Tell me how to wash my car, please

Tell me how to wash my car, please

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hutchingsp

51,264 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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My advice just to confuse you even more:

Buy:

Two buckets.
A Grit Guard.
A Shmitt.
A couple of Sonus Microfiber drying towels.
A gallon of Quick Detailer such as Meguiars Last Touch.

At a minimum use a hose or pressure washer to soak the car and give it five minutes to loosen the dirt and rinse off again.

Fill one bucket with shampoo/warm water, fill the other one with warm water and put the grit guard in it.

Wash the car a panel at a time, ring the shmitt out in the rinse bucket, the grit guard will keep any large bits of crap that rinse out at the bottom of the bucket.

Once it's washed rinse off and dry by spraying liberally with the quick detailer and using the drying towel.

It sounds laborious but it doesn't take much longer than going at it with a bucket and a sponge and you will see the benefits IMHO.

As for sealants/waxes etc. if you don't want to spend a fortune you won't go far wrong with Autoglym SRP (£5 or so) topped with Collinite wax (£15). Collinite lasts for months and the QD after washing will help keep up the shine.

Fume troll

Original Poster:

4,389 posts

212 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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Thanks folks. Washed the car at the weekend and it looks lovely! I wish I'd taken some pictures before and after. Didn't get round to properly waxing it yet - but I did put on some wheel wax which did a great job.

Cheers,

Tom.

chas100

346 posts

214 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2007
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Do you have to buff the wax?

Fume troll

Original Poster:

4,389 posts

212 months

Wednesday 4th April 2007
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Yeah, just wipe it on all over, then wipe off the excess. 24 hours later I buffed it off with a clean cloth.

Cheers,

Tom.

k321

4,112 posts

218 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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right now i am in the middle of cleaning my porsche
i have cleaned and washed it and now its drying, i have bought these meguirs 3 stage deep crystal thing i have used it on my other cars and am amazed how clean the cars are . you should try it out, you first wash the car, then put this paint cleaner on it, then use the polish stage, then the carnauba wax stage and the car looks great, though it takes about 4 hours to finish.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

250 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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ali_kat said:
shout Mr Heatherington!! hehe



You called? hehe


Ok I've done a few posts on this topic, I don't claim to be anywhere near good, but i do like to take pride in my car so offer these posts I hope they are of help;

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=293672&hw=+%2Blambs+%2Bwool+%2Bmit

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=295755&hw=+%2Blambs+%2Bwool+%2Bmit

k321

4,112 posts

218 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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i am still cleaning my car and i got back ache, leg ache and headache

hutchingsp

51,264 posts

210 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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k321 said:
i am still cleaning my car and i got back ache, leg ache and headache


Heh.. welcome to my world

Decided today would be "D-Day" for the Boxster (only six months old so pretty much mint) and set to work with a pre-wash, a full two-bucket wash/rinse, a clay bar, another wash/rinse then machine polished with Menzerna polish, residue buffed, then some Victoria Wax (hand applied wax) followed by some real arm-aching buffing as I left it to haze for a bit too long.

Total time of 5 hours.

As I sit here every part of my body aches but when I look out the window it's worth it twice a year.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

250 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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5 hours?! That sounds very quick for all that! Good going!

Can I ask, why do you do a wash rinse after claying?

hutchingsp

51,264 posts

210 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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TonyHetherington said:
5 hours?! That sounds very quick for all that! Good going!

Can I ask, why do you do a wash rinse after claying?


Well the car does get a lot of TLC anyway so there really wasn't that much to do in the way of defect/swirl removal etc.

I washed it simply because after using the clay the car was covered in quick detailer mixed with clay "juice" which started to dry, so as the car is clean of dirt from the first wash, and I still have half a bucket of clean wash water left I figure for the sake of 5mins do a second wash.

It may not be strictly necessary it just didn't seem worth the hassle vs. 5 extra minutes.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

250 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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Ah I see what you mean! Like you say, it's clean so a quick rinse and dry would not take long at all.

