Refurbishment of my Maserati Mexico
Discussion
I've been looking for replacement side-marker indicators as the originals which had a polished alloy bezel had deteriorated after 40 years of Italian sunshine (on the right).
The replacement ones which have been re-made have a galv-steel bezel (the one in the middle) look fine from a distance but loose a little on the bling front compared to the originals. I have been lucky to pick us some new-old-stock Carrello ones which have the alloy bezels and they will look fantastic even though the lens profile is very slightly different to the originals (on the left).
Oh and do you like the replacement 'Mexico' script which was custom made by the factory via Chris McNabb of Bill McGrath Ltd
Paul
The replacement ones which have been re-made have a galv-steel bezel (the one in the middle) look fine from a distance but loose a little on the bling front compared to the originals. I have been lucky to pick us some new-old-stock Carrello ones which have the alloy bezels and they will look fantastic even though the lens profile is very slightly different to the originals (on the left).
Oh and do you like the replacement 'Mexico' script which was custom made by the factory via Chris McNabb of Bill McGrath Ltd
Paul
Just been looking through my photo's of Stanford Hall from last week to try and find a picture of the back of the Mexico that was there. Fabulous car but I nearly sliced my shin on one of the exhaust pipes. Classic Maserati tend to have unusual tail pipes but I've never seen any like these before. Are they original, what are yours like?
That's a nice looking car Roger but those exhaust extensions look a little... extended!
Those are the standard location for the exhausts but they should have a nice round plain end. The rear exhaust section on mine isn't standard so i'll be looking to get a new custom stainless unit made up
Mine are swept to the left of the rear but would still skin your shins...
Paul
Those are the standard location for the exhausts but they should have a nice round plain end. The rear exhaust section on mine isn't standard so i'll be looking to get a new custom stainless unit made up
Mine are swept to the left of the rear but would still skin your shins...
Paul
Well, my car left home today to rebuild brakes, exhaust... then, we will try to restart the V8 properly. I found my exhaust system and the brake parts at Maserati Source shop on eBay.
Very interesting comparison with the Jensen Mk1. I never thought before, but the early Jensen were also built by Vignale in Italy.
If you find other parts interchange, let me know !
Very interesting comparison with the Jensen Mk1. I never thought before, but the early Jensen were also built by Vignale in Italy.
If you find other parts interchange, let me know !
Edited by d.wilde on Monday 11th June 20:58
Nice to see it outside Charles, and i must say i love your garage, beautiful.
Just looking at the pictures of your car, it has the later type of external door handles unlike the earlier car which shares the Jensen handle.
Thanks for the tips on the brakes and exhaust parts. I'll be doing a full re-furb of the brakes including getting the master cylinder seals replaced, both the brake and clutch units look a little damp behind the pedals!
Cheers
Paul
Just looking at the pictures of your car, it has the later type of external door handles unlike the earlier car which shares the Jensen handle.
Thanks for the tips on the brakes and exhaust parts. I'll be doing a full re-furb of the brakes including getting the master cylinder seals replaced, both the brake and clutch units look a little damp behind the pedals!
Cheers
Paul
The door handles are not original. I found a "Carrozzeria Campana Modena" sticker with color reference under the gas cap. I have no bills but I think that the car was body restored with new door panels at the same time than the mechanical in the seventies. It's a Mexico from the first serie. Campagnolo wheels were ordered by the first owner.
Edited by d.wilde on Monday 11th June 21:42
Edited by d.wilde on Monday 11th June 21:43
d.wilde said:
The door handles are not original. I found a "Carrozzeria Campana Modena" sticker with color reference under the gas cap. I have no bills but I think that the car was body restored with new door panels at the same time than the mechanical in the seventies. It's a Mexico from the first serie. Campagnolo wheels were ordered by the first owner.
Charles,Edited by d.wilde on Monday 11th June 21:42
Edited by d.wilde on Monday 11th June 21:43
as The Surveyor outlined, it makes sense, Carrozzeria Campana is still today the official Maserati body shop, your car can either have been resprayed at some point or during a quality control the doors may have been replaced as Campana also manage the body spares warehouse on behalf of the factory.
The founder passed away a few months ago, but someone there should be able to help, they'll happily give you a hand on your research.
Enrico
I know it, but the doors don't be back in original form. The work is well done, the door handles come from Lancia Fulvia or Flavia berlina from the second generation.
The car is still waiting for new brakes. Some troubles with the air valve from the Girling servo. Any tips to locate this part ?
