RE: Lotus 2-Eleven

[BlackandWhite]

I drive a ferrari 575m with all the right bits (yes I do think I'm special!) at least I did, until the 211 made an untimely blip on my radar. Invited to Hethel to partake in a 211 day and factory tour and always happy to partake in free fuel related antics I accepted. Novelty, PR Exercise, or whatever it may be proclaimed, I have never felt more connected with the pure spirit and skill that was and for some people still is the experience we call driving. The 211 directly reconnects the driver with the road in a way that is rarely experienced at any price. As such the 575 (my dream car) is now history and I patiently await the merry month of may when my 211 will be complete. I accept that 40 thousand is a lot to many and nothing much to many others, for me it is a lot, however in my humble opinion it really is that good. The clincher was a quick spin on the road, piloted by a very nice man named scott from a dealer somewhere in surrey. Feeling at one with both the road and the world around is something that only enters my perception when motorcycling, this is the four wheeled equivalent and more. Convinced? It seems so and if you get the chance then for your own sake drive it, it speaks for itself, although perhaps not on paper.

[Sam_68]

BlackandWhite said:

...The 211 directly reconnects the driver with the road in a way that is rarely experienced at any price.

I wouldn't disagree with anything you have so eloquently put.

The question is, did you try a £12K S1 Sport 160 before you put your deposit down on the 2-11 and, if so, did it feel £28K's worth (70%) less well connected?

No-one would dispute that all Elise variants give excellent dynamic feedback to the driver, but for all but the handful to whom money is no object, you've got to assess whether the 2-11 offers reasonable value for the large premium that Lotus are seeking.

[Scuffers]

Sam_68 said:

BlackandWhite said:

...The 211 directly reconnects the driver with the road in a way that is rarely experienced at any price.

I wouldn't disagree with anything you have so eloquently put.

The question is, did you try a £12K S1 Sport 160 before you put your deposit down on the 2-11 and, if so, did it feel £28K's worth (70%) less well connected?

No-one would dispute that all Elise variants give excellent dynamic feedback to the driver, but for all but the handful to whom money is no object, you've got to assess whether the 2-11 offers reasonable value for the large premium that Lotus are seeking.

Very well put...

[LathamJohnP]

Sam_68 said:

The question is, did you try a £12K S1 Sport 160 before you put your deposit down on the 2-11 and, if so, did it feel £28K's worth (70%) less well connected?

Stop press! Pistonheads forums bring shock revelations: "used car better value than new car" and "law of diminishing returns".

Still, from what I've read, some of the "USP" of the 2-11 is the variable traction control system, which will no doubt work its way through the range sooner or later. Probably not much use on a boggo N/A Elise though.

John

[Sam_68]

LathamJohnP said:

Stop press! Pistonheads forums bring shock revelations: "used car better value than new car" and "law of diminishing returns".

Still, from what I've read, some of the "USP" of the 2-11 is the variable traction control system, which will no doubt work its way through the range sooner or later. Probably not much use on a boggo N/A Elise though.

John

I could argue that relatively extreme 'enthusiasts' cars are not subject to quite the same rules of depreciation to mass-produced euroboxes - hence their different (usually lower) depreciation. Unlike a BMW 318, you don't need this year's plate to prove that you are a keeping up with the Joneses... indeed some would argue that an Exige S1, 340R or Sport 160 (or a Honda'd S1) gives a better rating on the 'knowledgeable enthusiast'>>>>'all the gear, no idea' scale. By pitching the price so high, Lotus runs the risk of destroying the car's credibility because, even if they can afford it, prospective purchasers won't want to run the risk of being viewed as rich idiots who were conned into splurging £40K on a £25K kit car...

But fair point. I'll rephrase my question:

Did you try a £24K brand new Elise S before you put the deposit down on the 2-11 and, if so, did it feel £16K's worth (40%) less 'well connected'?

Law of diminishing returns is all very well; plenty of people are willing to recognise that the best possible technology costs a disproportionately large amount, but the 2-11 is basically just an Elise SC under the skin and, moreover, has a lot of expensive components removed.

