Winter tyres vol 2

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TEKNOPUG

18,971 posts

206 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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Please be aware that if you buy your tyres via Mytyres and select the fully-fitted option, then choose your tyre-fitter and select the time & date.....it doesn't actually mean that Mytyres have contacted the tyre-fitter and made the appointment for you....irked

Bonefish Blues

26,805 posts

224 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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TEKNOPUG said:
Please be aware that if you buy your tyres via Mytyres and select the fully-fitted option, then choose your tyre-fitter and select the time & date.....it doesn't actually mean that Mytyres have contacted the tyre-fitter and made the appointment for you....irked
I've heard that elsewhere, too.

Edited by Bonefish Blues on Sunday 16th November 18:45

R1gtr

3,426 posts

155 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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jon- said:
R1gtr said:
What tyres will be best for grip in Snow? that is my main priority, noise, wet braking etc are lower down the list.
Had a set of Vredestein Snowtrac 3 on a previous car and they were superb,looks like they are not available any more so looking for something even better, any ideas?
At that price point, the Nokian WR D3. Little more, Conti TS850 or Goodyear Ultragrip 9.
Cheers will have a shop round for best deals on those.

Sonic

4,007 posts

208 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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blueST said:
superlightr said:
how does it work with the tyre pressure monitors? Ordered a wheel and winter tyre set for a mk7 golf assume I can disable the TPM warning system in the golf?
If its like our cars, Merc and BMW, the TPMS works using the ABS sensors, there are no sensors in the wheels so you can fit anything. You might have to do a reset if the rolling radius is a bit different to your summers, but other than that, no problem.
I was just coming to post about this as i've been caught with a 2014 Ford Fiesta Zetec.

I knew it had TPMS but assumed it was much like my BMW, where it uses the ABS sensor to work it out, so you just need to re-calibrate the system when you change tyre pressures or indeed wheels.

But unbeknown to me the Ford has embedded sensors in the tyre valves, which means now i've changed to a winter set of wheels without sensors the bloody computer alert goes off with a TPMS malfunction every time you drive it which is very annoying.

To the best of my knowledge there is no way to turn this off, so it's a simple case of put up with the annoyance, put the sensors from the OEM wheels into the winters which kind of defies the point of having 2 easy-to-change sets of wheels, or get a new set of sensors (£250) put into winters (£40) plus re-calibration tool (£50) to be able to update the computer whenever you change the wheels back.

What a complete fking ballache!


Edited by Sonic on Monday 17th November 13:37

TA14

12,722 posts

259 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Sonic said:
To the best of my knowledge there is no way to turn this off, so it's a simple case of put up with the annoyance, put the sensors from the OEM wheels into the winters which kind of defies the point of having 2 easy-to-change sets of wheels, or get a new set of sensors (£250) put into winters (£40) plus re-calibration tool (£50) to be able to update the computer whenever you change the wheels back.

What a complete fking ballache!
What a nightmare. National will do it for £400+ https://www.national.co.uk/tpms-sensor-valve-servi...

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

202 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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TA14 said:
Sonic said:
To the best of my knowledge there is no way to turn this off, so it's a simple case of put up with the annoyance, put the sensors from the OEM wheels into the winters which kind of defies the point of having 2 easy-to-change sets of wheels, or get a new set of sensors (£250) put into winters (£40) plus re-calibration tool (£50) to be able to update the computer whenever you change the wheels back.

What a complete fking ballache!
What a nightmare. National will do it for £400+ https://www.national.co.uk/tpms-sensor-valve-servi...
I have this (Honda) but I can reset it from the dash menu system...are you sure you can't do it?

Fox-

13,241 posts

247 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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hondafanatic said:
I have this (Honda) but I can reset it from the dash menu system...are you sure you can't do it?
He can't reset something that isnt there, the problem he has is that in his car the sensors are in the wheel. In your car it probably uses rotation speed to calculate whether there is a puncture, so no additional sensor is required.

Sonic

4,007 posts

208 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Fox- said:
hondafanatic said:
I have this (Honda) but I can reset it from the dash menu system...are you sure you can't do it?
He can't reset something that isnt there, the problem he has is that in his car the sensors are in the wheel. In your car it probably uses rotation speed to calculate whether there is a puncture, so no additional sensor is required.
Correct.

In the BMW it's easy... fit whatever wheels / tyres you want, go to menu, reset TPMS. Job done.