The car is still waiting for new brakes. Some troubles with the air valve from the Girling servo. Any tips to locate this part ?
Hi,
I am Jensen Interceptor MK1 owner, and newbie on this forum. Like to add my comments about Mexico and Interceptor parts availability.
Actually, there is quite lot of shared parts between early Mk1 Interceptor and Mexico.
Some remarkable stuff:
Bumpers and overriders.
Door furniture (ashtrays, handles, armrest, vent window handles, lock knob bezels, round covers for manual window etc, etc, etc). General layout of door card is also identical.
B-post brightwork.
Front turning light assemblies (same Alfa GT)
Bonnet locks
Recaro front seats (same some Lancia, and some other cars)
Door outer handles (and same for Tatra 613!!!)
Instruments (Speedo, tachometer, clocks etc)
Lucas toggle switches (quite rare, found only on Interceptor MK1 and Mexico, and little bit different on Alfa GT)
Dashboard air vents
Handbrake lever
Round fender turning lights is same like Lada 1200-1300 and GAZ-24 Volga, still easily find NOS for cheap in former USSR.
Check here:
http://www.osta.ee/volga-voi-lada-suunatuled-17450...
Door red lights is also Lada.
http://www.osta.ee/en/lada-2103-uksetuled-20042877...
I am Jensen Interceptor MK1 owner, and newbie on this forum. Like to add my comments about Mexico and Interceptor parts availability.
Actually, there is quite lot of shared parts between early Mk1 Interceptor and Mexico.
Some remarkable stuff:
Bumpers and overriders.
Door furniture (ashtrays, handles, armrest, vent window handles, lock knob bezels, round covers for manual window etc, etc, etc). General layout of door card is also identical.
B-post brightwork.
Front turning light assemblies (same Alfa GT)
Bonnet locks
Recaro front seats (same some Lancia, and some other cars)
Door outer handles (and same for Tatra 613!!!)
Instruments (Speedo, tachometer, clocks etc)
Lucas toggle switches (quite rare, found only on Interceptor MK1 and Mexico, and little bit different on Alfa GT)
Dashboard air vents
Handbrake lever
Round fender turning lights is same like Lada 1200-1300 and GAZ-24 Volga, still easily find NOS for cheap in former USSR.
Check here:
http://www.osta.ee/volga-voi-lada-suunatuled-17450...
Door red lights is also Lada.
http://www.osta.ee/en/lada-2103-uksetuled-20042877...
denis23 said:
Hi,
I am Jensen Interceptor MK1 owner, and newbie on this forum. Like to add my comments about Mexico and Interceptor parts availability.
Actually, there is quite lot of shared parts between early Mk1 Interceptor and Mexico.
Some remarkable stuff:
Bumpers and overriders.
Door furniture (ashtrays, handles, armrest, vent window handles, lock knob bezels, round covers for manual window etc, etc, etc). General layout of door card is also identical.
B-post brightwork.
Front turning light assemblies (same Alfa GT)
Bonnet locks
Recaro front seats (same some Lancia, and some other cars)
Door outer handles (and same for Tatra 613!!!)
Instruments (Speedo, tachometer, clocks etc)
Lucas toggle switches (quite rare, found only on Interceptor MK1 and Mexico, and little bit different on Alfa GT)
Dashboard air vents
Handbrake lever
Round fender turning lights is same like Lada 1200-1300 and GAZ-24 Volga, still easily find NOS for cheap in former USSR.
Check here:
http://www.osta.ee/volga-voi-lada-suunatuled-17450...
Door red lights is also Lada.
http://www.osta.ee/en/lada-2103-uksetuled-20042877...
Your observations are generally spot-on DenisI am Jensen Interceptor MK1 owner, and newbie on this forum. Like to add my comments about Mexico and Interceptor parts availability.
Actually, there is quite lot of shared parts between early Mk1 Interceptor and Mexico.
Some remarkable stuff:
Bumpers and overriders.
Door furniture (ashtrays, handles, armrest, vent window handles, lock knob bezels, round covers for manual window etc, etc, etc). General layout of door card is also identical.
B-post brightwork.
Front turning light assemblies (same Alfa GT)
Bonnet locks
Recaro front seats (same some Lancia, and some other cars)
Door outer handles (and same for Tatra 613!!!)
Instruments (Speedo, tachometer, clocks etc)
Lucas toggle switches (quite rare, found only on Interceptor MK1 and Mexico, and little bit different on Alfa GT)
Dashboard air vents
Handbrake lever
Round fender turning lights is same like Lada 1200-1300 and GAZ-24 Volga, still easily find NOS for cheap in former USSR.
