Best way of sealing brake banjo after removing caliper

Best way of sealing brake banjo after removing caliper

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Mike_Mac

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664 posts

200 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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What seemed like a simple question is now really frustrating me!

I'm planning on removing my calipers to get them repainted professionally and want to seal the banjo connection on the brake lines to stop the majority of fluid loss and prevent moisture getting in. They will be off the car for about a week, so it's important to get a good seal.

So far, after plenty of searching, the options seem to be:

- Ram a Golf Tee in there (Yeah Right!).
- Insert some hose (will silicone work?) into the banjos and seal it tight by threading a bolt through the hose (might work!).
- Use an Acorn Nut to stop up the banjo bolt aperture (Again, might work, but not sure if the thread will be tight enough to stop fluid loss).

Would any of those options work well, or if not, is there any, reasonably professional, way to do this and get a good seal?

ETA: don't want to clamp the lines and risk damaging them...

lanan

814 posts

228 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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A condom and a tywrap smile
Don't ask.....!!!

Mike_Mac

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664 posts

200 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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lanan said:
A condom and a tywrap smile
Don't ask.....!!!
biggrin

Not a bad alternative

cambiker71

444 posts

186 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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Put a suitable sized nut and bolt through the banjo using the old copper washers to seal it once nipped up. Make sure to fit new copper washers when you refit the calipers.

finlo

3,761 posts

203 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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Why bother, you've got to bleed it all anyway.

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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Or of course, regular pipe clamps.



Or...if you depress teh brake pedal slightly and shove something in to hold it there...the master cylinder hole to reservoir will be covered and due to the small bore of brake pipes, virtually no fluid will move in the system. So fluid loss out any unbolted hoses should be minimal.

ie like sticking your finger over the end of a straw with liquid in it

Mike_Mac

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200 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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finlo said:
Why bother, you've got to bleed it all anyway.
Because I'd rather not let my entire system bleed all over my drive for a week (maybe more) and get more air in there than I need to - especially if it gets into the ABS system or Master Cylinder.

Mike_Mac

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664 posts

200 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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cambiker71 and stevieturbo - thanks for those suggestions smile - I liked the clamp idea, but would need 4 the same size. I was just wondering where I could get four when I remembered that I had 4 normal clamps in the garage anyway!!!

Just need to put something in between them at each end as a seal (rubber washers etc) and it should be jobbed! biggrin

ETA: Butyl gloves! Have a pair knocking around somewhere. Just need to cut the fingers off one, invert them, stick them over the banjo, then clamp them using rubber washers at either end to keep a good seal.

Sorted!

Edited by Mike_Mac on Tuesday 22 March 08:30


Edited by Mike_Mac on Tuesday 22 March 08:44

E-bmw

9,219 posts

152 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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cambiker71 said:
Put a suitable sized nut and bolt through the banjo using the old copper washers to seal it once nipped up. Make sure to fit new copper washers when you refit the calipers.
^^^^Wot 'e said.

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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E-bmw said:
^^^^Wot 'e said.
Brake fluid can capillary down the threads with that way and out past the nut.

The simplest and free method is simply depressing the brake pedal slightly and also doesnt matter if you have teflon hoses which you dont want to clamp
And this covers all 4 corners in one simple action.

The other Sealey etc clamp tools are handy for brake and fuel fittings

Dave Brand

928 posts

268 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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Remove the cap from the reservoir, cover the top of the reservoir with cling film, replace the cap. If air can't get in fluid won't leak out.

The Wookie

13,948 posts

228 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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stevieturbo said:
Or of course, regular pipe clamps.



Or...if you depress teh brake pedal slightly and shove something in to hold it there...the master cylinder hole to reservoir will be covered and due to the small bore of brake pipes, virtually no fluid will move in the system. So fluid loss out any unbolted hoses should be minimal.

ie like sticking your finger over the end of a straw with liquid in it
This absolutely all the way, I use this trick virtually every day. On the few cars with an odd setup that it doesn't work on then I'll use a freezer bag over the brake fluid reservoir filler and screw it down with the cap. Clingfilm isn't strong enough to maintain a seal.

Worth mentioning that with the first method you should release the light pressure with the bleed nipple before undoing the banjo or it gets quite messy.

Mike_Mac

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664 posts

200 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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Cheers guys - plenty of good stuff there. Will probably combine a few methods, thanks!