In the Ford you do the same and you get constant TPMS errors no matter how often you reset the system as there are no pressure sensors in the new wheels for it to detect. Only permanent solution is to get TPMS sensors installed and sync'd with the car really. Bugger frown

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

202 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Fox- said:
He can't reset something that isnt there, the problem he has is that in his car the sensors are in the wheel. In your car it probably uses rotation speed to calculate whether there is a puncture, so no additional sensor is required.
Aaaaah I understand now. Thank you :-)

Targarama

14,635 posts

284 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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I need some all-seasons for the wife's Fiesta Titanium. I can't find anything decent. Anyone help?

I need 195/45 x 16.

Seems Vredestein don't do Quatracs for this size, nor Kleber their Quadtracker.

I don't want to get winters if I can help it.

dtmpower

3,972 posts

246 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Targarama said:
I need some all-seasons for the wife's Fiesta Titanium. I can't find anything decent. Anyone help?

I need 195/45 x 16.
How about a 185/50 or a 205/40 ?

TEKNOPUG

18,971 posts

206 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Sonic said:
Correct.

In the BMW it's easy... fit whatever wheels / tyres you want, go to menu, reset TPMS. Job done.

In the Ford you do the same and you get constant TPMS errors no matter how often you reset the system as there are no pressure sensors in the new wheels for it to detect. Only permanent solution is to get TPMS sensors installed and sync'd with the car really. Bugger frown
Surely there is a fuse that can be pulled?

RammyMP

6,784 posts

154 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Sonic said:
I was just coming to post about this as i've been caught with a 2014 Ford Fiesta Zetec.

I knew it had TPMS but assumed it was much like my BMW, where it uses the ABS sensor to work it out, so you just need to re-calibrate the system when you change tyre pressures or indeed wheels.

But unbeknown to me the Ford has embedded sensors in the tyre valves, which means now i've changed to a winter set of wheels without sensors the bloody computer alert goes off with a TPMS malfunction every time you drive it which is very annoying.

To the best of my knowledge there is no way to turn this off, so it's a simple case of put up with the annoyance, put the sensors from the OEM wheels into the winters which kind of defies the point of having 2 easy-to-change sets of wheels, or get a new set of sensors (£250) put into winters (£40) plus re-calibration tool (£50) to be able to update the computer whenever you change the wheels back.

What a complete fking ballache!


Edited by Sonic on Monday 17th November 13:37
Or your could drive round with the summer tyres in the boot? What is the range on the sensors? Will they be detected at that distance?

Sonic

4,007 posts

208 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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TEKNOPUG said:
Sonic said:
Correct.

In the BMW it's easy... fit whatever wheels / tyres you want, go to menu, reset TPMS. Job done.

In the Ford you do the same and you get constant TPMS errors no matter how often you reset the system as there are no pressure sensors in the new wheels for it to detect. Only permanent solution is to get TPMS sensors installed and sync'd with the car really. Bugger frown
Surely there is a fuse that can be pulled?
I was trying to find out if this was possible looking through from Ford forums, but apparently not. I might have a further look however and see what i can find.

Sonic

4,007 posts

208 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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RammyMP said:
Or your could drive round with the summer tyres in the boot? What is the range on the sensors? Will they be detected at that distance?
It is a 5dr but it kind of limits the boot capacity somewhat hehe

RammyMP

6,784 posts

154 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Sonic said:
It is a 5dr but it kind of limits the boot capacity somewhat hehe
Just a thought! getmecoat

smifffymoto

4,563 posts

206 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Targarama said:
I need some all-seasons for the wife's Fiesta Titanium. I can't find anything decent. Anyone help?

I need 195/45 x 16.

Seems Vredestein don't do Quatracs for this size, nor Kleber their Quadtracker.

I don't want to get winters if I can help it.
I used to run Nokian WR G2 all year round when we lived in the Pyrenees.Firstley on an Outback,then a Passat and lastly a Pathfinder,with no problems at all,winter or summer over Cols and very twisty roads.


There is nothing to worry about.

FiF

44,121 posts

252 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Any test reports on the WR SUV 3 yet?

My WR G2 SUV will see out this winter but just getting prepared in case need toget some replacements.

These look like the WR G3 SUV sold as all weather in North America/Canada.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Targarama said:
I need some all-seasons for the wife's Fiesta Titanium. I can't find anything decent. Anyone help?

I need 195/45 x 16.

Seems Vredestein don't do Quatracs for this size, nor Kleber their Quadtracker.

I don't want to get winters if I can help it.
Kleber do a quadraxer in that size http://www.reifen.com/de/TyreSize/DetailTyre/CarAl...
v expensive though

185/55 you'll get a Quatrac

vrsmxtb

2,002 posts

157 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Winter wheels put on this morning - no stuck rears as I copper-greased them when the alloys went on earlier in the year, and no stuck locking nuts as I binned these after several issues. So much easier!

Love the quietness and slightly smoother ride!