Landsail LS588 tyres...anyone have any feedback?
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Ianhughes said:
Hi
My wife has just bought an MX5 mk 3 and it has 4 brand new landsail tyres fitted (17inch)
I had a drive the other day, as you do, on a dampish road but in no way wet. Everything was fine until i entered a roundabout at a very moderate speed as it was quite busy, what i experienced at the rear was a very unpleasant experience which was repeated at every roundabout I encountered. I can only try and explain that it felt as if the tyre was made of blancmange. By the time i got home i resolved to replace all 4 immediately as they inspire zero confidence in my opinion. Im not a tyre snob and note that some people like them. Im just sharing my experience and i think that the fact im very happy to remove 4 brand new tyres and spend almost £500 to replace them asap is an indicator of how poor i found them as a tyre. They might make a nice plant holder perhaps ??
There were 2 brand new Landsails on my E350D Cab when I bought it last year. I immediately replaced them as when driving it home from the dealers, it rained. My wife has just bought an MX5 mk 3 and it has 4 brand new landsail tyres fitted (17inch)
I had a drive the other day, as you do, on a dampish road but in no way wet. Everything was fine until i entered a roundabout at a very moderate speed as it was quite busy, what i experienced at the rear was a very unpleasant experience which was repeated at every roundabout I encountered. I can only try and explain that it felt as if the tyre was made of blancmange. By the time i got home i resolved to replace all 4 immediately as they inspire zero confidence in my opinion. Im not a tyre snob and note that some people like them. Im just sharing my experience and i think that the fact im very happy to remove 4 brand new tyres and spend almost £500 to replace them asap is an indicator of how poor i found them as a tyre. They might make a nice plant holder perhaps ??
My initial thought was that somehow this car had turned into a TVR Tuscan S on race slicks as the handling was shockingly bad!
So bad I stopped at a service station with the hope that I could buy something decent and have them fitted the next day. Sadly I had to wait two days with those death traps on the car.
Fortunately it didn't rain on either of those days I had to wait.
Agreed they're not great. I picked up a car at the weekend with 4 brand new Landsail LS588s on. Sadly this goes with the territory of buying lower value used cars. Just like how generic estate agents and TV programmes about buying and selling houses sagely advise everyone to paint everything magnolia or white to appeal to people with defective brains who can't visualise anything else, most goons think 4 brand new ditchfinders is better than just selling the car on its old tyres for whatever the ditchfinders would have cost less. I would much rather pay £320 less for the car and then spend £500 on decent tyres than pay £320 more for 4 x £80 Landsail LS588 brand new on the car then have to spend £500 anyway on something not rubbish, but usually they've already done that to "enhance its value" before they list it for sale.
No posts from the cheapskate tyre apologists who "drive to the conditions" when they're on £40 slidemasters?
I've had the misfortune of experiencing all sorts of budget tyres on cars I've bought and flipped and you'd have to hate yourself and/or your family to put them on your car. You get the odd budget tyre that's surprisingly ok in the wet, Tomkets spring to mind, but most are beyond awful. The wet stopping distance tests from 50mph on Tyrereviews say it all - budgets are often 2 car lengths longer to stop than a decent mid range tyre, which is the difference between "that was a bit hairy, oh well" and "SMASH" and that's just from 50mph, let alone 70mph. Do these cheap f
ks do 40mph on the motorway everytime it's damp? Do they hell.
I've had little hatchbacks end up sideways at 25mph on gentle bends, near misses sideswiping other cars on roundabouts because the back lets go at 15mph, and emergency stops where I might as well have tried braking like fred flinstone. It's genuinely alarming so many tight fisted prats are driving on the roads on rubber like this to save themselves a few quid.
When stuff like Falkens, Kumhos, Uniroyals, and Vredesteins are very decent for much less than a Michelin etc there is just no excuse.
I've had the misfortune of experiencing all sorts of budget tyres on cars I've bought and flipped and you'd have to hate yourself and/or your family to put them on your car. You get the odd budget tyre that's surprisingly ok in the wet, Tomkets spring to mind, but most are beyond awful. The wet stopping distance tests from 50mph on Tyrereviews say it all - budgets are often 2 car lengths longer to stop than a decent mid range tyre, which is the difference between "that was a bit hairy, oh well" and "SMASH" and that's just from 50mph, let alone 70mph. Do these cheap f
ks do 40mph on the motorway everytime it's damp? Do they hell.I've had little hatchbacks end up sideways at 25mph on gentle bends, near misses sideswiping other cars on roundabouts because the back lets go at 15mph, and emergency stops where I might as well have tried braking like fred flinstone. It's genuinely alarming so many tight fisted prats are driving on the roads on rubber like this to save themselves a few quid.
When stuff like Falkens, Kumhos, Uniroyals, and Vredesteins are very decent for much less than a Michelin etc there is just no excuse.
