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Furyous
9,353 posts
90 months
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As I always say to the knockers, if you havnt driven one, how can you know ?
That chassis is sublime, even with only 140hp in the Liz S it rocks,and the track car will be bliss in its element.
Yes,its not cheap......but it aint that dear either.
Horses for courses.Thems that know will be buying, and I bet the Liz trophy next year will be full of 'em.
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goater
3 posts
87 months
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Looks great but 40k....Check out the Retoga (www.retoga.com). Now thats a great track day car!
Plus only 26k.
Must confess to being slightly biased.....
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dan1502
647 posts
84 months
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Sam_68 said: TimJMS said: VeeUUowner said: the whole idea of track day is to try and win rather than just drive I think you are confusing track days with racing. Like Tim says... track days are supposed to be non competitive. They're supposed to be about driving at you and your vehicle's limits in a safe, legal environment. Unless you're an experienced and adept racer, a bog standard S1 Elise is capable of outperforming most drivers in terms of ability, so why pay £40 for something with lots of toys that, being honest, most people don't have the skills to fully exploit? This might be true. I'm no Lewis Hamilton but I went on a training day at Silverstone in an Exige (with Anthony Dunn - excellent training and value by the way) then was lucky enough to be invited to Brands Hatch the following week on a corporate day and as well as taking my S2000 on the track I got to drive an Exige S. The training as Silverstone was in the pouring rain and it was a lovely sunny day at Brands. Though I was probably driving nowhere near the Exige's limit it was fantastic fun. The extra torque and power of the S put an even bigger smile on my face and gave me he ability to overtake all sorts on the straights. If I were to buy a car like this I'd definitely go for the S and if I had plenty of money I'd probably go for one of these, especially with the adjustable traction control which I could start fully on and reduce as my skills improve and I got used to the car - just dreaming there though. That said, for three of us all day at Silverstone it worked out about £400 each with 30 - 40 laps including training in an Exige.. I can't really justify buying a track car compared to that value.
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steve kerr
5 posts
151 months
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A KTM X-Bow is bang up to date(not 90's technology)and a damn sight cheaper. No wonder they've got a thousand confirmed orders. Lotus have sold about 500 cars so far in 2007 and I don't think the 2-eleven's going to add many more at that price. Come on Lotus sort your prices out if you want to do numbers and stop another sell out!
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L100NYY
26,787 posts
112 months
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steve kerr said: A KTM X-Bow is bang up to date(not 90's technology)and a damn sight cheaper. No wonder they've got a thousand confirmed orders. But, as mentioned earlier, apparantley they are not confirmed orders but in fact names and addresses of people that expressed an interest according to the KTM salesman. Plus, every Lotus dealer can service and maintain a 2 Eleven with the same intervals as a regular Exige.
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Mikeyboy
5,010 posts
104 months
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steve kerr said: A KTM X-Bow is bang up to date(not 90's technology)and a damn sight cheaper. No wonder they've got a thousand confirmed orders. Lotus have sold about 500 cars so far in 2007 and I don't think the 2-eleven's going to add many more at that price. Come on Lotus sort your prices out if you want to do numbers and stop another sell out! 500 cars in six months. Thats shocking. They really need to get the 2+2 and the Esprit out sharpish. The Lotus is a track day tool and an expensive one at that. Despite all its merits or demerits it will not sell in significant numbers. It wouldn't even if it were 20k cheaper. In some ways its a blind alley for Lotus as a company. they would have been bette to have announced/shown the esprit as put this up for sale if they want to survive without Proton.
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dinkel
21,040 posts
127 months
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I so much want a testdrive in this . . . Adam, you lucky . . . you.
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L100NYY
26,787 posts
112 months
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dinkel said: I so much want a testdrive in this . . . Adam, you lucky . . . you. I've driven it Dink!  We get our one pretty soon and we will be getting it to every god damn trackday that we can!! 
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dinkel
21,040 posts
127 months
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L100NYY
26,787 posts
112 months
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dinkel said: :easyjet: Update me Ben! I will indeed chap, bonus is that our dealership is 2 miles away from Stansted airport! 
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dandarez
4,476 posts
152 months
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As a track day car yes, but 'road'? The things fills up with water in rain shower, ie just another bath tub and no screen. WHY do they try and make out these things are dual purpose? Autocar (Lotus Weekly) has just given it EIGHT pages in their Road Test no. *!***** whatever. ROAD TEST? It's NOT a road car. WHY do we get this? EASY. It's JUST because it's a Loti. If it were anything else it would be a thumbnail hidden in the what's new. As for 40 grand - they must be havin' a  Might just as well as put 90! Me? If it had to be a Loti, and new? I'd rather be flat out on a dual carriageway in an EXIGE any day (AND probably be easily overtaking any 2-Eleven (should there be a REMOTE chance of encountering one) because if there was the very lightest of showers (that's pretty remote too in the UK , more likely to be a downpour) the poor sod in the 2-Eleven wouldn't see where he was going and have to pull over in the nearest layby and then bale out - literally! Road car? Laughable.
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Stephanie Plum
1,830 posts
80 months
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dandarez said: As a track day car yes, but 'road'? The things fills up with water in rain shower, ie just another bath tub and no screen. WHY do they try and make out these things are dual purpose? Autocar (Lotus Weekly) has just given it EIGHT pages in their Road Test no. *!***** whatever. ROAD TEST? It's NOT a road car. WHY do we get this? EASY. It's JUST because it's a Loti. If it were anything else it would be a thumbnail hidden in the what's new. As for 40 grand - they must be havin' a Might just as well as put 90! Me? If it had to be a Loti, and new? I'd rather be flat out on a dual carriageway in an EXIGE any day (AND probably be easily overtaking any 2-Eleven (should there be a REMOTE chance of encountering one) because if there was the very lightest of showers (that's pretty remote too in the UK , more likely to be a downpour) the poor sod in the 2-Eleven wouldn't see where he was going and have to pull over in the nearest layby and then bale out - literally! Road car? Laughable. Don't worry. Nobody is asking you to buy one. Those of us do buy them will do as we do in an Atom or Radical, accept it's limitations and treat it for what it is - bloody great enormous fun. Things called waterproofs, you know - like bikers wear? - will do an admirable job should the weather turn bad 
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AndrewD
4,321 posts
153 months
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VeeUUowner said: last thing you would want to do is let the back step out on a radical and loose it where this has the ability to be fast and safe then drive it back home and put it in the garage Eh? Have you actually ever driven a radical?
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nicedude1976
2,265 posts
89 months
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I dont mind an Elise/Exige but this is too little body for too much money. I would rather have an Atom or Ultima. Mind you, I havent driven either.
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dinkel
21,040 posts
127 months
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And what if this Lotus would embarrass the bigger sportscars?
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KUB3
1,015 posts
77 months
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goater said: Very interesting!
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timski
8 posts
69 months
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Darth had a point when he mentioned the atom - the 300 s/charged golden ticket to god seems to be good value at £40k'ish with a power to weight ratio of 600 BHP, to spank the lingere off most, including an Enzo for god's sake! Gimme one!
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brian111s
5 posts
74 months
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dinkel said: And what if this Lotus would embarrass the bigger sportscars? i agree !! it might... next, don't like, don't buy (any left?)
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Aero8
295 posts
153 months
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I can't help thinking back to 1999 when I was suckered into ordering a 340R off the back of a spec sheet, a year before it was released. When it appeared, it had gained 135kg!!, lost its fully adjustable track suspension and was basically an undeveloped pain in the butt. Never again will I listen to Lotus hype.
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Phil-CH
1,124 posts
133 months
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