Bravo that man thumbup

k321

4,112 posts

218 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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i cleaned my frigging black boxster then just as i had finished it, all this condesnation crap got on it .....why? my black volvo parked next to it had none of this condensation mist on the bodywork as the sun was setting, i drove the porsche back into garage and fingers crossed it will still look immaculate tomorrow, still got the back ache though

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

250 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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The black volvo had it, but you just couldn't see it as well because unless the volvo was 100% clean it wouldn't run or collect. So long as you got the boxster in quick enough, it'll look lovely! A quick run over the car with a chamois or drying cloth (better) would make absolutely sure for you (the car is immaculately clean now so this is no probs)

rs666

187 posts

216 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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Try this....

In this guide I will explain how best to care for your car during a regular wash regime.

Washing represents the most hazardous process for your cars paintwork. Using a sponge is just about the worst thing you can do to your car. Believe it or not, whilst cleaning your pride and joy you are probably inflicting the worst damage it has experienced!

We will cover the basic equipment you will need and how to get the best finish without inflicting damage to your car.

What you will need:
Wheel brush
Wheel Cleaner
Three buckets (clear plastic if possible)
Wash mitt – 2 preferably
Car shampoo
Drying Towel – 2 or 3 preferably

Preparation
Where possible try not to wash your car in strong sunlight. Early morning or late afternoon is best. This will help stop the water drying too quickly on the car and leaving water marks which require washing off again. If it is hot and drying too quickly you will need to wash and dry your car in sections.

If possible use a jetwash to prepare the car for washing. Do not get the nozzle too close to the car, and do not dry and blast any stubborn bugs or bird muck off, these will respond better to soaking. If you are washing a cabriolet do not be tempted to wash the fabric with the jetwash. If you do not have access to a jetwash, use a hose and focus on soaking the car.

Do not use a sponge
Although widely used a sponge is the worst thing you can use to clean your car. If you think of the grit that is sitting on your paintwork, then placing a flat sponge on top of it there is no where for the grit to go. It doesn’t ‘soak’ into the sponge; you just move it off the paintwork and into the water solution. But in doing this you first have to move the grit, and it is this movement that caused the swirling you see in the paintwork.

To mitigate against this you should use a Wash Mitt. Wash Mitts come in two materials, Lambswool or Microfibre. The basic principle that the pile in a wash mitt allows the grit to be moved away from the surface. The depth of the pile encourages the grit to be absorbed into the mitt rather than just moved across the surface. It is not a guaranteed to eliminate swirling, but it is the best way to wash your car.



Two bucket method
This is the most important part of keeping your car in the best possible condition.

Get two buckets of water ready. One wash, one rinse. The wash bucket is the one to put the car shampoo in. Contary to popular belief bubbles are not what your looking for. Lubracy is the key, to get this add the shampoo when the bucket is one third full, then use the hose to mix it in whilst filling the bucket. Warm water helps too.

The second bucket is plain water.



The technique is as follows:

Dip wash mitt in washing bucket.



Wash a section of the car.
Squeeze out wash mitt
Dip in rinsing bucket



Squeeze out wash mitt
Then dip wash mitt in washing bucket and repeat

Change the rinsing water at least once. In the winter, keep an eye on the water in each bucket and change as soon as it discolours and/or contaminants show.

Right then onto how to wash the car……

Wheels first
You need to get the worst of the grime away from the car first, so it’s the wheels first.

Use a wheel cleaner product. There are two types of cleaner, acidic and citrus.

Products like Autoglym Wheel Cleaner and Wonder Wheels are very acidic and should be avoided. I once had a set of alloys replaced on a new car when I knew it was because I was using Wonder Wheels the damage occurred, but the dealership didn’t know that!!!

