Paint Protection Film

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Nano2nd

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3,426 posts

256 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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I'm taking delivery of my new motor soon and am considering PPF as I do 20k miles a year (lot of m'way) in all weather so it takes its toll on the paint.
On my 997 i didn't bother(just sealer and wax) and had to have the front end repainted to remove the chips (i also think the previous owner did this too)... this time i'm thinking PPF, I've had a quote from paintshield in Peterborough, the product does look good but is pretty expensive, I've overstretched a bit to buy the car, the thought of another big spend is not sitting well LOL

So does anyone have any recommendations for similar products and fitters (pref in the Leicester area). i saw another recommendation for 3m Scotchguard which looks okay, but ventureshield didn't get such good reviews - any thoughts or experience on these products?

_Leg_

2,798 posts

211 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Xpel ultimate film from Paintshield.

Wouldn't touch anything else. Worth every penny.

Had my new Porsche 981S done from new (November). Protects against paint chips and self heals scratches and swirls. Amazing stuff. Make sure you have the paintwork fully prepped first too. No point sealing scratches and swirls in. I had a 2 day paint detail/correction done first.

Wish I could travel back in time and have my other cars done tbh.

spareparts

6,777 posts

227 months

Nano2nd

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256 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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_Leg_ said:
Xpel ultimate film from Paintshield.

Wouldn't touch anything else. Worth every penny.

Had my new Porsche 981S done from new (November). Protects against paint chips and self heals scratches and swirls. Amazing stuff. Make sure you have the paintwork fully prepped first too. No point sealing scratches and swirls in. I had a 2 day paint detail/correction done first.

Wish I could travel back in time and have my other cars done tbh.
like i said it does look a good product but its eye wateringly expensive, they quoted me £700 just for the front bumper and headlights. as i mentioned i push my budget so much on this car i can't justify that kind of additional expense wink

Nano2nd

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256 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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spareparts said:
yeah saw that thread, sounds like the 3M Scotchguard might work for me, okay its not as good as the XPEL stuff but i image its gonna be at a much more favorable price point

_Leg_

2,798 posts

211 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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Nano2nd said:
like i said it does look a good product but its eye wateringly expensive, they quoted me £700 just for the front bumper and headlights. as i mentioned i push my budget so much on this car i can't justify that kind of additional expense wink
Can't argue with that. It is expensive. I've been claying my e92m3 today though and the front bumper reminded me why I had the porker done with the film. Grrr.

Nano2nd

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Thursday 14th February 2013
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_Leg_ said:
Can't argue with that. It is expensive. I've been claying my e92m3 today though and the front bumper reminded me why I had the porker done with the film. Grrr.
as a comparison Venture Shield fitted to the front bumper and lights is closer to £250 and a "bra" so 1/3 of the bonnet is coming in at £600. i do believe in you get what you pay for, but i'm also a fan of the 80/20 rule wink Venture sheild is less that 50% of the cost, is it going to provide 50% less protection?

_Leg_

2,798 posts

211 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Nano2nd said:
as a comparison Venture Shield fitted to the front bumper and lights is closer to £250 and a "bra" so 1/3 of the bonnet is coming in at £600. i do believe in you get what you pay for, but i'm also a fan of the 80/20 rule wink Venture sheild is less that 50% of the cost, is it going to provide 50% less protection?
That's probably answered better by the link provided above. I have no experience of other films myself. Its not all about chip protection though. Yellowing, peeling, fit quality etc are all important things to consider too.

I can't comment on any other films. That I'm very happy with Paintshield and xpel ultimate is all I can offer.

spareparts

6,777 posts

227 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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Nano2nd said:
as a comparison Venture Shield fitted to the front bumper and lights is closer to £250 and a "bra" so 1/3 of the bonnet is coming in at £600. i do believe in you get what you pay for, but i'm also a fan of the 80/20 rule wink Venture sheild is less that 50% of the cost, is it going to provide 50% less protection?
The day a single stone goes through Ventureshield that Xpel would have prevented, and your loss is 100%.

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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I've also been looking at Xpel with that Peterborough company. It's the best stuff so it seems.
I just can't justify £800+vat on a front kit and certainly not £3k on a complete body job! eek

I'm going to for a 3M Scotchguard DIY kit £180 and it's got a good review on that link above, even though the op wants to make sweet love to Xpel all night!

£180 V's £960?

You do the math(s). smile


http://www.paint-protection-film.co.uk/paint_prote...

