Help me step up my detailing game

Help me step up my detailing game

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Nuttah

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566 posts

172 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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I have been using T cut and Optimum No Rinse Wash and Wax for the longest time now, Im still a noob at detailing and would like to try some better products, The car is an old fiesta xr2 flat black, only goes out in the dry and doesn't do many miles hence using the water less product just to keep it clean.

It scrubs up pretty well, but has quite a few swirls and scratches, it looks great when i polish it but the shine doesn't last. Im just after some recommendations of some better products to try out for a novice doing everything by hand. Cheers

MJ85

1,849 posts

174 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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On the simplest of levels, you need to wax the paint after polishing to retain the finish. Polishing alone does not keep the paint nice for long.

daemon

35,814 posts

197 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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MJ85 said:
On the simplest of levels, you need to wax the paint after polishing to retain the finish. Polishing alone does not keep the paint nice for long.
Especially if you're "polishing" it with T cut each time.

Nuttah

Original Poster:

566 posts

172 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Is the optimum no rinse adequate for that or do i need a proper wax?

daemon

35,814 posts

197 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Nuttah said:
Is the optimum no rinse adequate for that or do i need a proper wax?
You have an awful lot to learn if you think a T cut and a no rinse wash is "detailing".

Get yourself over to detailing world and have a read...

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/

MDMA .

8,894 posts

101 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Get some decent gear for a start. You using a brillo pad with the T Cut ? Probably why its full of swirles. Next thread will be learn how to paint. Cant be much left on it if cleaning with T Cut.
As said above, detailing world and have a good read. Or have a ride out to a local place that does it and ask if you're ok watching.

Vaud

50,456 posts

155 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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I'm no detailer but I don't think t-cut has a real place in detailing... More a bodge/prep for a quick sale of a battered old car.

Slow

6,973 posts

137 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Buy a machine polisher, I got one for £150 new and it will sort all the swirls and apply the polish.

Turned a pink defender red again. Made a old golf have a sparkle to it again.

Slow

6,973 posts

137 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Buy a machine polisher, I got one for £150 new and it will sort all the swirls and apply the polish.

Turned a pink defender red again. Made a old golf have a sparkle to it again.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

228 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Run away, run away before it's too late, before you start worrying about a smeared silencer.

hman

7,487 posts

194 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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lots of blue masking tape, and clay bars....

seriously just use auto glym / meguiars stuff, microfibre cloths, wash mitts instead of sponges and buckets with with grit guards.

your black car will need a machine polish to get all the swirls out - but auto glym super resin polish will make it look great with very little effort.


Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

KungFuPanda

4,332 posts

170 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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You don't need to spend a lot, it's all in the prep. Wash with a decent lambs mitt. Clay, polish, wax.

Nuttah

Original Poster:

566 posts

172 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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hman said:
lots of blue masking tape, and clay bars....

seriously just use auto glym / meguiars stuff, microfibre cloths, wash mitts instead of sponges and buckets with with grit guards.

your black car will need a machine polish to get all the swirls out - but auto glym super resin polish will make it look great with very little effort.
Thanks a few people have mentioned super resin polish, i think i will give that a go, can you recommend a wax to use afterwards?

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

154 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Stick feet up,have coffee,don't bother.Far better things to do with your life.

Winky151

1,267 posts

141 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Nuttah said:
hman said:
lots of blue masking tape, and clay bars....

seriously just use auto glym / meguiars stuff, microfibre cloths, wash mitts instead of sponges and buckets with with grit guards.

your black car will need a machine polish to get all the swirls out - but auto glym super resin polish will make it look great with very little effort.
Thanks a few people have mentioned super resin polish, i think i will give that a go, can you recommend a wax to use afterwards?
If you want to give AG a go then the Clay detailing kit, super resin polish, extra gloss protection to seal finished off with the HD wax.

Speed addicted

5,574 posts

227 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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I'm at the fairly basic end of the car washing spectrum.
I've found that a good wash with autoglym car shampoo, followed with a clay bar (if needed), then super resin polish, then a coating of autoglym high definition wax is very effective. Lasts about 6 months with regular washing.

Wash mits rather than sponges trap less grit so I've used them for years.

You can go as far as you like with detailing but this combination gets the car to a state I'm happy with.

hman

7,487 posts

194 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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Winky151 said:
Nuttah said:
hman said:
lots of blue masking tape, and clay bars....

seriously just use auto glym / meguiars stuff, microfibre cloths, wash mitts instead of sponges and buckets with with grit guards.

your black car will need a machine polish to get all the swirls out - but auto glym super resin polish will make it look great with very little effort.
Thanks a few people have mentioned super resin polish, i think i will give that a go, can you recommend a wax to use afterwards?
If you want to give AG a go then the Clay detailing kit, super resin polish, extra gloss protection to seal finished off with the HD wax.
This but in all honesty I have given up on clay bars as I just cant be arsed.

The difference after SRP and a nice sealant (I use meguiars carnuba wax but use whatever you like as long as its a sealant) was not big enough to warrant the time.

Of course if you have the time then you should lavish the car with a clay bar.

Importantly, rinse your car thoroughly before washing - get as much dirt off as poss with JUST HOSE PRESSURE and learn the two bucket wash principle:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVAxphcgKnY

and buy 3 wash mits, one for the upper sides (down to mid door) 1 for mid door to lower outer sill height and one for wheels/door shuts.

Learn how to "sheet" water onto the panels using a hose with an open end- this way gravity does most of the drying, and spray detailing spray onto each panel after rinsing before drying as this removes water marks as you dry the car.

I use a waffle drying thing called a water magnet.

The key once you have a nice shine is to keep it there by careful washing - wash one panel at a time, rinse off the wash mitt in the clean bucket then rub it on the grit guard in the soap bucket then wash the next panel. Dont be tempted to was more than one panel (I do the roof and bonnet in halves) at a time as anything you pick up on panel 1 will be transferred to panel 2 if you dont rinse, rub on grit guard etc between panels.

oh, and remove the labels from the microfibre cloths - they are very scratchy!!


Edited by hman on Tuesday 15th December 08:48