Remember that when originally announced, Lotus were talking about mid-£20K's for a nat asp variant, which would price it (sensibly) on a par with the Elise S/Elise SC. What you gain in costs for limited production, you lose in 'decontenting' of components like screen/hood/windows, interior trim etc. Similarly, you balance the cars increased exclusivity against its reduced practicality/useability.

USP of a traction control system on a track car is nothing short of bizarre... why would anyone want to buy a track car on the grounds that it has electronics, not available on a lesser model, that make driver skill and involvement less critical?! The only 'variability' you need with TCS is an 'off' button.

[Stephanie Plum]

Sam_68 said:

even if they can afford it, prospective purchasers won't want to run the risk of being viewed as rich idiots who were conned into splurging £40K on a £25K kit car...

But fair point. I'll rephrase my question:

Did you try a £24K brand new Elise S before you put the deposit down on the 2-11 and, if so, did it feel £16K's worth (40%) less 'well connected'?

Bit harsh? I am neither rich, nor do I consider myself an idiot, yet I have a 2-11 on the way.

And yes, in answer to your question, I have driven at length (ie not just a quick trip round a test route) the Elise S, Elise R, Exige S and Elise SC - I consider well in excess of 400 miles in each of those cars a decent test drive. I also own an S2111S. And I still ordered a 2-11.

Neither did an Elise S1 of any derivative come anywhere near my thought process, having again driven and passengered in many, they do not do it for me.

I'm happy with my purchase - if you don't like the car, or believe that it offers value for money, or think it's a kit car, I don't really care tbh. So why do you mind that some of us do like it, and have purchased one?

[Jamesf288]

Stephanie Plum said:

Sam_68 said:

even if they can afford it, prospective purchasers won't want to run the risk of being viewed as rich idiots who were conned into splurging £40K on a £25K kit car...

But fair point. I'll rephrase my question:

Did you try a £24K brand new Elise S before you put the deposit down on the 2-11 and, if so, did it feel £16K's worth (40%) less 'well connected'?

Bit harsh? I am neither rich, nor do I consider myself an idiot, yet I have a 2-11 on the way.

And yes, in answer to your question, I have driven at length (ie not just a quick trip round a test route) the Elise S, Elise R, Exige S and Elise SC - I consider well in excess of 400 miles in each of those cars a decent test drive. I also own an S2111S. And I still ordered a 2-11.

Neither did an Elise S1 of any derivative come anywhere near my thought process, having again driven and passengered in many, they do not do it for me.

I'm happy with my purchase - if you don't like the car, or believe that it offers value for money, or think it's a kit car, I don't really care tbh. So why do you mind that some of us do like it, and have purchased one?

Spot on.

[Sam_68]

Stephanie Plum said:

So why do you mind that some of us do like it, and have purchased one?

I don't mind at all, Stephanie - I'm glad that you like the car and I'm happy you've purchased one.

Just that as a Lotus enthusiast and owner of long standing, I don't want to see the company go the way of TVR... and their current marketing strategy - the Europa and increasing desperate, wildy over-priced Elise platform niche variants is not doing either their reputation or their bank-balance any good.

[Stephanie Plum]

Sam_68 said:

Stephanie Plum said:

So why do you mind that some of us do like it, and have purchased one?

I don't mind at all, Stephanie - I'm glad that you like the car and I'm happy you've purchased one.

Just that as a Lotus enthusiast and owner of long standing, I don't want to see the company go the way of TVR... and their current marketing strategy - the Europa and increasing desperate, wildy over-priced Elise platform niche variants is not doing either their reputation or their bank-balance any good.

Last time I was up there I didn't see any mad Russian schoolboys wandering around

I'm not convinced all the variants are over-priced - they've sold well over their target of 2-11s at this stage so you could say that's going pretty well, and it wasn't a particularly high cost development after all! The SC is a great car - the B&C one I've spent time in is very well put together, yet retains that great feeling of being in something a bit different and special, which frankly a TT or Boxster doesn't give me.

I don't want them to go down the wrong route either - I have an Esprit on order so the Eagle needs to be good!!