PPPPPP

1,140 posts

231 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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spareparts said:
The day a single stone goes through Ventureshield that Xpel would have prevented, and your loss is 100%.
So at up to what speed does a stone have to travel for Xpel to safely repel, and Ventureshield. wink

Any evidence?

IMO all ppf's (condoms)are of good quality & helpful but they do affect the enjoyment of looking at shiny naked polished metal.

The trade off always is the cost of repainting the front & sills (and typically it is only the front & sills that are affected) may be less than the film cost.

Nano2nd

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256 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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GTIR said:
I've also been looking at Xpel with that Peterborough company. It's the best stuff so it seems.
I just can't justify £800+vat on a front kit and certainly not £3k on a complete body job! eek

I'm going to for a 3M Scotchguard DIY kit £180 and it's got a good review on that link above, even though the op wants to make sweet love to Xpel all night!

£180 V's £960?

You do the math(s). smile


http://www.paint-protection-film.co.uk/paint_prote...
was the £800 for the full front upto the windscreen, i was quoted considerably more than that... I've had a quote today for venture shield for about a £1050, that's bumper, wings, bonnet, A pillars, mirrors, lights, fogs and sills

Nano2nd

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256 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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PPPPPP said:
So at up to what speed does a stone have to travel for Xpel to safely repel, and Ventureshield. wink

Any evidence?
i wondered that

Xtremescoobys

123 posts

134 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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How about a Bra for the winter and enjoy polishing it. You should have £600 change left.

swisstoni

16,985 posts

279 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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GTIR said:
I've also been looking at Xpel with that Peterborough company. It's the best stuff so it seems.
I just can't justify £800+vat on a front kit and certainly not £3k on a complete body job! eek

I'm going to for a 3M Scotchguard DIY kit £180 and it's got a good review on that link above, even though the op wants to make sweet love to Xpel all night!

£180 V's £960?

You do the math(s). smile


http://www.paint-protection-film.co.uk/paint_prote...
Did you end up going for this? Would you care to comment on how easy/hard it was to do and whether you were happy with it?

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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Guam said:
Just so everyone, knows we all check pricing variations at extreme levels out with each other regularly, Armourfend ourselves and Venture are in regular communication to ascertain each others pricing levels. Whilst there is no co-operation in setting prices we do talk to each other regularly.

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Does sound like price fixing. wink

Nano2nd

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Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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Guam said:
Ok Let me set this straight, today I spoke to Ventureshield about another pricing rumour, There is very little difference between Paintshield and Venture general pricing levels.

On a like for like basis, while there is a difference on the XPEl pricing, typically this is nominal if compared to Ultra, the differences tend to come in on the amount of coverage.

If anyone has any doubt they should check with 3M directly, they will get somewhat of a surprise compared to the stuff being cited on threads like this!

Just so everyone, knows we all check pricing variations at extreme levels out with each other regularly, Armourfend ourselves and Venture are in regular communication to ascertain each others pricing levels. Whilst there is no co-operation in setting prices we do talk to each other regularly.

If a differential is that extreme <in any direction> something is missing from the estimate you are recieving.
i can assume you this isn't a rumor, i spoke to Paintshield for the quote on XPEL - i have the emails to prove the costs i mentioned above.

I also spoke to Body Guard UK - an approved Ventureshield fitter, again they quoted me as above...

having had Body Guard fit my ventureshield 3 weeks ago - full frontal, A posts, mirrors, sills and some rear sections for behind the wheels for £1000 versus the cost of Paintshield's XPEL half front section at £840 i'm very happy with the results... we may have to disagree, but a saving of around £1000 does not seem "very little difference between Paintshield and Venture general pricing levels"


Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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Guam said:
..If I could have bet anyone would have come up with a comment like, that my money would have been on you Mermaid smile I will award myself a beer smile
beer

Nano2nd

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3,426 posts

256 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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that's correct £1620 for the full front inc VAT - whereas the venture was £895 inc VAT for the same thing..

the sills kit was £150 fitted inc vat - based on the above variance, i assume that the XPEL would of been £150-£300 for these? then the additional bits i got for free behind the rear wheels...

my understanding the offer of transport was an extra charge not included in the above prices?

Freakuk

3,143 posts

151 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Raising this one from the ashes.

I've recently purchased a Cayman GTS and I'm specifically interested in wheel arch protection as I've can already see a few nicks in the paint after 400 miles of ownership.

Who sells kits down to each area and specifically for a Cayman (GTS).