. In gear times are borderline scary with all that torque as well.
I can't wait to see/read the reviews of this Sag......
crimbo said:
dinkel said:
Was in a 500+ brake R33 Skyline last weekend and it made me think: turboed straight 6 in a Sagaris would make more sense than a huge V8.
Am I alone here?
I thought this for along time, didnt realise someone was trying, I heard they would have issue with the massive heat from turbo's in a fibre glass car? Am I alone here?
As for this install, its awesome, would be interested to know the rough costs, This or a 4.5 S6, heart says S6 brain says LS (just so much tunning potential!
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