Toying with the idea of moving to Australia

Toying with the idea of moving to Australia

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Google [bot]

6,682 posts

181 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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Google [bot] said:
Jader1973 said:
Let me see.....would I move here if I was 21 and single?

GET ON THE fkING PLANE! TODAY!!

Why are you still reading this? MOVE!
This would be my take on it.
ETA: My best mate moved over to Australia last year. The timing wasn't right, due to work, family etc, so moved back. He has a new found appreciation of the UK. Read into that what you will, but it reinforces the zero negative.

SkinnyBoy

4,635 posts

258 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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Family ties are the hardest part IMHO. You will miss out in the long run if you don't return yearly. It's amazing how quickly everything changes when you are not around. Life goes on as they say. I have 2 sisters and a brother who have 10 kids amongst them! Not seeing them grow up has been hard but when you do see them it's a bonus.

Anyways get ye arse over here. You have nothing to lose being so young.

Phil117

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1,538 posts

139 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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Thanks for all the feedback gents. Seems to be an overwhelming consensus here.

It was indeed £50,000 GBP rather than AUS so should be safe on salary. I also get a company car so no worries on that cost either.

Interesting that it's more of a nanny state over there. Did not know that.

I think I'll give it a shot. As I said, and many of you have agreed, if it goes tits up, there's no harm in returning.

I do need to double check all the visa bits as I remember being told 6 months of employed by one company so just need to sort it all out rather than just on a whim.

It's all very exciting stuff!


To those Australian's on here. the office I'll be based at is in Rosehill. Are there any nice places to look out for accommodation wise around there?

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

181 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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Phil117 said:
To those Australian's on here. the office I'll be based at is in Rosehill. Are there any nice places to look out for accommodation wise around there?
Nope! There are none.


I've got a little 'where in sydney you should not consider living' map at work I'll try and dig it out.

Hasbeen

2,073 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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You probably need a second or third language to live around there.

However it does give you a reasonable number of areas with in half an hours drive.

You would want to spend some time, trying different areas & the commute before committing to a long term lease.

What are your interests. If you want to spend your leisure time on the water, or at race circuits, you would chose very different areas to live.

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

181 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Here's my gorgeous map. I did this for someone that was going to be moving to the inner-west (which is where you'd want to be if you're going to be working at Rose Hill I'd say). You could go North of my suggested area (for not much benefit), or East (if you must have beaches n stuff), but you will pay in travel time and rental cost. The further east, the more happening. Don't go south and don't go west.


markirl

320 posts

137 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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My vote would be for Balmain/Drummoyne, but I'm biased.

Bibbs

3,733 posts

210 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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I don't think you'll find what you are looking for.
It's still 40 hour weeks (instead of 37.5), with heavy H&S and government red tape.
Driving isn't as fun, Sydney is a big, big city so you'll not feel the open spaces.
It's expensive to live here too, $75-85k wont go as far as 50k in the UK.
Our new government is to the right of UKIP (thank goodness).


But on the flip side, I live 8km out of Perth, have a big 4x2 and own a V8. I'll leave work before 3pm and head to the gym for an hour, and then head out for the evening.

It's the first week of winter and it's low 20s and dry. I just spent the weekend shopping, gardening and driving out in the hills and it was easy to get about and fun to drive once out the city.

Siscar

6,315 posts

129 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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£50k is obviously better than $50k, why is it quoted in £ though?

Company car? Are they expecting you to do a lot of miles? If not you will get hammered for tax although with the salary in £ and you only being on a 417 then are they expecting you to be there for long?

Parramatta/rosehilll? As others have said, you want to commute from somewhere else! The map posted looks pretty good although it's probably a statement of the obvious but the pin with an A on it isn't in Rosehilll which is off to the west. You are quite a distance out of Sydney there in the parts you wouldn't choose to live.

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Rosehill is a dump.

But you could be a grungy student type and live in Newtown. Or a pretentious arty type and live in Surry Hills.

It is an arse to get to from anywhere near a beach though. Think an industrial estate near Swindon with flies and baking hot sun and that sums it up.

supraboy

285 posts

184 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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DO IT!

im 21, and heading off to Perth in August for a year on a working visa.

Slightly different for me...

- I dont have a job offer
- I have a partner who is coming with me
- I have a sister out there who we will be living with at first

You have one life, and if you dont do it now, you will most likely settle down and never do it. Take the chance whilst you can, you will gain great life experience and at worst, you come back, and you've had a long holiday!

Get your transfer sorted and find a cheap one way flight smile.

Jader1973

3,981 posts

200 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Colonial said:
Rosehill is a dump.

But you could be a grungy student type and live in Newtown. Or a pretentious arty type and live in Surry Hills.

