Winter tyres vol 2

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George111

6,930 posts

252 months

Friday 23rd December 2016
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diddles said:
Pooh said:
Slow said:
I dont buy into the whole better below 7 degree stuff. I drive to the conditions and the winters are purely for the snow as theres large ungritted/unplowed hills.
The fact is, a good winter tyre will give you better grip and shorter stopping distances on a cold wet road than a summer tyre, particularly a high performance summer tyre. How do you drive to the conditions, do you drive everywhere more slowly?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/advice/should-i-bu...
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Driving everywhere slowly during the winter months with the added hassle of getting stuck really sucks.

I choose to continue to enjoy driving through the winter months as I fit the correct boots for the job.
Your profile suggests you live in North Scotland . . . which if true probably means you would benefit from winter tyres. Have you been to London recently ? Or even Hertfordshire ? In the winter . . . the correct "boot" for the job here probably is a good quality summer tyre, not a winter tyre smile We don't get snow here apart from maybe a couple of days a year and even frosts are rare (3 this year ?) so winter tyres would give most of us less traction, less stopping ability and increased fuel consumption compared to the tyres on the car in the summer.






diddles

446 posts

200 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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George111 said:
diddles said:
Pooh said:
Slow said:
I dont buy into the whole better below 7 degree stuff. I drive to the conditions and the winters are purely for the snow as theres large ungritted/unplowed hills.
The fact is, a good winter tyre will give you better grip and shorter stopping distances on a cold wet road than a summer tyre, particularly a high performance summer tyre. How do you drive to the conditions, do you drive everywhere more slowly?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/advice/should-i-bu...
+1

Driving everywhere slowly during the winter months with the added hassle of getting stuck really sucks.

I choose to continue to enjoy driving through the winter months as I fit the correct boots for the job.
Your profile suggests you live in North Scotland . . . which if true probably means you would benefit from winter tyres. Have you been to London recently ? Or even Hertfordshire ? In the winter . . . the correct "boot" for the job here probably is a good quality summer tyre, not a winter tyre smile We don't get snow here apart from maybe a couple of days a year and even frosts are rare (3 this year ?) so winter tyres would give most of us less traction, less stopping ability and increased fuel consumption compared to the tyres on the car in the summer.

If I lived in London I probably wouldn't even want to own/run a car. If I did it would run summers all year as it would do in any area of south east.

Slow however lives in the north of Scotland. I find there are clear benefits from running a good winter tyre though Nov>March here in the Highlands.

I see no difference in MPG running winters from summers.

dvs_dave

8,645 posts

226 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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Sounds like quite a few folks here.

Pooh

3,692 posts

254 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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George111 said:
Your profile suggests you live in North Scotland . . . which if true probably means you would benefit from winter tyres. Have you been to London recently ? Or even Hertfordshire ? In the winter . . . the correct "boot" for the job here probably is a good quality summer tyre, not a winter tyre smile We don't get snow here apart from maybe a couple of days a year and even frosts are rare (3 this year ?) so winter tyres would give most of us less traction, less stopping ability and increased fuel consumption compared to the tyres on the car in the summer.

confused Nobody suggested that somebody in your situation should fit winter tyres.confused
It's all about having the correct tyres for the winter road conditions where you drive.

Edited by Pooh on Saturday 24th December 08:11

T16OLE

2,946 posts

192 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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I have a set of winter tyres for my 640d, Michelin front & Dunlop rear but at the minute I can't see the point fitting them.

It won't be long before fitting them this winter will be pointless.

George111

6,930 posts

252 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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Pooh said:
George111 said:
Your profile suggests you live in North Scotland . . . which if true probably means you would benefit from winter tyres. Have you been to London recently ? Or even Hertfordshire ? In the winter . . . the correct "boot" for the job here probably is a good quality summer tyre, not a winter tyre smile We don't get snow here apart from maybe a couple of days a year and even frosts are rare (3 this year ?) so winter tyres would give most of us less traction, less stopping ability and increased fuel consumption compared to the tyres on the car in the summer.

confused Nobody suggested that somebody in your situation should fit winter tyres.confused
It's all about having the correct tyres for the winter road conditions where you drive.

Edited by Pooh on Saturday 24th December 08:11
People come on this thread and do state that - "It's winter so you've got to have winter tyres !" when that's not the case. Winter means different things to different people.