[L100NYY]

I agree that a S160 et al will offer very similar driving thrills to a 2-11 but plenty of people still bought new S160's at the time of launch so does that make them daft too?

An S160 was £30k ish when it was launched was it not?

[Sam_68]

Yes, the S160 was £30K... so 25% less than the 2-11 in a less saturated market, for a car that didn't need to recoup anything like the same development costs (which will take volume sales!).

The 2-11 seems to be a missed opportunity... its more compliant suspension, greater ground clearance and more friendly power delivery compared to the true track day specials (Westfield XTR4, Radical, Caterham CSR, etc.) means that it could have been a long-term prospect, competing with the likes of Roadsports Caterhams as an extreme but genuinely road useable 'weekend car'. That market has been ticking over, providing Caterham, Westfield and Aeriel with a nice, steady income for a number of years now, and Lotus could have carved a share for itself. Instead, it looks like the 2-11 will follow the 340R into commercial oblivion as a short term, loss-making 'halo project'.

[Stephanie Plum]

Sam_68 said:

Yes, the S160 was £30K... so 25% less than the 2-11 in a less saturated market, for a car that didn't need to recoup anything like the same development costs (which will take volume sales!).

The 2-11 seems to be a missed opportunity... its more compliant suspension, greater ground clearance and more friendly power delivery compared to the true track day specials (Westfield XTR4, Radical, Caterham CSR, etc.) means that it could have been a long-term prospect, competing with the likes of Roadsports Caterhams as an extreme but genuinely road useable 'weekend car'. That market has been ticking over, providing Caterham, Westfield and Aeriel with a nice, steady income for a number of years now, and Lotus could have carved a share for itself. Instead, it looks like the 2-11 will follow the 340R into commercial oblivion as a short term, loss-making 'halo project'.

I disagree completely. The 2-11 development costs were not huge - unless you have figures you can publish? And it is a genuinely usable weekend car - I plan to take mine across Europe - starting with France in April and then Spain in June. Just because it doesn't have a windscreen doesn't mean it isn't usable. The Atom doesn't have one - and I don't hear owners complaining. Why do you insist that it is so different?

[Sam_68]

Stephanie Plum said:

I disagree completely. The 2-11 development costs were not huge - unless you have figures you can publish?

No, I don't have figures I can publish. Do you? (genuine question; I'd be interested to know)

I do know how much it costs to develop and manufacture high-quality body moulds for a new car design, however, and it's a pretty scary sum... you're certainly talking several hundred thousand pounds, and that's before you even start with any of the engineering development work.

In motor industry terms, it's peanuts - BMW will spend more money developing a cupholder - but on a very niche product like the 2-11, it is a significant cost which it is safer to amortise over larger production numbers.

Stephanie Plum said:

And it is a genuinely usable weekend car - I plan to take mine across Europe - starting with France in April and then Spain in June. Just because it doesn't have a windscreen doesn't mean it isn't usable. The Atom doesn't have one - and I don't hear owners complaining. Why do you insist that it is so different?

Yes, I agree that it's a genuinely useable weekend car... that was my whole point in saying that it's a missed opportunity.

It's at least as useable as a typical Caterham, and Caterham have been selling several hundred cars a year for the last quarter of a century on the reflected glamour of Lotus' reputation, by selling them at a premium but not exhorbitant price.

Compare the Caterham to the Lotus 340R, which struggled to sell its allocation...

Or my Westfield FW400 - technically one of the most sophisticated and quickest weekend track cars built, even to date, and designed by an ex-Lotus F1 Chief Designer. But with a price tag almost identical to the 2-11 (albeit 8 years ago), they only managed to sell 6 of them...

Or the LCC Rocket - another groundbreaking design by one of the best, most respected designers in the business, but which, again due to a price tag remarkably similar to the 2-11, has only sold in tiny numbers.

Only time will tell which one of us is right, but IMO Lotus should have been pitching the car as a quality, modern alternative to the Caterham, at well-established, market-tolerated prices, instead of trying to do a quick smash-and-grab on the wallets of a handful of people before they realise they're being ripped off...