The alternative is to use a citrus based cleaner. These are completely safe and extremely effective at removing brake dust. My recommendation is Virisol. Made by Clover Chemicals it is a trade degreaser mainly used by commercial cleaning companies. It is incredibly good value for money, 5 ltrs costing approx £8 plus delivery. I get mine from [url]www.olympiccleaning.co.uk[/url] . Be aware, Virisol strips wax, so keep it off the paintwork.

You will need a good wheel brush. It has been difficult to find one that reaches inside the wheel so I recommend the Meguiars Wheel Spoke Brush.




Agitate the brake dust/dirt then jet wash off and leave to dry.



Basic principles
You are working from ‘cleanest’ area of the car, to the dirtiest last.
Refreshing water and washing surfaces at every opportunity to avoid inflicting defects.
Be as gentle as possible, no scrubbing.
Wash in 'straight' lines, not circles.

Washing
Roof first
Side windows leave front and rear (depending on body shape, if it’s a coupe or saloon you can wash them at this point)
Bonnet
Wings and doors top three quarters only, both sides.
Change wash mitt.
Door/boot jams (if needed)
Windscreen and rear screen (if not done)
Headlights, grill and front bumper
Wings and doors bottom quarter, both sides, do not do under sills
Rear bumper
Under sills

Rinsing
You can use the Jetwash to remove most of the water, but you should finish using an open hose to sheet water over the car as this will provide the best method of removing any remaining grit/dirt.

You will need to use more water than you normally use, have you ever seen the oiliness left in the water when drying off the car? More is better here.

Drying
In the similar way to the sponge the traditional chamois is a potential source of defects. Most professional detailers have long since abandoned the chamois and moved to microfibre drying towels. The highest rated towel in the detailing community is the Sonus Der Wunder Drying Towel. One of these towel will dry a complete car with little wringing out, they are amazing.

I use three towels, one for paintwork, one for door shuts and one for engine bay (if detailed) and wheels.



Using the microfibre drying towel, pat or drag gently over the car.
Top down, follow the same sequence as the washing routine.
Then open doors and do door jams with a second towel
Then if you have previously cleaned the engine bay, wipe it down with the third towel and finish with drying the wheels.

You are done! The car is finished.

The most important thing is you’ve done it in the safest possible way and kept your car in the best condition possible.

Shopping
Megs Wheel Brush
Wheel cleaner
3 clear buckets, B&Q
Shampoo
Wash mitt
Sonus drying towel 2/3

I would recommend getting all of the above from www.cleanyourcar.co.uk

Tim Horner is the proprietor, his reputation in the detailing profession is second to none.

Care of your washing gear
Rinse wheel brushes and hang dry
Wash mitt, wash by hand and spin before hang dry
Drying towels, periodic machine wash at 30C, at a minimum run under running tap and spin before drying on radiator.

I hope this guide helps you understand how best to wash your car, please ask any questions you want

k321

4,112 posts

218 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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that is a comprehensive guide !

tony- thanks for your explanation, i cant wait to see my boxster tomorrow and still see it gleaming!
though now that is soo clean it makes me want to finish my other cars, hopefully will do one of them tomorrow.

lurker

586 posts

213 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Wow, rs, thanks for the effort.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

250 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Completely agree with everything RS has put there - it's exactly how I do mine and I find great success.

There are of course many more things you can do, but as an actual washing guide; first class.

Also, I'd recommend cleanyourcar.co.uk - I've used them a fair few times, and spot on service!

(PS: How did the Boxtser look yesterday morning?)

k321

4,112 posts

218 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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tony the boxster looks pristine! though i need to get the wheels cleaner!

i did the same treatment to my saab today, but for some reason black paint looks better when its cleaner, maybe cos my saab is dark blue and 10 years old as to why it doesnt shine and glow ....?

UK_WS6

3,336 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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Anatol said:
Carefully maintained flexiblade and waffle weave microfiber beats chamois hands down IMHO...

Tol


I must agree,
I have stopped using traditional Chamoies (sp0 now,
I find the kitchen blue / white stripe micro fibre is better

Don't think I will go back to chamoies any more.
G.