Daily Dreaming - what are you looking at?

Daily Dreaming - what are you looking at?

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Colonial

13,553 posts

204 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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NSNO said:
If by crap I assume that you are referring to the SMG then no it didn't. I presumed that it did as it shared its engine with the E46 M3 (which of course had an SMG option) but just checked and its manual only.
I've known 2 guys with SMG who have converted to manual because they were sick of gearbox issues hehe

I don't trust this new fangled technology.

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

180 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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NSNO said:
Wow that's a pretty decent price for over here. Shame about the colour and its a manual, if it was blue with SMG and the same seats then it would be perfect.
Agreed.

NSNO

333 posts

151 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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Colonial said:
I've known 2 guys with SMG who have converted to manual because they were sick of gearbox issues hehe

I don't trust this new fangled technology.
Fair enough but it seems to be like marmite as I know people who love it and hate in equal measures. Some people even prefer it to the newer and much smoother DCT because of its flaws as it adds character and is a bit more raw compared to the DCT.

PomBstard

6,728 posts

241 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Pommygranite said:
Colonial said:
Phenomenal value. Dont say that much in Oz but compared to an E46/E90 of a similar age thats just fabulous.

Much want.
Agreed, I'm no fan of the Z series, but that looks good compared to a lot of the E46 tat that's out there. In a similar vein, albeit 10 years older and $20k, this E36 M3 looks quite smart. Great colour/trim combo and proper box biggrin

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

180 months

Sunday 6th July 2014
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I've been thinking for a long time that if and when I reallocate the garage space from the 928 I'm going to get something more sensible and with less potential for big bills.



http://carsales.mobi/cars/details/1973-citroen-sm/...


custardtart

1,725 posts

252 months

Tuesday 8th July 2014
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Google [bot] said:
I'm going to get something more sensible and with less potential for big bills.



http://carsales.mobi/cars/details/1973-citroen-sm/...
biggrin

Colonial

13,553 posts

204 months

Tuesday 8th July 2014
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A combination of 1970s French electrics and 1970s Italian engine.

What could go wrong?

PomBstard

6,728 posts

241 months

Tuesday 8th July 2014
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Google [bot] said:
I've been thinking for a long time that if and when I reallocate the garage space from the 928 I'm going to get something more sensible and with less potential for big bills.



http://carsales.mobi/cars/details/1973-citroen-sm/...
Through the honeymoon period then...biggrin At least the SM will continue to look fantastic wherever it gets parked/abandoned

Colonial

13,553 posts

204 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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PomBstard said:
Through the honeymoon period then...biggrin At least the SM will continue to look fantastic wherever it gets parked/abandoned
Good point. It's public art. Not a car.

Pommygranite

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14,229 posts

215 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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I'm sorry for this but I can't help it - yes it's bogan, yes it's not prestige but fark me if its not damn good looking, desirable, near 500bhp with a little tinkering and oh for the GTR-esque tailpipes.

I'm not a trueblue so I don't see over priced, heavily depreciating trash but 'oh my god, old school RWD power'.

This in this spec (less the towbar) - perfect.





Hasbeen

2,073 posts

220 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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Why scrub the tow bar?

Surely horse floats & box trailers deserve a little excitement too.

Bibbs

3,733 posts

209 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Active Automotive are now doing a $20k drive in, drive out LSA swap.

Think it's about 500kw and they do it to any VE/VF ..

Pommygranite

Original Poster:

14,229 posts

215 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Hasbeen said:
Why scrub the tow bar?

Surely horse floats & box trailers deserve a little excitement too.
It looks like the cars 'prairie dogging'.


Bibbs said:
Active Automotive are now doing a $20k drive in, drive out LSA swap.

Think it's about 500kw and they do it to any VE/VF ..
That sounds phenomenal but what else would be required on top? Another $20k together it sensibly workable? Are you then at about $75k?


motomk

2,148 posts

243 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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On my other home, one fellow has put an LSA into his VF SS Redline. I would say $20k would be about right. The engines alone are around $12k.
Latest war is the power of the FPV GT-F might be more than the HSV VF GTS, too many F's, I'm getting confused which is which!


Bibbs

3,733 posts

209 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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I think it's car + $20k. So what's a VE SS going for now?

http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Holden-C...

$15k apparently. Then whatever change you can get from selling the original L98.

From their FB page :-

"Our conversion LSAs are fitted with our stage 2 package which gives around 600rwhp"

Looking at the Stage 2 :-

overdriven balancer
160deg thermostat
K&N filter
Supercharger pulley upgrade
solid supercharger pulley coupling
upgraded fuel injectors
uprated camshaft
uprated valve springs

Thats 580kw (~770hp)

And the way it's written, there is nothing to do on top of that.

Somehow a 770hp wagon seems right.

Edited by Bibbs on Thursday 10th July 02:42

Pommygranite

Original Poster:

14,229 posts

215 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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I think to own it would be amusing but on the buying/value side of things -

1.The cheapest VE SS in decent nick is what, $20k. Add $20k for the package, then say $10k for the wheels and brakes and you are at $50k for a 7 yr old Commodore. Not a lot for 770bhp but a large chunk for for an older car.

2. If you have the cash, great, but its hard to get a decent finance deal on a 7 yr old car with say a balloon or low apr - therefore I would think you;d need to have $30k available for the mods.

Whats the thinking - would others do it?

But 770bhp would be 'interesting'.

PomBstard

6,728 posts

241 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Hasbeen said:
Why scrub the tow bar?

Surely horse floats & box trailers jet skis deserve a little excitement too.
wink

And with 500kW, would be just about the fastest jet ski...

Colonial

13,553 posts

204 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Pommygranite said:
I think to own it would be amusing but on the buying/value side of things -

1.The cheapest VE SS in decent nick is what, $20k. Add $20k for the package, then say $10k for the wheels and brakes and you are at $50k for a 7 yr old Commodore. Not a lot for 770bhp but a large chunk for for an older car.

2. If you have the cash, great, but its hard to get a decent finance deal on a 7 yr old car with say a balloon or low apr - therefore I would think you;d need to have $30k available for the mods.

Whats the thinking - would others do it?

But 770bhp would be 'interesting'.
Nope.

I don't get Australian or us cars unless they are old cruisers

Pommygranite

Original Poster:

14,229 posts

215 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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What is it about them you don't like?

Question (which I'm not sure of the answer) but if you wanted a truck load of pwer for say under $70k or something quick, useable and modern what can you get that you can actually finance reasonably well?

For instance an E9# M3 08 is a fine car (I'd rather have than an HSV) or a E60 M5 but its hard to get balloon related finance on cars that old which means you are left needing to stick a chunk of cash in or on expensive per month cost.

Bibbs

3,733 posts

209 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Colonial said:
Nope.

I don't get Australian or us cars unless they are old cruisers
Different strokes and all that.

Where the thought of owning a BMW or a Euro hatchback sh*ts me to tears.

Pommygranite said:
I think to own it would be amusing but on the buying/value side of things -
And I agree, throwing $20k at a $20k car is madness. But I've done similar before.

The issue I have with the GenF is that only the GTS gets the LSA, and that's $100k.
Also, is there a series 2 round the corner? Flappy paddles and LT4?
A swan song for the Commodore?