[TarmacT]

Sam_68 said:

Did you try a £24K brand new Elise S before you put the deposit down on the 2-11 and, if so, did it feel £16K's worth (40%) less 'well connected'?

Sam_68 said:

The question is, did you try a £12K S1 Sport 160 before you put your deposit down on the 2-11 and, if so, did it feel £28K's worth (70%) less well connected?

Sam_68 said:

Yes, the S160 was £30K... so 25% less than the 2-11

Cor blimey, where do you work? The tax office or something?

You cant put a percentage on this type of car, they are strictly for fun value only, bought with the heart not the head.

At the end of the day you can either afford one or you cant. Simple as that.

Im happy with the price they are, Lotus should be returning some good profit on the cars they sell (and by all accounts they are selling well considering the target audience)and they retain some exclusivity... Bargain

[TarmacT]

L100NYY said:

I agree that a S160 et al will offer very similar driving thrills to a 2-11 but plenty of people still bought new S160's at the time of launch so does that make them daft too?

An S160 was £30k ish when it was launched was it not?

I have come from an s2 exige to a 2-11 so pretty much the same underneath. The 2 cars are nothing alike in driving thrills! The 2-11 is a motorbike experience on 4 wheels without any of the drawbacks of only having 2 wheels.

A s160 has nothing in common with the driving experienc of a 2-11 that is for sure.

[Sam_68]

TarmacT said:

You cant put a percentage on this type of car, they are strictly for fun value only, bought with the heart not the head.

There are typically several Britsh sports car companies per year that disappear without trace because they make this mistake.

Let's play a little game listing them if you like?

I'll throw in a few off the top of my head to start you off with:

Strathcarron
Vemac
Trident
TVR
Spectre
Marcos
Invicta
Jensen
Farboud
Ascari
AC
Noble

Stephanie suggests that Lotus are approaching 200 orders on the 2-11's. To put that in context, it's around 1/3th of a typical year's production for Caterham - the 2-11's closest competitor in practical terms - and that's on the crest of the wave of launch publicity, initial enthusiasm and press road tests, and includes the pre-launch orders that have accumulated since the car was first announced back in 2005 (and as HBaumhardt has said in another thread, those who think the 2-11's development costs were raided from the tea fund need to ask themselves why it has taken 2 years to move from the launch prototype to production).

I'm sure that Porsche are quaking in their boots...

Don't get me wrong - as an enthusiast I love the idea of these limited production technical curiosities (which is why I own one of possibly two FW400's left in the country), but I also want to see Lotus survive as a car manufacturer. If the company wants to be around in 2 years time as more than just an engineering consultancy, they need to sack the marketing team who were deluded enough to pitch the Europa at the Cayman's price point and the 2-11 at half as much again as a Caterham Superlight.

[dinkel]

It's going well then.

I see a 2-11 class race . . . .

[TarmacT]

"04 March 2008 NEWS RELEASE

N E W S R E L E A S E
Lotus “Entry Level” 2-Eleven

Choosing your track day performance car has just become a lot more exciting with the introduction of the entry level 2-Eleven and extensive range of Lotus Sport performance options.

£27,995 MSRP inc VAT in UK
€34,695 excluding tax, duties & delivery charges
CHF 55,955 excluding tax, duties & delivery charges

The latest Lotus 2-Eleven, bristling with Lotus Sport options and wearing a dramatic carbon fibre body was exhibited at the 78 th annual Geneva International Motor show. This car has been specified with, amongst other options, the 255 PS (252 bhp, 188 kw) power upgrade, carbon fibre tonneau cover, four piston front brakes, “Aero Pack” and “Sport Pack” as an example of how the new range of Lotus Sport options can be configured.

Mike Kimberley, CEO of Group Lotus plc commented: “The 2-Eleven has been exceptionally well received worldwide, which has provided Lotus with a significant challenge to keep pace with demand.” He went on to add “It is very encouraging to see that the 2-Eleven is asserting itself as class leader in the track day enthusiast sector and to hear all the incredibly positive feedback from people enjoying the 2-Eleven’s fantastic performance”.

