Anyone got a VE Commodore SS or SSV?

Anyone got a VE Commodore SS or SSV?

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Bibbs

3,733 posts

211 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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TAS1981 said:
That's a point Bibbs...what gearbox does yours have? The T56 or the T6060 or whatever it is?
Mines got the 6L80E. Which I'll be looking to tune once I find someone who can do it.

TAS1981

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498 posts

206 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Ah an auto is that? Part of me thinks that's not a bad idea to be honest. I don't love the manual box in mine and as you say you can tune the auto.

Does it come with flappy paddles? i don't think so right?

Bibbs

3,733 posts

211 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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TAS1981 said:
Ah an auto is that? Part of me thinks that's not a bad idea to be honest. I don't love the manual box in mine and as you say you can tune the auto.

Does it come with flappy paddles? i don't think so right?
Yup, an Auto. Can't be dealing with a manual now days with the Perth traffic light obsession.

No paddles, but the sifter is tip-tronic. Some of the US G8 guys have added paddles themselves using standard Camaro/Corvette parts. So I'll be looking into that and two tunes, one for 'normal' driving, and one for the 'sport mode' driving.

papahet

138 posts

130 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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If you are going out for a drive this weekend don't forget its double demerits through to Monday night.

The race car I am helping build has the gearbox from a VZ HSV...Not sure if it is the same as the VE box. Anyway that has got this shifter fitted: http://www.mgwltd.com/camaro-f-body.shtml

Shift action is stunning, super short and close together.

Bibbs

3,733 posts

211 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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papahet said:
If you are going out for a drive this weekend don't forget its double demerits through to Monday night.
I saw on the news there will be a lot of booze buses from Midnight Saturday after Grand Final.

So if your get pissed, make sure you drive home and get in before 12.

TAS1981

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498 posts

206 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Hold up...double demerits this weekend or next weekend?!

Bibbs

3,733 posts

211 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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TAS1981 said:
Hold up...double demerits this weekend or next weekend?!
We've Monday off (with the ACT).

ACT, SA, QLD, NSW have Monday off on the 7th.

(I notice the politicians in the ACT get both).

TAS1981

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498 posts

206 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Public servants getting more time off? Shocker! wink

Shame I just got my NSW licence really.

On a tangent, do you think that adding a MAF VCM intake will throw a code? I am inclined to think not and just get one and wait until I do exhuast for a tune. I don't think I will hurt it? I mean MX-5 and Scoob were both fine....this old tech V8 with MAF should be fine......


Bibbs

3,733 posts

211 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Something like this (30rwkw increase - blimey)?

http://www.vcmperformance.com.au/index.php/hproduc...

I'm sure the MAF vs MAF-less is just the connector between the intake and throttle body (they also do an SC one).

I assume when you go proper MAF-less you just add a MAP sensor on the intake plenum somewhere, and then swap the MAF with a nice open pipe.

I'd have thought anything in-front of the MAF wouldn't really be an issue.

Probably find the MAF can't deal with positive pressure either (had a similar problem on the S2000, where the stock MAP sensor didn't like boost - on an NA engine the ECU thinks something is drastically wrong).

It's just a posh air filter at the end of the day. Unless you get some ram effect going on at speed?

Edited by Bibbs on Friday 27th September 08:34

TAS1981

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498 posts

206 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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I would normally agree... however it seems that with the L98 (one of the reasons I bought it) is that the engine is so ridiculously strangled its easy to extract the power from it, this being one way. I mean a 6 litre V8 ONLY putting out 360bhp is pretty pathetic. 4 litre V8 Jag XK8 puts out 300...that's old now...

My understanding is you can get about 30kw with an intake and a tune, I think I'll get half of that with just an intake and I think it will rev more freely and sound better. Unfortunately I don't have the available folding...wait let me qualify that...I don't have funds that I can use justifiably... to spend on an exhaust, intake and tune. So it will be bit by bit. I think $550 (rip off by the way) for an intake should be my first step.

I'll still end up using it even if it throws a code and I have to take it off and wait for a tune and the rest.

VCM seems to be the best of the best as well, MAF when tuned seems to only be about 1kw off mafless...and it doesn't contravene the law.

ajg31

1,455 posts

208 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Bibbs said:
New motor.

Nice, something I would prob chop the Honda for. Apart from wanting a wagon version that is smile

Bibbs

3,733 posts

211 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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TAS1981 said:
the L98 (one of the reasons I bought it) is that the engine is so ridiculously strangled its easy to extract the power from it, this being one way.
Can't have you L98 owners upsetting us LS2 owners.

motomk

2,153 posts

245 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Bibbs said:
Can't have you L98 owners upsetting us LS2 owners.
Ah those fights! Had some of them over where I normally live!
The MAF v MAFless one was also a hum-dinger! Went on for ages...good 10 years ago, though.


TAS1981

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498 posts

206 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Hahaha!

Yeah L98 ...better flowing heads...blah blah blah.... I don't really care. With the GTS you get a lot of the good stuff already and it looks like the performance model...mine looks like every other car on the raod! Ha!

I plan to do some mods. I'd *love* to get to 3000rwkw or 400hp which apparently is doable....It will take me a while though.

Detailed the hell out of mine at the weekend for the first time... Argh...its a big car! My MX-5 took half the time! Still, most swirlies pretty much gone I think.

PS (I'll be going MAF to stay on the right side of the law! Apparently these days tuners can get pretty much the same MAF or not).


Bibbs

3,733 posts

211 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Yeah, just read that on the VE onwards the MAF isnt an issue.

Also read the GTS doesn't have one anyway. But doesn't say which GTS.

TAS1981

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498 posts

206 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Doesn't have one?! That's odd....perhaps it is the case only has to have one if it was manufatured with one and as long as it hits emissions then its ok....weird though.

What tyres did your's come with...I have bridgestones on the rear that will need replacing soon, I have ATR Achilles on the front which I think are rubbish. I have no pushed them but I had them before in the UK and they were cheap rubbish I inherited.

Bibbs

3,733 posts

211 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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I'd read none of the HSVs had one. But then it might only be related to the pre VE cars.

Tyres? Dunno. Recognised the brands, but nothing special. I know the are 275 on the back and 245 on the front, and as they are 20"s I'll be crying when it comes to replace them.

motomk

2,153 posts

245 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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Bibbs said:
I'd read none of the HSVs had one. But then it might only be related to the pre VE cars.

Tyres? Dunno. Recognised the brands, but nothing special. I know the are 275 on the back and 245 on the front, and as they are 20"s I'll be crying when it comes to replace them.
The 300kw VTII/VX/VY GTS sedans & coupes did not have the MAF on them, first appeared on the VTII GTS (Oz version, GTS-R in the UK) engine was built by Calloway.



Bibbs

3,733 posts

211 months

Thursday 3rd October 2013
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Thanks Moto. Explains a lot of what I've read.

TAS1981

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498 posts

206 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Made a new friend and compared motors a couple of weeks ago! Mine = standard sedan, his = tuned ute, cam, exhaust, intake, coil overs, wheels and soon brakes, clutch, enlarged intake manifold...sounds amazeballs!

Mine is cleaner though....I know, clutching at straws!

Rip shifter is a good mod but costly, full exhaust sounds great, also stock clutch on mine is crap. frown
Lit the rear up and the clutch pedal occasionally sticks to the floor... They all do it apparently! Even other GM cars using the same clutch gearbox combo! Oh well, 99% of the time no problem but a few launches and it plays up.

Couple if pics!