Check here:
http://www.osta.ee/volga-voi-lada-suunatuled-17450...
Door red lights is also Lada.
http://www.osta.ee/en/lada-2103-uksetuled-20042877...
There are loads of the internal details which are shared including the door furniture as you say. The Mexico instruments have the Maserati Trident on the face so whilst they may be the same mechanism, they wouldn't be a straight swap. Those Lucas toggle switches are the same though.
Yes, same air vent and seat frames too, but the Mexico seats are trimmed differently, I'm not sure on the bonnet locks but do know the bumpers are not interchangeable. The overriders do look the same though but the blades profile is different on the ones I've seen. Same rear numberplate light as I've indicated before and yes, you're spot-on with the front side repeater, that Lada one is perfect and I wish I'd known that before buying some in the uk for a small fortune.....
That Lada door light is different to the Mexico one. Maserati used a Lucas unit which is shared with some Ferrari's and again seam to cost a bloody fortune. has a nice projecting chrome bezel.
It's good to know that there are alternatives for these beautiful cars and given the common Vignale design and production, the shared stuff shouldn't be a surprise. Both great cars
cheers Paul
Edited by The Surveyor on Monday 23 July 21:14
Well, Paul,
lets face the truth - with barely over 1000 Jensen Interceptor Mk1 and less than 500 Maserati Mexico during 7 years, lion share of its components should be shared with some mass-production vehicles.
Offcourse, today this parts presented as "Ferrari" or "Maserati" original parts, but actually, if you want you can source it at much affordable rate. Some of great margues enthusiasts dont do it, some does.
good example is this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MASERATI-MEXICO-DOOR-HANDL...
Thats interesting, will anybody pay any money for old and greasy Interceptor door handles;)))
Not speak about the Tatra which had the same handles;)
I have 4 or 5 pcs of them in the shed;)
If door lights is this:
http://www.400gt.com/photos/misc/11lucas.jpg
...Then its shared with Interceptor too. It came also from BMC or something like that.
And last but not least - very early Interceptors Mk1 (done by Vignale and first UK-made done from italian parts) had much more similarities with italian cars, than later cars. For example seats is different on the Vignale Mk1 and later Mk1 cars.
With Lada is everything simple - as Lada 1200 it was Fiat 124, and Lada 1500 was very similar to Fiat 125, it has lot common parts with the Ferraris, Dinos, Maseratis, Lancias, Alfas etc of the period.
lets face the truth - with barely over 1000 Jensen Interceptor Mk1 and less than 500 Maserati Mexico during 7 years, lion share of its components should be shared with some mass-production vehicles.
Offcourse, today this parts presented as "Ferrari" or "Maserati" original parts, but actually, if you want you can source it at much affordable rate. Some of great margues enthusiasts dont do it, some does.
good example is this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MASERATI-MEXICO-DOOR-HANDL...
Thats interesting, will anybody pay any money for old and greasy Interceptor door handles;)))
Not speak about the Tatra which had the same handles;)
I have 4 or 5 pcs of them in the shed;)
If door lights is this:
http://www.400gt.com/photos/misc/11lucas.jpg
...Then its shared with Interceptor too. It came also from BMC or something like that.
And last but not least - very early Interceptors Mk1 (done by Vignale and first UK-made done from italian parts) had much more similarities with italian cars, than later cars. For example seats is different on the Vignale Mk1 and later Mk1 cars.
With Lada is everything simple - as Lada 1200 it was Fiat 124, and Lada 1500 was very similar to Fiat 125, it has lot common parts with the Ferraris, Dinos, Maseratis, Lancias, Alfas etc of the period.
Edited by denis23 on Monday 23 July 22:20
Edited by denis23 on Monday 23 July 22:33
denis23 said:
Yes, those are the ones Denis.A few sets have cropped up on eBay but rise to silly money but if you know where they can be bought new economically, I'd be delighted to know. Mine are serviceable but new would be better.....
Thanks
Paul
Do you need glasses or whole assembly?
If glasses only, I can give 2 pcs for free, with small cracks, but better than nothing.
If whole light - try this guys:
http://www.jensenparts.co.uk/
Expect may be some 2X20 pounds for 2 pcs + VAT
If glasses only, I can give 2 pcs for free, with small cracks, but better than nothing.
If whole light - try this guys:
http://www.jensenparts.co.uk/
Expect may be some 2X20 pounds for 2 pcs + VAT
Edited by denis23 on Monday 23 July 22:40
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