The 2-Eleven made its global debut at the 77 th annual Geneva International Motor show in 2007 available in launch specification with the supercharged 255 PS (252 bhp, 188 kw) engine, in either UK Single Vehicle Approval (SVA) or Track Only guise for the introductory price of £39,995/ € 49,573.

After suggestions from Lotus racers and owners, the 2-Eleven will now be available as an entry level car with a number of option packs to tailor to owners’ individual requirements. As well as a number of performance option packs such as the Track Day pack and UK road SVA pack, there are a range of stand alone options that now include two different Limited Slip Differentials, an FIA approved 70 litre bag fuel tank and a removable competition steering wheel.

Roger Becker, Vehicle Engineering Director explained, “It is an imperative that all Lotus cars have to be fun to drive and the 2-Eleven epitomises this DNA rule with its blistering performance. It provides serious quantities of fun, either whizzing down country roads in SVA trim or on track pushing to the limits of grip”. He continued, “the suspension of the 2-Eleven has been extensively tuned by our Dynamics Engineers to provide optimum handling for track driving, giving an involving set-up that rewards drivers with exceptional balance and control at the limit”.

Lotus is a company committed to continual improvement and one facet of this dedication is pushing the boundaries of performance through light weight. The entry level car, which at 720 kg (1600 lbs) epitomises the Lotus “performance through lightweight” mantra, is powered by the naturally aspirated, high revving 190 PS (189 hp, 141 kw) engine from the Elise R. This 2Eleven even in its most basic specification shows a remarkable turn of pace with the sprint to 60 mph taking just 4.3 seconds and achieving a top speed of 140 mph (225 km/h).

With the introduction of the naturally aspirated model and upgrade options, there are now many permutations that 2-Eleven can be ordered in, giving an incredible opportunity to create individual customer bespoke cars – in theory no two cars need be the same! The full Lotus paint palette including Lifestyle colours, Metallic colours and Premium colours is available to further customise the 2-Eleven (a full list of 2008 options is attached along with a UK and EU price list). The Launch colour scheme along with the Red Scorpion, Orange Bobcat, Yellow Hornet and Green Dragon schemes are all available as a cost option.

The 255 PS supercharged engine as featured on the Launch Edition is retained as an option, which lowers the zero to 60 mph time to a staggering 3.8 seconds with 0-100 km/h in 4.0 seconds. The addition of the supercharger increases torque to 242 Nm (179 lb.ft), offering greater flexibility for sensational in gear acceleration and an increase in top speed to 150 mph (241 km/h).

The entry level and launch edition are available with the incredibly popular UK SVA option pack, making it possible for owners to drive to a circuit, race around all day and drive home in the evening without the hassle and expense of a trailer. This option is definitely worth ticking. It is also now possible to get these 2-Elevens road registered in a number of markets around the world using the relevant territory specific registration approval process.

The light weight of the 2-Eleven translates into lightning turn-in and intoxicating performance, providing a very addictive tonic. In entry level specification with the order box for the carbon fibre body ticked, the 2-Eleven comes in at a featherweight kerb mass of 700 kg (1540 lbs), which equates to a dry weight of just 648 kg (1430 lbs).

The addition of the Aero Pack gives the ability to change the high speed balance of the car through adjustment of the rear wing angle: with the wing set at maximum attack over 10 % of the vehicle’s weight is generated in downforce at 100 mph (160 kph). The Aero Pack consists of a race proven adjustable carbon fibre rear wing and to provide front to rear aerodynamic balance, a lengthened composite front splitter is incorporated. Even in SVA trim with the road legal aerodynamic aids the 2-Eleven produces 60 kg (132 lbs) of downforce at 100 mph (160 km/h)

As with all Lotus cars the 2-Eleven steering communicates every nuance of the road, with the race car derived double wishbone suspension and road legal semi-slick Lotus specific compound Yokohama AO48 tyres. With the inclusion of the Sport Pack, Ohlins 2-way adjustable dampers are fitted allowing the suspension to be tuned in harmony with the aero pack. This gives the option to dial in customer preferred handling characteristics to slice those final tenths off the perfect lap. "
______________

