PU vs Duraflex Fiberglass
Discussion
Bobby Shaftoe said:
To be brutally honest it won't matter a jot what your body kits are made of, primary importance are design and marketing.
Fibreglass is a generic term and means bugger all, fibreglass can be made as flexible or rigid as you like, ditto the finish can be as good or bad as you want depending on how much you want to spend. For instance there is a fibreglass cloth that looks a hell of a lot like carbon fibre, your average customer wouldn't be able to tell by looking at it. There are also polyester based cloths that you could wail on with a sledgehammer and would bounce back into shape.
I suspect you are looking at this arsee about tit. You need to establish your selling pricepoint and work backwards to see what material & manufacturing process will give you and your retailers an acceptable margin.
Do you intend to set up manufacture yourself or sub it out? If the former i'd avoid PU as it is nasty s
t, and there are plenty of companies who specialise in low volume/prototype PU injection moulding, i suspect however the costs are much much higher than ANY open mould fibre reinforced polymer system, including carbon fibre. FYI Carbon fibre is approx 10-15x the cost of a basic chopped strand fibreglass with billy basic polyester resin.
Yep, marketing is KEY but the material does matter enough for me to care. Fibreglass is a generic term and means bugger all, fibreglass can be made as flexible or rigid as you like, ditto the finish can be as good or bad as you want depending on how much you want to spend. For instance there is a fibreglass cloth that looks a hell of a lot like carbon fibre, your average customer wouldn't be able to tell by looking at it. There are also polyester based cloths that you could wail on with a sledgehammer and would bounce back into shape.
I suspect you are looking at this arsee about tit. You need to establish your selling pricepoint and work backwards to see what material & manufacturing process will give you and your retailers an acceptable margin.
Do you intend to set up manufacture yourself or sub it out? If the former i'd avoid PU as it is nasty s
t, and there are plenty of companies who specialise in low volume/prototype PU injection moulding, i suspect however the costs are much much higher than ANY open mould fibre reinforced polymer system, including carbon fibre. FYI Carbon fibre is approx 10-15x the cost of a basic chopped strand fibreglass with billy basic polyester resin. Edited by Bobby Shaftoe on Thursday 2nd January 18:44
Why would you say PU is nasty s
t? I know CF is a lot more expensive. I'm considering CFRP/CF and PU. CB (carbon fibre)
CBRP (carbon fibre reinforced plastic)
Bobby Shaftoe said:
To be brutally honest it won't matter a jot what your body kits are made of, primary importance are design and marketing.
Fibreglass is a generic term and means bugger all, fibreglass can be made as flexible or rigid as you like, ditto the finish can be as good or bad as you want depending on how much you want to spend. For instance there is a fibreglass cloth that looks a hell of a lot like carbon fibre, your average customer wouldn't be able to tell by looking at it. There are also polyester based cloths that you could wail on with a sledgehammer and would bounce back into shape.
I suspect you are looking at this arsee about tit. You need to establish your selling pricepoint and work backwards to see what material & manufacturing process will give you and your retailers an acceptable margin.
Do you intend to set up manufacture yourself or sub it out? If the former i'd avoid PU as it is nasty st, and there are plenty of companies who specialise in low volume/prototype PU injection moulding, i suspect however the costs are much much higher than ANY open mould fibre reinforced polymer system, including carbon fibre. FYI Carbon fibre is approx 10-15x the cost of a basic chopped strand fibreglass with billy basic polyester resin.
Yep, marketing is KEY but the material does matter enough for me to care. Fibreglass is a generic term and means bugger all, fibreglass can be made as flexible or rigid as you like, ditto the finish can be as good or bad as you want depending on how much you want to spend. For instance there is a fibreglass cloth that looks a hell of a lot like carbon fibre, your average customer wouldn't be able to tell by looking at it. There are also polyester based cloths that you could wail on with a sledgehammer and would bounce back into shape.
I suspect you are looking at this arsee about tit. You need to establish your selling pricepoint and work backwards to see what material & manufacturing process will give you and your retailers an acceptable margin.