George111

6,930 posts

252 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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diddles said:
George111 said:
diddles said:
Pooh said:
Slow said:
I dont buy into the whole better below 7 degree stuff. I drive to the conditions and the winters are purely for the snow as theres large ungritted/unplowed hills.
The fact is, a good winter tyre will give you better grip and shorter stopping distances on a cold wet road than a summer tyre, particularly a high performance summer tyre. How do you drive to the conditions, do you drive everywhere more slowly?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/advice/should-i-bu...
+1

Driving everywhere slowly during the winter months with the added hassle of getting stuck really sucks.

I choose to continue to enjoy driving through the winter months as I fit the correct boots for the job.
Your profile suggests you live in North Scotland . . . which if true probably means you would benefit from winter tyres. Have you been to London recently ? Or even Hertfordshire ? In the winter . . . the correct "boot" for the job here probably is a good quality summer tyre, not a winter tyre smile We don't get snow here apart from maybe a couple of days a year and even frosts are rare (3 this year ?) so winter tyres would give most of us less traction, less stopping ability and increased fuel consumption compared to the tyres on the car in the summer.

If I lived in London I probably wouldn't even want to own/run a car. If I did it would run summers all year as it would do in any area of south east.

Slow however lives in the north of Scotland. I find there are clear benefits from running a good winter tyre though Nov>March here in the Highlands.

I see no difference in MPG running winters from summers.
That's what I said !

Some winters do cause lower MPG, just look at the new tyre rating to see that.

Pooh

3,692 posts

254 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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George111 said:
People come on this thread and do state that - "It's winter so you've got to have winter tyres".
I haven't seen anybody say that.

Freds

947 posts

138 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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Pooh said:
George111 said:
People come on this thread and do state that - "It's winter so you've got to have winter tyres".
I haven't seen anybody say that.
Indeed......calm yourself George smile

A900ss

3,253 posts

153 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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I've just ordered my Winters and others have said, it has been very mild here so far this winter (Gloucestershire). However, I'm off to Germany in February for a few weeks and winters are mandonatory. I'll also be popping into Switzerland so even though it's touch and go if I need them here, Gloucestershire, I might just as well fit them now if I'm buying them.

unfortunately the winters I used last year on my Alps trip won't fit my new car.

PS - Ordered Pirelli Sottozero 3’s

lbc

3,218 posts

218 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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George111 said:
so winter tyres would give most of us less traction, less stopping ability and increased fuel consumption compared to the tyres on the car in the summer.
Unless you drive everywhere at 100mph, it's unlikely.

One of my cars has Winter tyres all year round as it's not a car that I usually drive like a madman. smile

RichardM5

1,741 posts

137 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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I suspect that with a good quality standard all weather tyre most people most of the time have no need for winter tyres in England. Obviously the need will depend on where you live, the type of roads you dive on, the type of car you drive and the type of tyre you have in the summer. If you have a 1.2L Ford Fiesta and drive on the south coast and the chances are you will never really need winter tyres. Drive a powerful rear wheel drive car on high performance tyres in the North of England and you'll probably end up stuck without them at some point.

Personally, I always fit winter tyres to my powerful rear wheel drive cars in the North of England. Touch wood, I've never been stuck and on more than one occasion have helped pull 4x4s on summer tyres up hills or out of ditches - much to the incredulity of their owners!


ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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-3 C today here for me gentlemen on my way to work. Little bit of sliding around on our side road. No room for drifting attempts.

RizzoTheRat

25,191 posts

193 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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Finally got round to changing mine, and broke my locking wheel nut tool trying to undo one of the bolts. Bought 4 new non locking bolts and then the local main dealer broke thier tool on the same bolt. Ordered a new tool but some the remains of the old one are still jammed in the bolt head so might have to get it drilled out. Bugger

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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was -5 Yesterday, i took it steady.

i heard on the radio that the last 4 winters have been the mildest for a long time.

George111

6,930 posts

252 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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A balmy 20 C on my commute today, slight obstruction entering the kitchen this morning caused a minor bunching of traffic, but the walk to the office was clear and necessitated nothing more than casual observance of the wiring for the new firewall laying on the floor. Winter tyres ? No, M&S Suede moccasin slippers . . . so much more stylish than the Continental 850s wink

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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George111 said:
M&S
Come on George. This is not very PH.

Bob_Defly

3,697 posts

232 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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Got mine on.



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Monkeylegend

26,465 posts

232 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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Bob_Defly said:
Got mine on.



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It's a good job your tyres are black wink

Trustmeimadoctor

12,637 posts

156 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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just had pilot sport 4's fitted am i doing this right? had more issues this morning even though it was warmer than yesterday but that was on the old tyres