Entry Level Car: £27,995 (MSRP inc VAT) / €34,695* / CHF 55,955* 2-Eleven High Side chassis Standard Galvanised Subframe ABS Switchable Traction Control Lotus Sport Drivers Seat (cloth trim) Standard adjustable drivers seat runners 4 point “E” marked drivers harness Column Mounted Ignition and Steering Lock Standard Elise IP with trip meter reset button 12volt Power Socket Battery Master Switch with Plastic Key Starter Button Single Central Mirror Normally aspirated 190 PS 2ZZGE engine Non-Catalytic Exhaust Downpipe Double Pass Expansion Silencer 2-Eleven Specific ECU Oil/Water Intercooler Accusump FIA / SVA compliant fuel filler Double shear toe link brace Non – Adjustable Bilstein Dampers 100/110 ride height Adjustable Front Anti-Roll Bar Y type 8 spoke Cast Wheels – Hi Power Silver or Black, body Colour Dependant Yokohama LTS A048 tyres FIA compliant Rear Roll Hoop Padding on forward legs of Roll Hoop Full Grille set Single Plane SVA compliant GRP rear Wing Standard Length Front Splitter Lotus Sport Build Plate “Lotus Sport” External Decals “Lotus” and “2-Eleven” Decals “Union Flag” Decal Paint from Standard Lotus Range
Lotus Sport Option Packs

255 PS Supercharger Pack: £4,495 (MSRP inc VAT) / €5,575* / CHF 8,985* Supercharger kit including
manifolds
Uprated Fuel Pump
Rear Mounted Air/Air
intercooler with ducted entry
Motorsport Clutch
Peak Torque Limiting Valve in clutch line
Twin Air/Oil Coolers
Supercharged 2-Eleven ECU
“Supercharged” Decal

Sport Pack: £3,495 (MSRP inc VAT) / €4,335 * / CHF 6,985*:
7 Twin Spoke Ultra Lightweight Forged Alloy Wheels – High Power Silver or Black Ohlins 2 way adjustable dampers
RS 14 brake pads
Braided Stainless Steel
Brake Hoses
LSC – Adjustable Traction control

Aero Pack (Track Use Only): £1,995 (MSRP inc VAT) / €2,475* / CHF 3,985* Adjustable Carbon Fibre single element rear wing
Aluminium Wing End Plates
Extended front splitter

Track Day Pack: £1,495 (MSRP inc VAT) / €1,855* / CHF 2,985* (Not compatible with SVA Pack or Track Day pack with Lights):
Rear DI’s,
Fog Lights,
Reverse Lights
Brake Lights
Rear Lighting Harness
Indicator Stalk
Fog light switch
Side Mirrors
Hand Held Fire Extinguisher
Front and Rear Tow Eyes

Track Day Pack with Lights pack, £2,495 (MSRP inc VAT) / €3,095* / CHF 4,985* (Not compatible with SVA Pack or Track Day Pack)
Headlamp units
Front DI units
Mounting panel for headlamps
Side Repeaters
Rear DI’s,
Fog Lights,
Reverse Lights
Brake Lights
Lighting Harness
Lighting Switch panel
Indicator/Dip Stalk
Horn
Side Mirrors
Hand Held Fire Extinguisher
Front and Rear Tow Eyes

UK SVA Pack: £ 3,495 (MSRP inc VAT) / €4,335* – CHF 6,985* (Not compatible with Track Day Pack or Track Day Pack with Lights)
Front and Rear Number plate bracket and lights
Headlamp units
Front DI units
Mounting panel for headlamps
Side Repeaters
Rear DI’s,
Fog Lights,
Reverse Lights
Brake Lights
Lighting Harness
Lighting Switch panel
Indicator/Dip Stalk
Horn
Exhaust Downpipe with Catalyst
Side Mirrors
Radius trim Red Anodised Aluminium Battery Master Switch Knob Stand Alone

Options UK:
All prices are MSRP inc VAT
Lotus Sport Passenger Seat cloth trim,
Fixed Mounts & 4 Point E Marked Harness £750

