Landsail LS588 tyres...anyone have any feedback?

[Mr2Mike]

vsonix said:

My mate deals in tyres and people keep comi9ng back for more Landsail, 3A, Joyroad etc.

Plenty of people will keep coming back for any old st as long as it's cheap.

[MethylatedSpirit]

Hankook are available in your size

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=110...

Hankook are OEM tyres on quite a few new cars. They certainly aren't cheap and nasty.

[DegsyE39]

OP i found kumho's reasonable cant be that much more than landsails surely..

Its not brand snobbery it's a preference for avoiding ditches, Ive been unfortunate enough to experience accelerras mohawks etc. fine in the dry, For the price i know its not that PH but i'd plump for part worns over budgets.

[DegsyE39]

MethylatedSpirit said:

Hankook are available in your size

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=110...

Hankook are OEM tyres on quite a few new cars. They certainly aren't cheap and nasty.

+1 hankook another good shout

[Krikkit]

Am I the only one who finds it slightly ironic to spend a wodge of cash on an ostentatious 4x4 with huge rims and then skimp on the tyres?

[Blue Oval84]

+2 for Hankook.

OP - you've got a lovely car, treat it to something that's not ste

I have to say that the last time I was in the market for tyres I just threw caution to the wind and bought some Continentals, didn't regret it at all. The car was transformed compared to the Hankook and Kumho mix that were on before (and I rate Hankooks reasonably well!)

When I bought my old Mondeo it had some chinese ste on and used to understeer like mad in the wet. Fitting some Bridgestones transformed it again. I have to say I'm a bit of a convert to just buying quality now.

[HustleRussell]

Krikkit said:

Am I the only one who finds it slightly ironic to spend a wodge of cash on an ostentatious 4x4 with huge rims and then skimp on the tyres?

No. It's so common though.

[TooMany2cvs]

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m79b0s211p0/
Wow. Not much choice there.

£225 Conti
£145 Nexen
£120 Nankang
£120-80 Random AliBaba st

Oh, and Nankang Rollnex? Seriously...?
The tyres are made out of naff old jumpers?

[ArsE92]

HustleRussell said:

Krikkit said:

Am I the only one who finds it slightly ironic to spend a wodge of cash on an ostentatious 4x4 with huge rims and then skimp on the tyres?

No. It's so common though.

But why is it skimping if they perform adequately?

OP - my wife put a set on the rear of my 335i when the PSS's needed replacing. They felt very weird for a week or so, almost like they were overinflated. They've been fine for a few months now though.

I probably wouldn't go for them again though just because the PSS are so much better.

[Blue Oval84]

So for me it would be either the Continental or the Nexen if I was really skint.

If I couldn't stretch to the Nexen I'd be questioning whether I could afford to run the car.

[Trabi601]

ArsE92 said:

But why is it skimping if they perform adequately?

OP - my wife put a set on the rear of my 335i when the PSS's needed replacing. They felt very weird for a week or so, almost like they were overinflated. They've been fine for a few months now though.

I probably wouldn't go for them again though just because the PSS are so much better.

You only find their limitations when you really don't want to be finding them.

They may be fine when pottering around to the shops etc., but when someone pulls out in front of you and they take 25% extra distance to stop, that's when you wish you'd spent more.

The only reason I have cheapies on the Boxster is that I had a choice between cheapies or cancelling my track day and losing 200 quid. As it happens they seem to be fine - but I only know this because they've been properly tested on the track. Still worried about their wet performance, though.

[steve-5snwi]

We have had them as part of wheel and tyre packages and new they are not bad in the dry but not brilliant. They were also fitted to our A4 along with bent replica wheels. It drove awful and the wear rate was horrible, they had tread on the outside but they almost had the saw tooth affect on the inside as well as showing canvas in places. They should be named landfill imo

[steve-5snwi]

We have had them as part of wheel and tyre packages and new they are not bad in the dry but not brilliant. They were also fitted to our A4 along with bent replica wheels. It drove awful and the wear rate was horrible, they had tread on the outside but they almost had the saw tooth affect on the inside as well as showing canvas in places. They should be named landfill imo

[J4CKO]

Blue Oval84 said:

So for me it would be either the Continental or the Nexen if I was really skint.

If I couldn't stretch to the Nexen I'd be questioning whether I could afford to run the car.

Yeah, buy a car with smaller wheels and tyres you can afford.

Lots trying to kid themselves that Chinese tyres aren't st, some are less bad than others, but basically buy a name you have heard of that isn't half the price of the normal brands, don't drop below the Kumho/Falken level.

I have experienced Nankangs, Jinyus, Fullruns, Stunners, Mohawks, doublestars and they were all below standard, you end up noticing them, abs kicking in, bit of under steer or oversteer, wheelspin in third gear in the wet in a people carrier, that's because they are toss, you can save money on some things but not really on tyres, been there done that.

[anonymous-user]

One of my friends runs Landsails on his Audi with no complaints,

My current car is running Bridgestone Potenzas all round which are absolute st! Mild acceleration away from lights makes the TCS flash on and they seem way too soft. They have only done around 3000 miles of motorway work too. I can't see chinese ditch finders being much worse.

[Benbay001]

My dad fitted new "Bigcrash" (or similar) tyres to his Mondeo because he intended to sell it a few months later.

A few days later he aquaplaned badly for the first time in years on the motorway but kept it all together.

He commented "Good job i fitted new tyres or it could have been worse".

Urgh.

[Ninja59]

Blue Oval84 said:

Pretty sure that the performance ratings are under a self-cert system by the manufacturers are they not?

Therefore I would treat any good ratings for a cheap ste brand like Landsail with a huge degree of caution.

All EU performance ratings are pretty much nonsense, correct they are all self certification though.

Efficiency - many tyres are getting more efficient, but you will notice some of the ones with the most grip provide terrible rolling resistance for obvious reasons, IMHO I just completely ignore that one.

Noise - possibly a consideration for those with larger tyres, but overall pretty much has little to no effect on my final decision.

Rain stopping distance - done in a straight line critically and therefore can make some rather poor tyres look a little better than they really are as the car is completely balanced and flat, not something that occurs in many external tyre tests where the car is on a corner and therefore loaded in different places and therefore is far more representative of how many tyres perform under additional pressure.

[jimxms]

DegsyE39 said:

MethylatedSpirit said:

Hankook are available in your size

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=110...

Hankook are OEM tyres on quite a few new cars. They certainly aren't cheap and nasty.

+1 hankook another good shout

I'd go for those in a shot, but their wet weather performance is rated E, which has got to be pretty poor especially if the posts above about the EU markings being self-assigned is true.

[HustleRussell]

jimxms said:

I'd go for those in a shot, but their wet weather performance is rated E, which has got to be pretty poor especially if the posts above about the EU markings being self-assigned is true.

Yeah Hankooks are probably going to be much worse than Landsails...

Seriously, the ratings are bks- look for independent tyre tests

[Howard-]

They will be absolute complete and utter st. They'll probably be fine in the dry, which is why most people bang on about them being good, and it's usually purchase justification on account of them not having to spend £300 a corner on half-decent tyres for the huge wheels they knowingly bought a car with. But in reality, on the first cold wet rainy morning, you'll notice that the traction available when accelerating and braking is somewhat lacking.

Just had a look at what's available in that size... Absolutely sod all half-decent. Are you sure it's the right OEM size?