Any tyre fitters here?
Discussion
Hi,
I have a camper van, 4 tonnes max total weight, front axle 2.0T max and rear axle 2.5T max, Fiat Ducati Maxi.
It is currently fitted with Vanco Camper tyres 225/75 16 which are CP rated.
They give an awful ride. So firm.
I think this is due to the stiff sidewall needed to qualify as a CP tyre.
The van is used everyday and doesn’t stand around so I want to move to C tyres for a softer, more comfortable ride.
If you’re a tyre fitter, in your experience which van tyre in 225 75 16 fitment will have the softest sidewall and hence the most comfortable ride?
I have a camper van, 4 tonnes max total weight, front axle 2.0T max and rear axle 2.5T max, Fiat Ducati Maxi.
It is currently fitted with Vanco Camper tyres 225/75 16 which are CP rated.
They give an awful ride. So firm.
I think this is due to the stiff sidewall needed to qualify as a CP tyre.
The van is used everyday and doesn’t stand around so I want to move to C tyres for a softer, more comfortable ride.
If you’re a tyre fitter, in your experience which van tyre in 225 75 16 fitment will have the softest sidewall and hence the most comfortable ride?
I had this issue a while back.
In theory you should only fit what is on the tyre pressure data plate on the vehicle as I think the insurance company might get twitchy if you ever needed to claim and had the wrong type fitted.
Now, I have never driven on a CP rated tyre but all I can say is a 109 index C is just about bearable.
On my plate, it shows I could also fit 104 rated tyre which will get a slightly softer ride but probably at the expense of handling, but also has the disadvantage of there being only around 3-4 available in my size.
Your ultimate guide to what you could fit is the axle rating plate which again should be on a label on the camper somewhere, and then look at a tyre index chart.
Also, I think that they are also rated taking into account the moving mass eg, cornering , braking etc
Eta: I also see you have found the axle rating, and in which case, I believe all four should be rated at what the rear axle requires.
I’m sure someone more knowledgable will say it’s all wrong but that’s what I have gone by.
In theory you should only fit what is on the tyre pressure data plate on the vehicle as I think the insurance company might get twitchy if you ever needed to claim and had the wrong type fitted.
Now, I have never driven on a CP rated tyre but all I can say is a 109 index C is just about bearable.
On my plate, it shows I could also fit 104 rated tyre which will get a slightly softer ride but probably at the expense of handling, but also has the disadvantage of there being only around 3-4 available in my size.
Your ultimate guide to what you could fit is the axle rating plate which again should be on a label on the camper somewhere, and then look at a tyre index chart.
Also, I think that they are also rated taking into account the moving mass eg, cornering , braking etc
Eta: I also see you have found the axle rating, and in which case, I believe all four should be rated at what the rear axle requires.
I’m sure someone more knowledgable will say it’s all wrong but that’s what I have gone by.
Edited by 119 on Tuesday 30th April 19:35
A900ss said:
My van is old enough for CP not to be invented when it was registered so I need to have C tyres.
It currently has 116 CP at only 55psi front and 65psi rear.
Rear suspension is fine but the front crashes and bangs all over the place. Just need to find a way to soften it down.
fIt currently has 116 CP at only 55psi front and 65psi rear.
Rear suspension is fine but the front crashes and bangs all over the place. Just need to find a way to soften it down.
king hell 116 must be like driving with hard rubber fitted !For 2.5T yeah the Michelin should be much better.
Trouble is after a few his and miles you’ll find them hard as well as you get used to them.
Just found this which gives a bit more info.
https://www.justkampersinsurance.com/2022/10/10/gu...
119 said:
fking hell 116 must be like driving with hard rubber fitted !
For 2.5T yeah the Michelin should be much better.
Trouble is after a few his and miles you’ll find them hard as well as you get used to them.
Just found this which gives a bit more info.
https://www.justkampersinsurance.com/2022/10/10/gu...
116 is the lowest I can go. Most vans my weight have 121’sking hell 116 must be like driving with hard rubber fitted !For 2.5T yeah the Michelin should be much better.
Trouble is after a few his and miles you’ll find them hard as well as you get used to them.
Just found this which gives a bit more info.
https://www.justkampersinsurance.com/2022/10/10/gu...
Scrump said:
Michelin Agilis Cross Climates (not the camper van version) give a much better ride than the campervan tyres which were fitted previously. 3.5t van with 225/65 x 16.
(Not a tyre fitter)
I’ve had Agilis cross climates before on a previous van but I had nothing else to compare to on that van as I never changed tyres. (Not a tyre fitter)
Have you changed from CP tyres to Agilis Cross Climate and got a better ride? If so, that’s really useful info.
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