GeniusOfLove said:
No posts from the cheapskate tyre apologists who "drive to the conditions" when they're on £40 slidemasters?
I've had the misfortune of experiencing all sorts of budget tyres on cars I've bought and flipped and you'd have to hate yourself and/or your family to put them on your car. You get the odd budget tyre that's surprisingly ok in the wet, Tomkets spring to mind, but most are beyond awful. The wet stopping distance tests from 50mph on Tyrereviews say it all - budgets are often 2 car lengths longer to stop than a decent mid range tyre, which is the difference between "that was a bit hairy, oh well" and "SMASH" and that's just from 50mph, let alone 70mph. Do these cheap fks do 40mph on the motorway everytime it's damp? Do they hell.
I've had little hatchbacks end up sideways at 25mph on gentle bends, near misses sideswiping other cars on roundabouts because the back lets go at 15mph, and emergency stops where I might as well have tried braking like fred flinstone. It's genuinely alarming so many tight fisted prats are driving on the roads on rubber like this to save themselves a few quid.
When stuff like Falkens, Kumhos, Uniroyals, and Vredesteins are very decent for much less than a Michelin etc there is just no excuse.
This... Whenever I've bought a 'new to me car' and have done my usual of replacing all the brakes all round, but still deciding on what to do with the wheels; I've always fitted Nexen/Vredestein/Falken & Uniroyal tyres until I've made my mind up... All great tyres and not expensive at all and very easy to buy...I've had the misfortune of experiencing all sorts of budget tyres on cars I've bought and flipped and you'd have to hate yourself and/or your family to put them on your car. You get the odd budget tyre that's surprisingly ok in the wet, Tomkets spring to mind, but most are beyond awful. The wet stopping distance tests from 50mph on Tyrereviews say it all - budgets are often 2 car lengths longer to stop than a decent mid range tyre, which is the difference between "that was a bit hairy, oh well" and "SMASH" and that's just from 50mph, let alone 70mph. Do these cheap f
ks do 40mph on the motorway everytime it's damp? Do they hell.I've had little hatchbacks end up sideways at 25mph on gentle bends, near misses sideswiping other cars on roundabouts because the back lets go at 15mph, and emergency stops where I might as well have tried braking like fred flinstone. It's genuinely alarming so many tight fisted prats are driving on the roads on rubber like this to save themselves a few quid.
When stuff like Falkens, Kumhos, Uniroyals, and Vredesteins are very decent for much less than a Michelin etc there is just no excuse.
So god knows why anyone would run such cheap, s
tty tyres is beyond me...This is like an AA meeting...my name's Dave and my car has 4x Landsail LS588 UHP 245/45 R19 102Y XLs.
Don't judge.
This is on a 2017 ford galaxy. Done many thousands of miles on them so far, in all weathers, towing a caravan on occasion including an epic jaunt down to France and back oop north.
Their performance is no better or worse than the Bridgestones that came before.
They really aren't that bad, in my experience.
Don't judge.
This is on a 2017 ford galaxy. Done many thousands of miles on them so far, in all weathers, towing a caravan on occasion including an epic jaunt down to France and back oop north.
Their performance is no better or worse than the Bridgestones that came before.
They really aren't that bad, in my experience.
I've got Landsails on my car. They're fine for day to day trundling round like 95% of cars do 99% of the time. They're far from the best tyre on earth but they'll do for most people.
If you value amazing tyres at £300 per corner then knock yourself out but don't go having a moan that someone's put cheap tyres, especially if they're on a cheap car.
If you value amazing tyres at £300 per corner then knock yourself out but don't go having a moan that someone's put cheap tyres, especially if they're on a cheap car.
From 80kmph / 50mph.
Please keep a nice long distance from the cars ahead in traffic. Like maybe quarter of a mile?
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/Are-Budget-Tyr...
Cheap tyres on a cheap car? I don't scale how much I value my safety and that of my passengers up and down based on how much I paid for the car, but each to their own. There is also a very sensible middle ground between £50 ditchfinders and £300 Michellin Pilot Sport 4S tyres.
Please keep a nice long distance from the cars ahead in traffic. Like maybe quarter of a mile?
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/Are-Budget-Tyr...
Cheap tyres on a cheap car? I don't scale how much I value my safety and that of my passengers up and down based on how much I paid for the car, but each to their own. There is also a very sensible middle ground between £50 ditchfinders and £300 Michellin Pilot Sport 4S tyres.
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Friday 12th May 13:37
RazerSauber said:
I've got Landsails on my car. They're fine for day to day trundling round like 95% of cars do 99% of the time. They're far from the best tyre on earth but they'll do for most people.
If you value amazing tyres at £300 per corner then knock yourself out but don't go having a moan that someone's put cheap tyres, especially if they're on a cheap car.
