3-Eleven Details Released

[otolith]

450bhp. Road and race versions. Race version dry weight under 900kg.

http://media.lotuscars.com/sites/default/files/The...

[Alex L]

Looks great but just that bit more than I wanted to spend, unfortunately I think I'll be taking my name off the waiting list as a replacement for my 2-Eleven

[the ronin]

I'll keep my car until they can make something better...... just sayin

Oh look here's something from 2007....

[otolith]

I guess the question for you is not what Lotus can do, with the constraints an oem has to work to, but what you could do starting with 3.5 litres...

[the ronin]

otolith said:

I guess the question for you is not what Lotus can do, with the constraints an oem has to work to, but what you could do starting with 3.5 litres...

I would turbo it to give it more power, this would also lower the CG of the engine by having the weight of the supercharger and charge cooler off the top of the engine and run a proper gearbox with a north/south layout.

This is just a crap design for a new car....

Edited by the ronin on Saturday 27th June 16:22

[RobM77]

the ronin said:

otolith said:

I guess the question for you is not what Lotus can do, with the constraints an oem has to work to, but what you could do starting with 3.5 litres...

I would turbo it to give it more power, this would also lower the CG of the engine by having the weight of the supercharger and charge cooler off the top of the engine and run a proper gearbox with a north/south layout.

This is just a crap design for a new car....

[pics]

I know our priorities regarding power and handling are different, as we've discussed this before, but as before I wholeheartedly agree regarding moving the CofG. It would be vastly preferable to have a longitudinal engine placement with the gearbox behind it and a dry sump, as with most purpose built racing cars of this type (e.g. Lola). My only criticisms of the 2-Eleven are the CofG (which is too high and too far back) and the slightly reluctant gearchange, but both have their roots in the OEM and budget constraints that Otolith mentions and I'm certain that Lotus would build a longitudinal chassis configuration if they could.

I should immediately follow that up by saying that with all of their current range, I think that Lotus punch well above their weight, both in terms of performance and handling compared to other cars for the same money and also in qualitative terms of how good the cars are to drive. For example, having driven the Exige S and Cayman S I would genuinely rather own and drive an Exige S, despite the Cayman's theoretical advantages in terms of CofG etc.

I just hope that Matt Becker's departure doesn't make itself felt in how the cars are to drive...

[the ronin]

The only changes to the 311 is a re-body that I can tell.. Handling should be the same since nothing has changed. If they are gaining 10 seconds a lap on the Evora S there must be something wrong with the Evora S they were testing....

I still think they should have turboed the 1.8 ltr 2ZZ and added some serious tire to take advantage of light weight and mechanical grip instead of theoretical high speed downforce...

Ya know something like this...after all they had the right car but they didn't know what to do with it..

[otolith]

It's a big chunk lighter than the V6 Exige it's derived from, and that's another chunk lighter than the Evora. Add 30% more power and it's going to be quicker on track.

[RobM77]

Have Lotus released any details of the car's mechanicals yet then? We know it's a new engine, gearbox, subframe and aero compared to the 2-Eleven, but I didn't think we knew any more than that? I'd guess at new brakes, wheels, tyres, ARBs, springs and dampers at the least.

[otolith]

Some more info here;

http://www.lotuscars.com/3eleven/

[otolith]

Some more info here;

http://www.lotuscars.com/3eleven/

[RobM77]

Sadly I can't access that website at work, but I do seriously doubt that it's just a re-body of the 2-Eleven (as much as I'd like that to be the case because I'm selling mine!).

[otolith]

It's Exige V6 based rather than Elise based, so there will be the basic architectural differences between those two cars.

[Stephanie Plum]

RobM77 said:

Sadly I can't access that website at work, but I do seriously doubt that it's just a re-body of the 2-Eleven (as much as I'd like that to be the case because I'm selling mine!).

[RobM77]

Stephanie Plum said:

RobM77 said:

Sadly I can't access that website at work, but I do seriously doubt that it's just a re-body of the 2-Eleven (as much as I'd like that to be the case because I'm selling mine!).

It's been a wonderful car Jo - it's not missed a beat and always excelled at what it does (one of those rare road cars that combines genuine pace with driver involvement and feedback). It feels really weird selling it to be honest. The problem is that after a few years of trackdays I've been tempted back into racing, so am sadly selling the 2-Eleven to fund a trailer and a Formula Renault.

[ESOG]

With the news and reveal of the new Lotus 311, my excitement lead me to look up videos of it on YouTube. If you go to the link that I posted you will find a video of the CEO of Lotus cars unveiling the new 311 and giving a short speech. Now, is it just me, or do you feel that this speech from this man, who is a CEO mind you, gave a very robotic and dry and unenthusiastic speech? For God's sake, put some personality into it. Rile the crowd up!!

"I am very excited to introduce to all of you our all new Lotus 311..." - said in slow monotone voice. "And I am very pleased to announce to all of you that this new car represents a small yet important peek into the near future of our determined company... We here at Lotus Cars are thrilled...

LOL yes mr CEO i-forgot-his-name, you look very excited. LOL

http://youtu.be/b_i5VfZar8o

[madmax1982]

video of the press presentation :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsB0SP9yVHw

[Boggy]

Rubbish Launch ! Very Very Poor !

Should have been ragged senseless up the hill killing everything !

Wasted opportunity !

Boggy