Scratch remover? T cut or others?

Scratch remover? T cut or others?

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Looking4aCar

Original Poster:

40 posts

157 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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Hi guys

I have a faint (but noticeable) scratch on the door of my C Classs and wanted to ask what the best way would be to get it removed?

Should I try T-Cut or any other scratch removers? Will that damage the car in the long run? And is this a permanent solution?

Or should I take it to a garage for a more professional repair?

Or any other recommendations?

Thanks

rainmakerraw

1,222 posts

126 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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Define 'scratch'? Is it down to primer? Bare metal? Or is just the clear coat marked with a line? How old is the car (I'm asking what kind of paint it is)? A picture speaks a thousand words and all that... It may be that you can machine polish out the worst of it so it's not worth repairing, or it might be a smart repair/paint job. Hard to say without seeing it.

Looking4aCar

Original Poster:

40 posts

157 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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rainmakerraw said:
Define 'scratch'? Is it down to primer? Bare metal? Or is just the clear coat marked with a line? How old is the car (I'm asking what kind of paint it is)? A picture speaks a thousand words and all that... It may be that you can machine polish out the worst of it so it's not worth repairing, or it might be a smart repair/paint job. Hard to say without seeing it.
Will get a picture in the morning!

There are 1 or 2 bits which are down to bare metal (very small) but most of it looks like the clear coat marked with a line

rainmakerraw

1,222 posts

126 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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Looking4aCar said:
Will get a picture in the morning!

There are 1 or 2 bits which are down to bare metal (very small) but most of it looks like the clear coat marked with a line
Smart repair imho. You can touch it in, knock it back down with a DA machine polisher and keep it waxed etc; but ultimately if you have bare metal it needs painting properly. A smart repair wouldn't cost much, certainly compared to the cost of your car. For what you've described £50 to £100 isn't unlikely, so peanuts compared to leaving it exposed to the elements. Where are you based? There'll be a good local bodyshop specialising in this stuff, else you might be lucky and have a quality ChipsAway or similar (they're all franchises so quality varies). Someone will be able to give you a hint if you post your location.

996TT02

3,308 posts

140 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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No you can't t-cut anything that deep. Needs paint. Smart repair perhaps.

Looking4aCar

Original Poster:

40 posts

157 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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rainmakerraw said:
Smart repair imho. You can touch it in, knock it back down with a DA machine polisher and keep it waxed etc; but ultimately if you have bare metal it needs painting properly. A smart repair wouldn't cost much, certainly compared to the cost of your car. For what you've described £50 to £100 isn't unlikely, so peanuts compared to leaving it exposed to the elements. Where are you based? There'll be a good local bodyshop specialising in this stuff, else you might be lucky and have a quality ChipsAway or similar (they're all franchises so quality varies). Someone will be able to give you a hint if you post your location.
Thanks I am in East London / Boarder with Essex.

Any local recommendations?

Thanks.

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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Run a fingernail across it. If you can feel a bump or trough, as above, you're best-off getting someone like ChipsAway to fill and repaint it for £50-100. You can do it for perhaps £10-30 with a bit of T-Cut and a touchup paintstick, but will struggle to match a pro job from someone who does it every day with pro materials.

jwilliamsm3

286 posts

129 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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T-cut is so 1990's!

much much better stuff on the market now, look on detailing world

paintman

7,687 posts

190 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Does the scratch seem to disappear if it's wetted? If it does then likely polishing along the line of the scratch will smooth out the damage to the clearcoat & take the eye off it.
If you try & get it flat there is a high risk you will go through the clear to the basecoat & then it's probably going to be a door respray. Dependent on the colour there are then likely to be shade issues between the door & the rest of the car - silver & pale metallics being particularly problematic & I won't get involved with doors as a result.

Squiggs

1,520 posts

155 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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£50 - £100 to paint repair a door WTF!
To call out an electrician or plumber can cost £50, and that's before he actually does something, yet some people expect that getting someone round to repair a door on your pride and joy can be done for the same price!