It's got naff all to do with the car whether it's cheap or not..If you value amazing tyres at £300 per corner then knock yourself out but don't go having a moan that someone's put cheap tyres, especially if they're on a cheap car.
It's all to do with the tyres doing a good job, like brakes; to stop you from mating with inert objects at high speeds...
Fine; plenty of folk cheap out on both, that's their choice. Doesn't make it right and nor should it be encouraged IMO
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te tyres, like ste brakes, shouldn't be sold full stop; but they are, so it can't be stoppedYou don't have to fit £300 a corner tyres either; but another £20 or so on top of the s
tty ditchfinder tyres will get you a much better tyre...By that logic you shouldn't be allowed to buy a old cheap car either.
The stopping distance of a 1990's Nissan Micra on Michelins will be worse than a 2023 golf on Linglongs....
I've only a few times had "proper" budgets on my cars, but they've been fine with them. Yes more expensive tyres are better. But newer, less worn out cars are also better. I don't know why this insane rage about Tyres specifically.
The stopping distance of a 1990's Nissan Micra on Michelins will be worse than a 2023 golf on Linglongs....
I've only a few times had "proper" budgets on my cars, but they've been fine with them. Yes more expensive tyres are better. But newer, less worn out cars are also better. I don't know why this insane rage about Tyres specifically.
SuperPav said:
By that logic you shouldn't be allowed to buy a old cheap car either.
The stopping distance of a 1990's Nissan Micra on Michelins will be worse than a 2023 golf on Linglongs....
I’d love to see some actual evidence of this. The stopping distance of a 1990's Nissan Micra on Michelins will be worse than a 2023 golf on Linglongs....
Makes me laugh. OP has a 2.5 tonne SUV on 22” wheels but is too tight to put decent tyres on it. I suppose the Jones over the road don’t look at the tyres.
I’ve had personal experiences with Landsails as I was in desperate need of two front tyres urgently and that was all the tyre fitter near me had in stock in the right size. Got some bulls
t about how they were owned by Michelin or something along those lines. They are downright fking dangerous in the wet. My 150bhp diesel Saab would wheelspin in 6th if it was raining. Thank fk I didn’t have to do any emergency stops. I literally took them off and binned them with in two weeks. A brand new pair of tyres. That’s how st they are. All this drive to the conditions bulls
t is totally irrelevant if you suddenly need to do an emergency stop or swerve to avoid something at speed on a wet road. These tyres should be illegal, they are not fit for purpose. Whilst not wanting to inflame sensibilities but a few of these later comments are quite frankly quite scary. Car value should play no part in this at all, how does it equate that a cheap car, that is incidentally capable of the same speeds as a brand new one even relevant? Its a total clown shoes argument.
The safety of yourself your family and every other road user should be the determining factor, and if that costs £300 a corner then so be it, are these people seriosly suggesting that this isnt worth £1200. If your mindset is such that you are more than prepared to put everything at risk to save a few quid, then I would suggest you park your car up and take the bus and keep death off the roads.
The safety of yourself your family and every other road user should be the determining factor, and if that costs £300 a corner then so be it, are these people seriosly suggesting that this isnt worth £1200. If your mindset is such that you are more than prepared to put everything at risk to save a few quid, then I would suggest you park your car up and take the bus and keep death off the roads.
RazerSauber said:
I've got Landsails on my car. They're fine for day to day trundling round like 95% of cars do 99% of the time. They're far from the best tyre on earth but they'll do for most people.
I just hope you never need to do an emergency manoeuvre/stop in the wet.RazerSauber said:
If you value amazing tyres at £300 per corner then knock yourself out but don't go having a moan that someone's put cheap tyres, especially if they're on a cheap car.
There is no need to go to £300/tyre, just double up or less will get you a 100% (or more) better & safer tyre.Its not snobbery to want something decent in contact with the road.
For many years i've bought well regarded tyres such as Vredestein/Uniroyal/Yokohama/Falken etc, will have Goodyears etc if there's a bargain to be had and will look harder for Goodyears because they still have a good 8mm new tread on the Efficient Grip where some other makers are down to 7mm new.
If i've driven something that's frightening in the wet, its invariably on some cheap rubber, i've deliberately experimented in recent years with cheaper rubber to see if things are still the same, they are, and yes several times i've removed almost new tyres and replaced with something much better after research.
Won't waste any more money on cheap tyres.
For many years i've bought well regarded tyres such as Vredestein/Uniroyal/Yokohama/Falken etc, will have Goodyears etc if there's a bargain to be had and will look harder for Goodyears because they still have a good 8mm new tread on the Efficient Grip where some other makers are down to 7mm new.
If i've driven something that's frightening in the wet, its invariably on some cheap rubber, i've deliberately experimented in recent years with cheaper rubber to see if things are still the same, they are, and yes several times i've removed almost new tyres and replaced with something much better after research.
Won't waste any more money on cheap tyres.
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