It is an arse to get to from anywhere near a beach though. Think an industrial estate near Swindon with flies and baking hot sun and that sums it up.
Jeez, I used to live in Swindon and it was a complete sthole - if it was baking hot and infested with flies then I wouldn't have lasted as long as I did.

However, rather than live in Sydney (and my knowledge of Sydney is very limited) would it be possible to live a similar commute time wise the other direction i.e. out of the city and live in a nice country town?

Kind of what I do - live in the Macedon Ranges and work in Port Melbourne (which is also similar to an industrial estate in Swindon, but close to a beach smile)

Having said that I'm not 21 and not single and am therefore not seeking entertainment every weekend. weeping

selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Phil117 said:
Thanks for all the feedback gents. Seems to be an overwhelming consensus here.

It was indeed £50,000 GBP rather than AUS so should be safe on salary. I also get a company car so no worries on that cost either.

Interesting that it's more of a nanny state over there. Did not know that.

I think I'll give it a shot. As I said, and many of you have agreed, if it goes tits up, there's no harm in returning.

I do need to double check all the visa bits as I remember being told 6 months of employed by one company so just need to sort it all out rather than just on a whim.

It's all very exciting stuff!


To those Australian's on here. the office I'll be based at is in Rosehill. Are there any nice places to look out for accommodation wise around there?
Good luck Phil, at your stage in life you can go over there, live a life, come back and live another life back here.

A cliche I know, but the world is your oyster. Or is the world your shrimp on the barbie?

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Jader1973 said:
Jeez, I used to live in Swindon and it was a complete sthole - if it was baking hot and infested with flies then I wouldn't have lasted as long as I did.

However, rather than live in Sydney (and my knowledge of Sydney is very limited) would it be possible to live a similar commute time wise the other direction i.e. out of the city and live in a nice country town?

Kind of what I do - live in the Macedon Ranges and work in Port Melbourne (which is also similar to an industrial estate in Swindon, but close to a beach smile)

Having said that I'm not 21 and not single and am therefore not seeking entertainment every weekend. weeping
Could do the commute from the blue mountains I guess.

I moved from Sydney to Newcastle and love it.

Hasbeen

2,073 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Colonial said:
Could do the commute from the blue mountains I guess.

I moved from Sydney to Newcastle and love it.
There is a train from the blue mountains, which might be quite good.

I used to leave the company car in the office underground car park in Sydney city, & catch the train to & from Cronulla. It was quicker & I could get home in time for a surf in summer.

PomBstard

6,771 posts

242 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Alternatively, just get a Working Holiday Visa, come over to Australia and live close to the fun (whatever that might mean for you) and get a job you can live with in terms of commute and pay. TBH, coming all the way out here and having to work in Rosehill would probably see me either (a) quitting the job or (b) on the next plane out of here. A friend of mine used to live in Swindon and called it the pimple on the arse of the M4.

Back to Aus... We came over on WHVs with no job, rented a unit in Newtown (which was a great spot for what we needed at the time) and found work easy enough. I know the rules have been tightened, but its still relatively easy to get a sponsored 457 visa if you're working for a reputable company or doing a job the country likes. We had an offer of sponsorship within 4 months, and were permanent residents within 18 months of landing here.

Summer in Sydney is much more pleasant if you can live closer to the beach - Stu's map of anything east of Olympic Park and north of the M4 is a good start, but really within a 30min drive would be my aim. So too is living outside of Sydney - in this instance I'd be heading north towards Newcastle, as per Colonial's move.

Whatever you think, don't think for too long. Get a visa that allows you to work, get on a plane and figure it out when you get here - it ain't hard. Summer in Sydney starts around late-Oct and it gets hot from about late Nov. Arrive before the majority of summer travellers and you'll get more choice of accommodation and work. Should be plenty of time...


StefanVXR8

3,603 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Definitely do it! My 457 visa is being processed as I type and myself and family are off to Perth thanks to a permanent job offer. I can't wait! I have just under two weeks to go at work, got the contracts to sign for our house sale today and I officially start on the 14th July.

I expect to be having a beer with Bibbs and the Perth PH boys very soon.

I'd be on the next flight given the chance!!

Good luck.

Stef

Pommygranite

14,244 posts

216 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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I get asked 'why did you move to Australia?' a fair bit. It's not a question of 'why?' but 'why not?'

Do it.


Hill Hunter

42 posts

180 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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I'm a little older than you at 27, but I fly out to Darwin on July 15th. Have got some wedge behind me but no prearranged job. Have 12 month visa that lets you work for a business for 3 months at a time.

I have a mate who has been out there for 4 years already - he has a trade though whereas I don't strictly speaking.

Still can't wait!

Siscar

6,315 posts

129 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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Hill Hunter said:
Have 12 month visa that lets you work for a business for 3 months at a time.
That's likely to be a 417 which allows you to work for one employer for 6 months, not 3.