Legal Position of Pay Structure Being Back Dated?

Legal Position of Pay Structure Being Back Dated?

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After_Shock

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8,751 posts

220 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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Whats the stand point of the ministry of employment out here regarding commission structures being back dated so your pay gets limited?

Curious if anyone has any in depth knowledge of the stand points. I cant put too much in writing on a public forum for obvious reasons however im getting royally shafted pay wise at work and would like to know if any avenues can be explored regarding stopping this.

Porridge GTI

300 posts

102 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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What does your contract say?

After_Shock

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220 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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Porridge GTI said:
What does your contract say?
Very little, nothing specific regarding pay structures being changed and back dated, or indeed anything about commission structures.

Was assuming must be something regarding a structure being set and worked at from the date its set, not work into it and then change it so get paid less despite what already achieved!

Or maybes being the middle east it is what it is, then its either time to find a other job or shift on to somewhere else.

Porridge GTI

300 posts

102 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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Your question seems to be: can my employer unilaterally change the terms of my employment? I doubt it unless the contract expressly provides for this, and would challenge them if I were you. An employer couldn't do this in the UK.

shirt

22,552 posts

201 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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this isn't the uk, they can effectively do anything they like. OP works for al futtain, so doubly so.

After_Shock

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Thursday 26th May 2016
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Porridge GTI said:
Your question seems to be: can my employer unilaterally change the terms of my employment? I doubt it unless the contract expressly provides for this, and would challenge them if I were you. An employer couldn't do this in the UK.
As mentioned regrettably we are not in the UK and also as above considering who I work for challenging them would probably be the equivalent of p*ssing into a gale force wind.

If I do challenge it I need another job to move to as one things a guarantee I wouldn't have a job pretty much immediately after trying to take any action against them, was just curious if a policy does exist and it is an avenue I could explore.

Porridge GTI

300 posts

102 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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If your contract doesn't expressly allow the employer to change terms unilaterally (if it does and you signed it, you're a mug) then I can't see how else they could do it, especially as, from what you say, the changes will have retrospective effect. Your next steps are therefore (a) read the contract and (b) find a lawyer to help you take action for breach.

After_Shock

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Tuesday 31st May 2016
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Porridge GTI said:
If your contract doesn't expressly allow the employer to change terms unilaterally (if it does and you signed it, you're a mug) then I can't see how else they could do it, especially as, from what you say, the changes will have retrospective effect. Your next steps are therefore (a) read the contract and (b) find a lawyer to help you take action for breach.
The contract of course does not state that they can do that.

Yes the changes do have a significant effect regrettably.

Think it be best if found another job first before going down the legal route as the second that hits the desk of them then they will find any which way to fire me as quickly as possible.

dxbtiger

4,389 posts

173 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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stty situation.

Have you spoken directly do the Ministry of Labour about this?

My friend had an issue with an ex company trying to screw him on his gratuity and they were pretty good.

After_Shock

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Thursday 2nd June 2016
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dxbtiger said:
stty situation.

Have you spoken directly do the Ministry of Labour about this?

My friend had an issue with an ex company trying to screw him on his gratuity and they were pretty good.
Not yet but think I need to.

Response from the company regarding my concerns is mind boggling to say the least.

shirt

22,552 posts

201 months

Thursday 2nd June 2016
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i can imagine its a case of you pissing in the wind. i could give many an anecdote that would highlight the fact that employers can do whatever the hell they like out here even if 100% uk owned FTSE100 operators. its one of the risks we take. bonus structures are almost always ill defined and abused.

i would speak whatever the equivalent of dealer principle is out here. if your sales figures warrant them to bend the rule they will sort something. if not then that just confirms your company don't value you, so move on.






After_Shock

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Friday 10th June 2016
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shirt said:
i can imagine its a case of you pissing in the wind. i could give many an anecdote that would highlight the fact that employers can do whatever the hell they like out here even if 100% uk owned FTSE100 operators. its one of the risks we take. bonus structures are almost always ill defined and abused.

i would speak whatever the equivalent of dealer principle is out here. if your sales figures warrant them to bend the rule they will sort something. if not then that just confirms your company don't value you, so move on.
Spoke with them who spoke with the powers that be, indirect and regrettably I didn't hear response was f off and get a job elsewhere, advice I shall be taking them up on.

Sales figures more than warrant keeping me, clearly they aren't too bothered about selling cars these days.

Pastures new and the hassle that comes with it and all..............................