FIA approved Drivers Race seat with Bolt-in mounts & 6 point Race harness £750

“Launch Edition” Leather Seat Trim (Sport Seats Only) per seat £350

“Launch Edition” Paint and Graphic Decal Set £2,495

Painted Brake Calipers £495

Forged 5 Spoke (7x16 & 8x17) Black or Hi Power Silver (Sport Pack Only) £500

Twin Air/Oil Coolers (190 NA engine only) £995

Torsen Limited Slip Differential £995

Plate Type Limited Slip Differential £1,695

Removable Steering Wheel and Boss £395

Stage 1 Sport Silencer £285

Cockpit Shower Cover £180

Polished Intercooler Pipes £195

Front and Rear Tow Eyes £250

Hand Held Fire Extinguisher £65

Electrically Fired Plumbed in Fire Extinguisher £1,495

70 litre FIA FT3 bag fuel tank £2,495

FIA Rollover Structure Certificate and Decal £95

Fitted Dust Cover (SVA Rear Wing Version) £295

Fitted Dust Cover (Race Rear Wing Version) £295

Fabric Tonneau Cover (Due May 2008) £495

Carbon Fibre Body Panels (price dependant on specification and finish) £POA

Rigid Tonneau and Screen (GRP) £1,250

Carbon Fibre Rigid Tonneau (price dependant on specification and finish) £POA

Four Piston front calipers and 2 piece front discs £1,495

Anderson Plug External Connector and Cables £250


Stand Alone Options EU: All prices are excluding Tax

Lotus Sport Passenger Seat cloth trim, Fixed Mounts & 4 Point E Marked Harness €930

FIA approved Drivers Race seat with Bolt-in mounts & 6 point Race harness €930

“Launch Edition” Leather Seat Trim (Sport Seats Only) per seat €435

“Launch Edition” Paint and Graphic Decal Set €3,095

Painted Brake Calipers €615
Forged 5 Spoke (7x16 & 8x17) Black or Hi Power Silver (Sport Pack Only) €620

Twin Air/Oil Coolers (190 NA engine only) €1,235

Torsen Limited Slip Differential €1,235

Plate Type Limited Slip Differential €2,100

Removable Steering Wheel and Boss €490

Stage 1 Sport Silencer €355

Cockpit Shower Cover €225

Polished Intercooler Pipes €245

Front and Rear Tow Eyes €310

Hand Held Fire Extinguisher €80

Electrically Fired Plumbed in Fire Extinguisher €1,855

70 litre FIA FT3 bag fuel tank €3,095

FIA Rollover Structure Certificate and Decal €120

Fitted Dust Cover (SVA Rear Wing Version) €365

Fitted Dust Cover (Race Rear Wing Version) €365

Fabric Tonneau Cover (Due May 2008) €615

Carbon Fibre Body Panels (price dependant on specification and finish) €POA

Rigid Tonneau and Screen (GRP) €1,545

Carbon Fibre Rigid Tonneau (price dependant on specification and finish) €POA

Four Piston front calipers and 2 piece front discs €1,855

Anderson Plug External Connector and Cables €310

2-Eleven specific Accessories available from your Lotus Dealer: High Windscreen (25mm taller than standard) £345

Side Mirrors £150

Edited by TarmacT on Tuesday 4th March 21:33

[crackthatoff]

what....is this a forum full of acountants?
as someone pointed out before, the heart rules.
the performance,handling and looks are enough for me (not that I can have one)
40k is miles more than I can afford but at half the price of a sorted 911 who can argue!

go steph !!!!!!!!

[JenkinsComp]

Saw a beautiful black/yellow decals 211 just like the pic in the first post in this thread this morning. Driver wearing white lid too, in London traffic at 9:40am around Gower Street. I love the 211, really wish i had drawn that! Fair play for using it in London traffic! Reminded me of when I used to take my Sylva Fury to work in rushhour! The 211 is a wicked car.

Still, given the temperature today I was glad to be in air conditioned comfort in my C6 Z06! Nice try from the lights, but I'm afraid that even a 211 can't live with an LS7...