Do you intend to set up manufacture yourself or sub it out? If the former i'd avoid PU as it is nasty s
t, and there are plenty of companies who specialise in low volume/prototype PU injection moulding, i suspect however the costs are much much higher than ANY open mould fibre reinforced polymer system, including carbon fibre. FYI Carbon fibre is approx 10-15x the cost of a basic chopped strand fibreglass with billy basic polyester resin. Edited by Bobby Shaftoe on Thursday 2nd January 18:44
Why would you say PU is nasty s
t? I know CF is a lot more expensive. I'm considering CFRP/CF and PU. CB (carbon fibre)
CBRP (carbon fibre reinforced plastic)
Edited by kingPanther on Friday 3rd January 05:18
Bobby Shaftoe said:
To be brutally honest it won't matter a jot what your body kits are made of, primary importance are design and marketing.
Fibreglass is a generic term and means bugger all, fibreglass can be made as flexible or rigid as you like, ditto the finish can be as good or bad as you want depending on how much you want to spend. For instance there is a fibreglass cloth that looks a hell of a lot like carbon fibre, your average customer wouldn't be able to tell by looking at it. There are also polyester based cloths that you could wail on with a sledgehammer and would bounce back into shape.
I suspect you are looking at this arsee about tit. You need to establish your selling pricepoint and work backwards to see what material & manufacturing process will give you and your retailers an acceptable margin.
Do you intend to set up manufacture yourself or sub it out? If the former i'd avoid PU as it is nasty st, and there are plenty of companies who specialise in low volume/prototype PU injection moulding, i suspect however the costs are much much higher than ANY open mould fibre reinforced polymer system, including carbon fibre. FYI Carbon fibre is approx 10-15x the cost of a basic chopped strand fibreglass with billy basic polyester resin.
Yep, marketing is KEY but the material does matter enough for me to care. Fibreglass is a generic term and means bugger all, fibreglass can be made as flexible or rigid as you like, ditto the finish can be as good or bad as you want depending on how much you want to spend. For instance there is a fibreglass cloth that looks a hell of a lot like carbon fibre, your average customer wouldn't be able to tell by looking at it. There are also polyester based cloths that you could wail on with a sledgehammer and would bounce back into shape.
I suspect you are looking at this arsee about tit. You need to establish your selling pricepoint and work backwards to see what material & manufacturing process will give you and your retailers an acceptable margin.
Do you intend to set up manufacture yourself or sub it out? If the former i'd avoid PU as it is nasty s
t, and there are plenty of companies who specialise in low volume/prototype PU injection moulding, i suspect however the costs are much much higher than ANY open mould fibre reinforced polymer system, including carbon fibre. FYI Carbon fibre is approx 10-15x the cost of a basic chopped strand fibreglass with billy basic polyester resin. Edited by Bobby Shaftoe on Thursday 2nd January 18:44
Why would you say PU is nasty s
t? I know CF is a lot more expensive. I'm considering CFRP/CF and PU. CB (carbon fibre)
CBRP (carbon fibre reinforced plastic)
Edited by kingPanther on Friday 3rd January 05:19
Bobby Shaftoe said:
Because the isocyanate component isn't particularly pleasant to work with.
Why do you differentiate Carbon fibre and carbon fibre reinforced plastic, what is the difference?
Why do you say isocyanate isn't pleasant to work with, could you please elaborate? Why do you differentiate Carbon fibre and carbon fibre reinforced plastic, what is the difference?
I thought CFRP is mixed/reinforced with plastic, I thought it made it slightly more flexible and repairable?
TallPaul said:
No offence meant, but that question suggests you may be better looking at other business plans, maybe this isn't for you...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isocyanate#HazardsPersonally I thought it would be down to the manufacturer to create a safe environment to manufacture my designs. So I don't know why me being aware of the above is relevant. I think that I've asked the relevant question (hence the thread), why would I need to know the above, unless it effects cost?
Edited by kingPanther on Sunday 5th January 15:32
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