When you take into account, travelling time, fuel, van tools and public liability insurance, materials, wear and tear on the van and tools, national insurance, VAT and tax and the fact that a quality and lasting repair will take anything upwards of 2 hours labour, then how could you possibly expect it to cost less than £100?
When you do the maths it wouldn't be a viable business!
At £50 for the job you'd be expecting the repairer to actually run a business turning out quality jobs for a wage of less than about £6 an hour.
I'd rather be flipping burgers at McDonalds.


Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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jwilliamsm3 said:
T-cut is so 1990's!

much much better stuff on the market now, look on detailing world
For hand-polishing a heavy scratch, T-Cut still works as good as anything on the market (when used properly). It's just pure snobbery on DW because they sell it in Halfords and not some detailing boutique at twice the price. For light scratches by hand or machine, there is Autoglym SRP, etc. For deeper machine-polishing, there is Meguiars M105, etc. Horses for courses.

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Squiggs said:
£50 - £100 to paint repair a door WTF!
To call out an electrician or plumber can cost £50, and that's before he actually does something, yet some people expect that getting someone round to repair a door on your pride and joy can be done for the same price!

When you take into account, travelling time, fuel, van tools and public liability insurance, materials, wear and tear on the van and tools, national insurance, VAT and tax and the fact that a quality and lasting repair will take anything upwards of 2 hours labour, then how could you possibly expect it to cost less than £100?
When you do the maths it wouldn't be a viable business!
At £50 for the job you'd be expecting the repairer to actually run a business turning out quality jobs for a wage of less than about £6 an hour.
I'd rather be flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Scratch-repair is a commoditized, overcrowded industry. It only takes a few tools and a few days of training to become a professional. Pretty much anyone can do it to a "good enough" level. There is always someone else around the corner who will do it for a cheaper price.

Squiggs

1,520 posts

155 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Yipper said:
Scratch-repair is a commoditized, overcrowded industry. It only takes a few tools and a few days of training to become a professional. Pretty much anyone can do it to a "good enough" level. There is always someone else around the corner who will do it for a cheaper price.
A few tools and a few days training doesn't make a professional .... it makes a cowboy that charges people for bodging up damage on their cars.

My training took a month, my tools cost well over 5k and that was over eleven years ago.

If you think pretty much anyone can do it to a 'good enough level' then you're obviously not that fussed about what repairs look like or how long they last.

A true a professional can do it a standard that is practically perfect and will offer a guarantee that their repair will last. This is the type of repair most people want on their pride and joy.

True that there's always someone cheaper round the corner, but that cowboy will be using cheap products, and he'll be cutting corners on prep work so he can rush onto the next job to try and make a living.
It will be cheap because it's not a quality job and the repair probably won't last six months.
You won't be able to call him back to redo the job because he doesn't offer a guarantee.
And if he did offer a guarantee it wouldn't be worth the paper it was written on because he'll have gone out of business anyway ..... because he was charging so low he couldn't keep his business afloat and/or he had so many complaints about his work people simply stopped using him.


one eyed mick

1,189 posts

161 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Gee you learnt every thing in a month and only spent 5 k on tools ,lucky /clever boy ! I'm 70 started at 15 and am still learning ! tools ? Imust have spent 15/20 k ! and there are things I havent got

Winky151

1,267 posts

141 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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I think people are just commenting that the likes of Chipsaway quote something like £60 per panel regardless of how many dings are in it. You can't have a go at people quoting what companies advertise.

docter fox

593 posts

235 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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I tried T cut on a bumper last weekend and was surprised at how much of a difference it made! You can still see it if you look closely but you can't see it when you stand up, £5 well spent!

Squiggs

1,520 posts

155 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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one eyed mick said:
Gee you learnt every thing in a month and only spent 5 k on tools ,lucky /clever boy ! I'm 70 started at 15 and am still learning ! tools ? Imust have spent 15/20 k ! and there are things I havent got
Obviously I was talking of my initial training and my initial purchases.
Like you I find every day is a school day and regularly update to new and better tools.
My spending isn't quite as high as yours, but then you've got a few years on me wink

s p a c e m a n

10,777 posts

148 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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I noticed that they've now got a smart repair place in the car park of my tescos yesterday, so now you can get the door dings from last weeks food shop fixed whilst you do this weeks shop hehe