Can anybody make bushes???

Can anybody make bushes???

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W4SIM

Original Poster:

8 posts

117 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Hello all

Got a major problem with a Mercedes which i never expected.

Basically the bottom shocker bushes on both the rear shockers have worn out really badly and need to be replaced. Major problem is that these bushes are not available separately from Mercedes, in another cash stripping bid they list the bushes as complete with the shockers.

Iv tried everywhere to find an alternative but to no joy.

So is there any company out there who can maybe custom make bushes for me?

Thanks


S0 What

3,358 posts

172 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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most polybush manufactureers offer the sevice, flowfow do and deflex ? or you can make your own using two-pack liquid pouring polyurethane smile

found a how too here
http://www.nagara.co.uk/MakingBushes.htm

or try these lists of ready made Miscellaneous Bushes

http://www.polybush.co.uk/shop/468_Accessories__Mi...

Edited by S0 What on Thursday 24th July 17:41

HumbleJim

27,006 posts

183 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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W4SIM said:
Hello all

Got a major problem with a Mercedes which i never expected.

Basically the bottom shocker bushes on both the rear shockers have worn out really badly and need to be replaced. Major problem is that these bushes are not available separately from Mercedes, in another cash stripping bid they list the bushes as complete with the shockers.

Iv tried everywhere to find an alternative but to no joy.

So is there any company out there who can maybe custom make bushes for me?

Thanks

I replaced both my rear shocks for under £100 from these guys.

http://www.carshockabsorbers.co.uk/?gclid=CMjBk-O2...

Crafty_

13,277 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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If the bush is that knackered the shock is probably not far behind, just replace them ?

W4SIM

Original Poster:

8 posts

117 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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HumbleJim said:
I replaced both my rear shocks for under £100 from these guys.

http://www.carshockabsorbers.co.uk/?gclid=CMjBk-O2...
The shockers are perfectly fine, just the bushes that are worn.

W4SIM

Original Poster:

8 posts

117 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Crafty_ said:
If the bush is that knackered the shock is probably not far behind, just replace them ?
The shockers are actually hydro-pneumatic, as in fluid controlled. They are in perfect working order, which im rather thankful for as each shocker is only £1,400.

spitfire4v8

3,991 posts

181 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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http://www.fibet.co.uk/products/

have a look through the online catalogues from these guys .. see if there's anything that will do.

also

http://www.antivibrationmethods.com/product/tb-bus...

Edited by spitfire4v8 on Thursday 24th July 19:55

W4SIM

Original Poster:

8 posts

117 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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S0 What said:
most polybush manufactureers offer the sevice, flowfow do and deflex ? or you can make your own using two-pack liquid pouring polyurethane smile

found a how too here
http://www.nagara.co.uk/MakingBushes.htm

or try these lists of ready made Miscellaneous Bushes

http://www.polybush.co.uk/shop/468_Accessories__Mi...

Edited by S0 What on Thursday 24th July 17:41
Polybush havnt got anything of the same size, but the first idea of making your own is not too bad at all. Probably wont get it right the first time but who cares, at that price its got to be worth a shot. Dont know if i have the skill or the patience though.

W4SIM

Original Poster:

8 posts

117 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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spitfire4v8 said:
http://www.fibet.co.uk/products/

have a look through the online catalogues from these guys .. see if there's anything that will do.

also

http://www.antivibrationmethods.com/product/tb-bus...

Edited by spitfire4v8 on Thursday 24th July 19:55
These both seem the ideal places, dont know about the costs involved but both seem to be able to custom make the bushes.

Will be on the phone to them tomorrow and see what they can offer.

Thank you very much.


spitfire4v8

3,991 posts

181 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Be careful of poured polyurethane bushes they're usually full of air bubbles and have a poor strength,
The best poly bushes I've used are superflex, they're forced into moulds under pressure resulting in an extremely resilient high strength bush. Very little else in a poly bush comes close under hard working conditions.
For a damper end bush though bonded rubber is your best bet by far.

HumbleJim

27,006 posts

183 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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W4SIM said:
as each shocker is only £1,400.
yikes I understand the problem.

W4SIM

Original Poster:

8 posts

117 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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HumbleJim said:
yikes I understand the problem.
Im glad someone does.

chazola

459 posts

157 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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I've seen a lot worse than those smile Are you getting any movement then? A lot of old Mercs have worn looking bushes but there isn't actually any play in the parts... Have you tried a breaker like Mercman for a good used pair?

W4SIM

Original Poster:

8 posts

117 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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chazola said:
I've seen a lot worse than those smile Are you getting any movement then? A lot of old Mercs have worn looking bushes but there isn't actually any play in the parts... Have you tried a breaker like Mercman for a good used pair?
Just for the sake of it iv been trying to get a replacement shocker for the last 2 years and iv yet to see someone here in the UK with one.

There are one or 2 available on ebay from the USA but by the time they get here its still about £500 each. The risk your taking there is that they might arrive and the bushes on them might be on their way out as well.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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There are quite a few companies that make bonded rubber bushes in a range of sizes, usually for industrial applications. If you can get accurate ID, OD and width measurements you might be able to find something suitable.

http://www.fibet.co.uk/products/
http://www.polymax.co.uk/fully-bonded-bushes
http://www.aegisrubberengineering.co.uk/

PaulKemp

979 posts

145 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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Polybush can be turned down in a lathe
Metal insert should be a mm longer than shock mount and polybush
The idea is that the steel insert clamps to the bracket on the car and the polybush turns with the shock
Buy one slightly bigger and get an engineer with a lathe to fit it
That should be a lot less than your quoted prices

Cloggie

196 posts

176 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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Use SuperPro's 'find my bush' service:

http://superpro.com.au/why-superpro/find-my-bush-s...

RC Developments

83 posts

124 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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Very easy to turn up a Delrin bush on a lathe, much stiffer and stronger than polybushes.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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RC Developments said:
Very easy to turn up a Delrin bush on a lathe, much stiffer and stronger than polybushes.
Acetal (and other hard bush materials) often aren't a good choice for damper bushes. As well as not providing much in the way of isolation from noise/vibration, any change in angle between the mounting points over the suspension motion will cause binding.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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Cloggie said:
Use SuperPro's 'find my bush' service
I'm sure I've seen an advert for that service on a specialist website...